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Title: Need a rant
Post by: GTI_UK on November 27, 2012, 08:33:48 am
Not sure what this is going to achieve but might make me feel a bit better...

Why on earth are headlights designed in a way that anyone old enough to own a car has too big hands/ fingers to change a bulb?!

Last night I was trying to change the bulb on my Xenon headlights and some how managed to drop the indicator bulb inside the light.

I'm thinking small pipe on a vacuum or some sort of flexible magnet? Failing both of these will have to be a bumper off job.... Grrrr!!

Any advice welcome
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on November 27, 2012, 08:57:35 am
We've got some up scaling H7 bulbs for the rally boys at the office great I thought £30 I'll stick em in.


I sh1t u not its a bumper off job just to fit them in a corsa van..
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: phil1975 on November 27, 2012, 09:07:27 am
Rant away thats what we're here for :happy2:

Feeling your pain, had to change a headlight bulb in the works van the other night, didn't matter that it was dark because there was no room to see anything anyway, it was all done by touch!! and the grazing of knuckles :fighting:
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: GTI_UK on November 27, 2012, 09:56:19 am
I remember on my S2000 the manual actually showed changing a bulb meant jacking the car up, removing the wheel, the wheel arch liner to get to the back of the light. Unless ofcourse you have hands of a 1 year old...

Has anyone managed to drop an indicator bulb and then get it without having to remove the headlight?
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: RobboGTI on November 27, 2012, 11:01:18 am
I done it with a sidelight bulb. Just forced a folded long piece of duct tape inside the headlight, it stuck to the bulb easily and I just slowly pulled it out again
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: rich83 on November 27, 2012, 11:03:24 am
It can be done (i dont have small hands) but you need to intimately know the inside of the headlight unit so you can do it blind.

Alternatively get some xenons... mine have been going the best part of 3/4 years and are still going strong.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: GTI_UK on November 27, 2012, 11:41:05 am
I may try the duck take thing but it's such an akward part to get to!!


I have xenons!! it's the indicator bulb that dropped in  :sad1:

... I foolishly fitted the (brand new) xenon headlights without the bulbs (as the bulbs aren't the 'standard indicator' types) thinking I can buy and fit them later. Regretting that decision!! Fiddly, difficult to get to and a million wires in the way!!  :fighting:

I think I'm going to try:
1) small pipe taped to a vacuum
2) telescopic magnet/ tape on a coat hanger
3) remove light - really hoping I don't get down this far...  :sick:
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: apples12 on November 27, 2012, 01:33:40 pm
Remove the light...
I did this on my xenon lights too except with the sidelight bulb.right pain to get out with a pair of tweezers.

Good luck! :smiley:
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: Luka on November 27, 2012, 02:10:46 pm
I've done the same. My orange lense inside the light also popped out so when the indicator was on it was just flashing white. Managed to get the headlight out without taking the bumper off, access through the washer jet/bumper covers. Pulling the orange lense back in place was a nightmare though!
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: rich83 on November 27, 2012, 02:13:12 pm
I may try the duck take thing but it's such an akward part to get to!!


I have xenons!! it's the indicator bulb that dropped in  :sad1:

... I foolishly fitted the (brand new) xenon headlights without the bulbs (as the bulbs aren't the 'standard indicator' types) thinking I can buy and fit them later. Regretting that decision!! Fiddly, difficult to get to and a million wires in the way!!  :fighting:

I think I'm going to try:
1) small pipe taped to a vacuum
2) telescopic magnet/ tape on a coat hanger
3) remove light - really hoping I don't get down this far...  :sick:


Ahh.. yeah they are a ball ache. I would Bumper off and take all the lights out and change all the bulbs all at the same time.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: MC71 on November 27, 2012, 02:21:18 pm
Remove the light...
I did this on my xenon lights too except with the sidelight bulb.right pain to get out with a pair of tweezers.

Good luck! :smiley:

Yeap, remove the light IMO. May seem like a lot of work but its quicker than dropping a bulb then trying to retrieve it. Great vid on YouTube (somewhere) about headlight swap on a Mk5 and works a treat. Nice you've done it once, or twice, its no biggy!

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: GTI_UK on November 27, 2012, 03:05:24 pm
I know whats involved in the light out job - have done it twice now but a the cold wet nights draw in, I was hoping it would be a bit of fiddling with the buld rather than the whole lamp off job... of well...
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: stealthwolf on November 27, 2012, 03:27:51 pm
I feel your pain. Recently, my dipped beams failed, so I swapped them with the mains. When it came to replacing the mains, the clip holding the bulb fell out. Ended up being sorted by Alex and even then it took a few goes. A few months down the line and the dipped beam on one side failed, so I tried to replace it. Except it fell down the engine bay on to the engine bay cover. I had to wait until the engine had adequately cooled down and then fished for the bulb. Not fun.
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: 56OctyVRS on November 27, 2012, 04:44:20 pm
It makes me wonder why VW didnt make the headlight like on my Octavia. I just unscrew a nut, pull a lever and the headlight unit comes out. Makes it a lot easier to change bulbs.
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: stealthwolf on November 27, 2012, 05:20:51 pm
To be fair, the halogen dipped ones are easy. Unscrew the cover off the back of the headlamp, twist to unlock the holder for the bulb, remove, pop out bulb and replace, place holder back in and twist, screw on headlamp cover. The main and side lights should have been dealt with in a similar fashion IMO.
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: sub39h on November 27, 2012, 06:03:04 pm
I remember on my S2000 the manual actually showed changing a bulb meant jacking the car up, removing the wheel, the wheel arch liner to get to the back of the light. Unless ofcourse you have hands of a 1 year old...

That's the procedure for the Mk2 SLK!
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: SRC on November 27, 2012, 07:27:42 pm
I remember on my S2000 the manual actually showed changing a bulb meant jacking the car up, removing the wheel, the wheel arch liner to get to the back of the light. Unless ofcourse you have hands of a 1 year old...

That's the procedure for the Mk2 SLK!

and (IIRC) the Renault Megane, Ford Ka and plenty of others.  I just tell myself that it's good training for my next job - gynaecologist.
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: trs888 on November 27, 2012, 07:51:09 pm
hmm you have learned a very painful and annoying lesson here.

ive done it repeatedly with both indicator and side light bulbs. the best way to do it is take headlight off car, hold it above your head and shake it around a little and the bulb will slide out. i learned that after many painstaiking and frustrating hours of trying to remove them. i even managed to use the bendy claw tool to push the amber reflector loose from the light, and the sidelight bulb got in front of that. i could see it at the front of the headlight. it bugged the crap out of me for a couple of months until i decided to remove the bumper and headlight.

good luck pal, headlight removal gets my vote! its only a few screws!
Title: Re: Need a rant
Post by: GTI_UK on November 29, 2012, 08:29:04 am
I was thinking of trying that claw pick up tool... But I'm glad I didn't now. I know take the lights off, refitting the bulbs and replacing the lights will take me all of an hour. But my point is more that changing a bulb should be a 1 minute job like in the old days... Cars seem to have gone backwards on this.