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Title: boot lid rattling
Post by: eltel on November 29, 2012, 08:57:16 am
Hi all
My boot seems to have some play, i only noticed it the other day when i went over a speed bump it sounded like it was'nt closed i pulled over to shut it but it was closed but there is some slight play in it now its niggling me can anyone tell me how to adjust it?

Cheers guys
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: MC71 on November 29, 2012, 09:30:40 am
I'd add the boot pop mod' to your car. Not only is it very cool but also (the main point for you) it adds much larger Pump Stops (these are also sprung) which will more than take up any play in the boot as they are adjustable. You could always just get the stops alone, swap them out and job done, takes about 2 minutes.

Boot Pop Kit Part Numbers

2x Skoda Fabia Gas Struts                    6Y0 827 550 C      £35.98 inc Vat for the pair
2x Scirocco (sprung) Pump stops          1K8 827 761 D.     £9.89 inc Vat for the pair. Bits that you need most!
2x Seat Leon Ball pins                           1J6 827 439 A     £11.97 inc Vat for the pair.

A "How to" guide on fitting the Boot Pop Kit (includes fitting bump stops).......

http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edoc/MK5RearHatchPop.pdf

If you go for the Boot Pop it will need coding via VCDS afterwards to allow the mod' to work.

Hope this helps  :happy2:

In case you've not seen it.......

Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: gigolo456 on November 29, 2012, 10:17:35 am
wow, I WANT, I WANT, do all of those 3 part numbers fit a Golf GTi??

Cheers
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 29, 2012, 10:32:43 am
That is cool, in lieu of a proper remote hatch.

Can you get away with just fitting the Scirocco (sprung) bump stops?  Or are our gas struts just too weak.

Just grabbed a pair of the gas struts off ebay for a tenner; hope that's the right part# LOL
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: JStav on November 29, 2012, 10:39:55 am
I'd add the boot pop mod' to your car. Not only is it very cool but also (the main point for you) it adds much larger Pump Stops (these are also sprung) which will more than take up any play in the boot as they are adjustable. You could always just get the stops alone, swap them out and job done, takes about 2 minutes.

Boot Pop Kit Part Numbers

2x Skoda Fabia Gas Struts                    6Y0 827 550 C      £35.98 inc Vat for the pair
2x Scirocco (sprung) Pump stops          1K0 827 761 D.     £9.89 inc Vat for the pair. Bits that you need most!
2x Seat Leon Ball pins                           1J6 827 439 A     £11.97 inc Vat for the pair.

A "How to" guide on fitting the Boot Pop Kit (includes fitting bump stops).......

http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edoc/MK5RearHatchPop.pdf

If you go for the Boot Pop it will need coding via VCDS afterwards to allow the mod' to work.

Hope this helps  :happy2:

In case you've not seen it.......



Without wanting to sound too stupid, can you get all of these parts at VW or do you have to go to the respective garages?  :ashamed:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 29, 2012, 10:45:06 am
Without wanting to sound too stupid, can you get all of these parts at VW or do you have to go to the respective garages?  :ashamed:

In my experience, it depends on the garage, some will be arsey and say they can't order them in... others will have them in stock or order them no probs.

I'm about to find out which from my local VW garage!
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on November 29, 2012, 10:46:00 am
I found on my last mk5 the rattling went once I took the boot pop kit off and put standard back on.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 29, 2012, 10:47:12 am
I found on my last mk5 the rattling went once I took the boot pop kit off and put standard back on.

HAHA, nice.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 29, 2012, 10:47:58 am
This ECS tuning video, is a great addition to the PDF above:
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Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: eltel on November 29, 2012, 12:22:26 pm
Many thanks guys :notworthy:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: MC71 on November 29, 2012, 12:59:47 pm
wow, I WANT, I WANT, do all of those 3 part numbers fit a Golf GTi??

