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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: galaxie500 on November 29, 2012, 09:17:07 pm
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Anyone going to the event or watching on tv or even vaguely interested?
I'm intrigued - saw the build up programme and genuinely impressed by the big man's dedication and improvement. And I've always liked Barry McGuigan. A real boxer.
Gents?
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He'll get put on his arse hopefully.
Heavyweight boxing is a joke as it is, and this just adds to it.
Any no mark, just walks in with all the time in the world and is thrusted into a fight. It's all bullsh*t.
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As a very keen boxer myself i think hats off to the guy, fairplay. From complete novice to pro with no amateur experience is a tough ask.
tbh im a little surprised he's passed the assessment board, but i guess we haven't see all the footage, so they might be playing him down a little on the show to give him the best chance of winning against his opponent. Either way he'll be well matched to an anbd wont be pitted against someone who will destroy him.
I remember the first time I walked into the ring, and I was crapping myself. Even after 15 years of boxing im still nervous as hell before getting in the ring (Im now on the coaching side of things and find it even worse than when i boxed myself :laugh:). His first fight is as a professional, in front of a BIG crowd and is fully televised and he has ALOT to loose. You cant begrudge him that surely. All the best to him. Hope he does well.
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As he says ^^^^^^^
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Boxers are very much a different breed. To be a winner in boxing is easy to fake . Unless the bloke he's fighting is in his first fight too Flintoff will be down and out in 2 rounds
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Dont write him off yet. I think its fantastic and have been watching the show keenly. Im a bit disappointed that the 3rd show isnt on till next week, but i guess it will include a summary of what happens tomorrow.
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Am a big fan of Freddie! Really enjoy the programme and big respect for him for doing this. He's got the heart, I hope he has the ability.
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I have a vested professional, personal & boxing fan's interest. My buddy is the cameraman shooting the documentary programme for Sky along with a few good friends peripherally working on the show.
I have mixed feelings about this event. I am surprised the Boxing Board gave him a licence. Perhaps they thought misguidedly its good for the sport. I'm not sure it is good for a sport that's recently seen a brawl at a pre fight press conference ( Haye v Chisora) more trash talk from Haye last year about Klitchko before the Ukrainian soundly beat Haye and last weekend's sad 2nd retirement of the spent Ricky Hatton. It's all looking very tired and perhaps Boxing's deal makers and Sky Tv felt the Flintoff fight is meant to rejuvenate an ailing sport by restarting an ex cricketer's career. It might just work but is boxing becoming even more 'sideshow' like? I fear this fight relegates boxing in many people's minds to that of Tv entertainment, almost a reality show where overweight ex sportsmen and women become boxers and effectively fight for their lives. Is this what we want from boxing? I don't think so.....
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The fight is tonight - 30th November.
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Everyone portrays people differentley and is entitled to their opinions. After watching the documentary i am quite impressed with how his training has gone and what hes achieved. As above dont write the guy off its one of his lifetime ambitions and not just a tv stunt. Anyway im there tonight, got front row seats so looking forward to it. I done boxing for 10 years, my nose has seen better days from it but its what i enjoyed doing, same as freddy he enjoys it so lets see what happens. Not everyone wins everything in life but people have ambitions and this is one of his. He has a good right hook aswell.
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I have a vested professional, personal & boxing fan's interest. My buddy is the cameraman shooting the documentary programme for Sky along with a few good friends peripherally working on the show.
I have mixed feelings about this event. I am surprised the Boxing Board gave him a licence. Perhaps they thought misguidedly its good for the sport. I'm not sure it is good for a sport that's recently seen a brawl at a pre fight press conference ( Haye v Chisora) more trash talk from Haye last year about Klitchko before the Ukrainian soundly beat Haye and last weekend's sad 2nd retirement of the spent Ricky Hatton. It's all looking very tired and perhaps Boxing's deal makers and Sky Tv felt the Flintoff fight is meant to rejuvenate an ailing sport by restarting an ex cricketer's career. It might just work but is boxing becoming even more 'sideshow' like? I fear this fight relegates boxing in many people's minds to that of Tv entertainment, almost a reality show where overweight ex sportsmen and women become boxers and effectively fight for their lives. Is this what we want from boxing? I don't think so.....
I dont understand your first post if this is the reality.
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Is this fight live on telly ?
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Is this fight live on telly ?
Think it is on Boxnation pay per view channel on Sky.
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Hmmmm.
This is the paradox Deako. I love boxing, been a fan for many years but have been dismayed with certain aspects of it in recent times. Its always been commercial, sometimes flashy, often arrogant but very few boxers who enter the ring are lazy or uncommitted to what is a dangerous and brutal sport. If you're involved at any level as a boxer, you've done the training, the hours in the gym, the sweat and toil etc... Sadly, with so many entertainments available to the masses for little or no money - internet film downloads, computer games, DVD's etc, boxing promoters have to come up with stunts to sell tickets - such as the Haye v Chisora fiasco which was of course a Frank Warren concocted scam. It worked with many thousands attending Upton Park for the 'fight' and many others buying online subscriptions to Box Nation but also taking boxing so far down the sporting food chain it almost surpasses Celebrity Wrestling in its crassness. (Remember this ITV pile of dog poo>>)
I love it yet hate the path being trod.... a paradox indeed...
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I completely disagree with boxing... It should be banned in my opinion.
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I completely disagree with boxing... It should be banned in my opinion.
Don't ever watch WEC on 419 on sky then that's brutal!! I hope he does well even if he does not win, i just hope he puts in a respectable effort
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Well he did it. Proud of Freddie, think he did well. :happy2:
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Well done Freddie :congrats:
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Good on him how many rounds did he do ?
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He won......on points!
He got floored in the second, got up and worked hard, went forward and won 39-38 (close one)
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He won......on points!
He got floored in the second, got up and worked hard, went forward and won 39-38 (close one)
Commentary said it was more of a slip.
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8 tense minutes of 'boxing' and its over thank goodness.
Lets hope that's the end of Freddie's ambitions inside the ring, and boxing can move forward rather than relying on the publicity of a has-been cricketer. Freddie's lucky his American opponent was so unfit; his short left in the 2nd round had him down and a fitter man would have capitalised and finished the job.
Impressive training regime to lose the weight and remain strong, Freddie should continue his tv punditry and game show duties and enjoy his achievements.
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8 tense minutes of 'boxing' and its over thank goodness.
Lets hope that's the end of Freddie's ambitions inside the ring, and boxing can move