Cheers


Yes, no problem at all. It's a comman mod for the Mk5 golf.   :happy2:

That is cool, in lieu of a proper remote hatch.

Can you get away with just fitting the Scirocco (sprung) bump stops?  Or are our gas struts just too weak.

Just grabbed a pair of the gas struts off ebay for a tenner; hope that's the right part# LOL

I guarantee its its right part number as I took the part number from my invoice.  :happy2:

Oh and yes you can just fit the Bump stops, no problem. The Fabia Struts are a lot stiffer than the Golf ones and once they are on their way they will lift the boot easily but they do need that extra bit of help and that's where the Bump Stops come in. They help with the initial "push" of the boot when you press the key fob.

 :drinking:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: gigolo456 on November 29, 2012, 01:44:10 pm
so for c.£57.00 (and some know-how) this would work fine on my GTi??

Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on November 29, 2012, 02:18:11 pm
so for c.£57.00 (and some know-how) this would work fine on my GTi??

Yes, although it doesn't work so well in winter when cold.

If your local dealer is struggling to get you all parts, then there's a Skoda dealer on ebay I used to get all the bits.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: gigolo456 on November 29, 2012, 02:20:15 pm
cheers, can i assume that it still works fine manually in the Winter?
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on November 29, 2012, 02:31:10 pm
Yeh it still works as normal. On a cold day it'll pop up an inch or so when pressed with the fob, and you have to just give it a gentle nudge underneath for it to fly up.

Otherwise use it manually no problem.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: chrisr763 on November 29, 2012, 03:03:42 pm
so for c.£57.00 (and some know-how) this would work fine on my GTi??

Yes, although it doesn't work so well in winter when cold.

If your local dealer is struggling to get you all parts, then there's a Skoda dealer on ebay I used to get all the bits.

Any links to the dealer?
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on November 29, 2012, 03:40:22 pm
Any links to the dealer?

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Skoda-Parts-Shop?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

They got me the parts last year, used them last week for other stuff including two new Scirocco bumps. You'll have to give them the part numbers and quantities as they will order them in (think they have the struts as a listing).

Handy if your local dealers can't help.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: MC71 on November 29, 2012, 03:53:26 pm
^^^^ excellent stuff. I was looking for a place to order Skoda parts through in the past. Nice one! Will bookmark them for the future.

CHRISR763, thank that man!  :happy2:

Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: chrisr763 on November 29, 2012, 03:58:33 pm
Any links to the dealer?

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Skoda-Parts-Shop?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

They got me the parts last year, used them last week for other stuff including two new Scirocco bumps. You'll have to give them the part numbers and quantities as they will order them in (think they have the struts as a listing).

Handy if your local dealers can't help.

Boom thank you!  :happy2: I Have sent the shop an email  :party:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on November 29, 2012, 04:03:55 pm
Boom thank you!  :happy2: I Have send the shop an email  :party:

The parts manager is Jonathan DOT Gadsby AT rainworthskoda DOT co DOT uk - it might help you get there quicker.

I also use David@SERE motors in NI but sometimes he can't get stuff. Both have been excellent in the past.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: chrisr763 on November 29, 2012, 05:29:02 pm
Boom thank you!  :happy2: I Have send the shop an email  :party:

The parts manager is Jonathan DOT Gadsby AT rainworthskoda DOT co DOT uk - it might help you get there quicker.

I also use David@SERE motors in NI but sometimes he can't get stuff. Both have been excellent in the past.

Thanks, they have got back to me already  :grin: They said ' The scirocco bits im unsure about because that part number does not come up anywhere on the catalogue so i dont think it is correct could you please double check the part number or tell me what they are and where they fit so i can try and find the number myself'

 :P
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on November 29, 2012, 05:43:04 pm
Just looked and MC71 got a digit wrong unfortunately, it is 1K8827761D for the Scirocco bumps
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: MC71 on November 29, 2012, 06:09:01 pm
^^^^   :ashamed:

Well spotted, your dead right. Thanks for that, I will amend me first post.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 29, 2012, 06:53:09 pm
Cheers for the excellent info and help; I've contacted them too, so hopefully they'll put some on ebay soon.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on November 29, 2012, 08:06:54 pm
Cheers for the excellent info and help; I've contacted them too, so hopefully they'll put some on ebay soon.

They've never listed anything on ebay I've asked for to order in, just sent Paypal payment (as goods thus you're protected if that's a concern). This includes last week when I sent £188 and it all came three days later.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: scopes on November 29, 2012, 09:16:54 pm
GROUP BUY !   ANYONE?

 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 29, 2012, 10:05:34 pm
Cheers for the excellent info and help; I've contacted them too, so hopefully they'll put some on ebay soon.

They've never listed anything on ebay I've asked for to order in, just sent Paypal payment (as goods thus you're protected if that's a concern). This includes last week when I sent £188 and it all came three days later.

Ah right, no worries, will just wait until they get back then.  Cheers.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 29, 2012, 10:06:19 pm
GROUP BUY !   ANYONE?

 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

I would do, but I've already grabbed some of the struts from fleabay.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: JStav on November 30, 2012, 09:40:26 am
Managed to get the seat ball pins and the scirocco stops from VW but no luck with the gas struts.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: JStav on November 30, 2012, 10:25:09 am
If anyone is trying to get the struts.

http://www.theskodashop.co.uk/product/Boot_Strut_%28Hatchback_Fabia_00%3E07%29_6Y0827550C

:)  Good price!

10 quid delivery though the robbing ***&%£$!s!
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 30, 2012, 01:35:37 pm
If anyone is trying to get the struts.

http://www.theskodashop.co.uk/product/Boot_Strut_%28Hatchback_Fabia_00%3E07%29_6Y0827550C

:)  Good price!

10 quid delivery though the robbing ***&%£$!s!

Shame about the delivery, price is v.good; are they brand new?
I paid £15 delivered for 2nd hand.  So £25 isn't excessive really - shame they don't do the others part then it would be a win, win.

I'm grabbing the other bits off that guy ebay, seems friendly, cheers everyone.  :happy2:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: JStav on November 30, 2012, 03:47:02 pm
If anyone is trying to get the struts.

http://www.theskodashop.co.uk/product/Boot_Strut_%28Hatchback_Fabia_00%3E07%29_6Y0827550C

:)  Good price!

10 quid delivery though the robbing ***&%£$!s!

Shame about the delivery, price is v.good; are they brand new?
I paid £15 delivered for 2nd hand.  So £25 isn't excessive really - shame they don't do the others part then it would be a win, win.

I'm grabbing the other bits off that guy ebay, seems friendly, cheers everyone.  :happy2:

Yeah they're brand new.  Worked out at 39 quid for them delivered.  I initially posted before I knew of the delivery charge then edited once I'd gone through to the checkout  :laugh:  They've been dispatched today though and I'm getting the other parts on Tuesday.

Looks like there's going to be a few more golfs driving about with fancy boot openings!
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on November 30, 2012, 03:59:34 pm
lol, yeah, haha... hope it works on in the cold weather, some peeps say other wise... we'll see.

Seems that ebay guy does the struts too, not sure how much though probably close to that on the first page.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on November 30, 2012, 04:36:07 pm
If anyone is trying to get the struts.

http://www.theskodashop.co.uk/product/Boot_Strut_%28Hatchback_Fabia_00%3E07%29_6Y0827550C

:)  Good price!

10 quid delivery though the robbing ***&%£$!s!

Shame about the delivery, price is v.good; are they brand new?
I paid £15 delivered for 2nd hand.  So £25 isn't excessive really - shame they don't do the others part then it would be a win, win.

I'm grabbing the other bits off that guy ebay, seems friendly, cheers everyone.  :happy2:

Yeah they're brand new.  Worked out at 39 quid for them delivered.  I initially posted before I knew of the delivery charge then edited once I'd gone through to the checkout  :laugh:  They've been dispatched today though and I'm getting the other parts on Tuesday.

Looks like there's going to be a few more golfs driving about with fancy boot openings!

Yes it has been added to my mod to do list :happy2:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: MC71 on November 30, 2012, 06:53:39 pm
I've contacted a couple of peeps through eBay and even tried my local VW main dealer about a discount for a GB and "NO" was the answer so I may get some sets made up (consisting of the 3 parts needed) and sell them through the "For Sale" section as there seems like there may be more interest.



Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on November 30, 2012, 07:13:20 pm
I've contacted a couple of peeps through eBay and even tried my local VW main dealer about a discount for a GB and "NO" was the answer so I may get some sets made up (consisting of the 3 parts needed) and sell them through the "For Sale" section as there seems like there may be more interest.





I would be up for that. Let me know if you go for it :happy2:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on December 08, 2012, 03:26:28 pm
Did my boot pop today, easy job... only thing was my VCDS required a different change than the one specified by ECS, mine was in Byte 2 of the same Module.

Also, I had to click mine 5 tabs out for it to pop properly.. which requires more of a thunk to close, but still OK... perhaps the cold weather has something to do with it?
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: MC71 on December 08, 2012, 03:40:09 pm
^^^^ 5 is a few too many and probably too much pressure on the lock. You'll find it won't open as much at the moment due to the cold temps but 2 or 3 stops should be more than enough to allow the boot to pop.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on December 08, 2012, 03:55:20 pm
^^^^ 5 is a few too many and probably too much pressure on the lock. You'll find it won't open as much at the moment due to the cold temps but 2 or 3 stops should be more than enough to allow the boot to pop.

 :happy2:

Cheers, yeah it's very intermitment... are there better bump stops we can get?
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: MC71 on December 08, 2012, 04:42:18 pm
Cheers, yeah it's very intermitment... are there better bump stops we can get?

Not that I'm aware of. The new Scirocco Bump Stops you have will be fine. The springs inside those Pump Stops (which you don't get in Golf OEM ones) and the pressure of the struts is more than enough to lift the boot lid.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on December 08, 2012, 04:51:07 pm
Cheers, yeah it's very intermitment... are there better bump stops we can get?

Not that I'm aware of. The new Scirocco Bump Stops you have will be fine. The springs inside those Pump Stops (which you don't get in Golf OEM ones) and the pressure of the struts is more than enough to lift the boot lid.

 :happy2:


Except it doesn't every time, because err its cold... that's no excuse! lol  I want it to work everytime. :happy2:

Now what's VAG and got a big boot?  Audi Q7 bump stops?
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: skard on December 08, 2012, 05:14:45 pm
It'll be the gas in the struts to blame in the cold, rather than bumpstops.

You could get higher compression ones custom made but ut's going to be even harder to close the tailgate.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on December 08, 2012, 05:17:54 pm
It'll be the gas in the struts to blame in the cold, rather than bumpstops.

You could get higher compression ones custom made but ut's going to be even harder to close the tailgate.

Interesting, cheers...

I wonder why the skoda fabia gas struts are stonger than the golf ones?  i guess the scrirocco struts are the same as the golf...
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: andybon on December 08, 2012, 10:25:11 pm
Like the boot pop mod, Next to do on my list!

Is ther any way of fitting a switch inside the car to open the boot? Seen a switch on a Golf plus with the fuel flap and the boot lid on it and wandered if it was possible to do it.
Title: Re: boot lid rattling
Post by: zerolag on December 09, 2012, 06:58:35 am
using the drivers side unlock button also unlocks the boot on 2nd press i think... have mine to autolock above 10mph

tbh after doing the boot pop mod yesterday, i'd wait until the summer as it only works half the time 4 me in the cold.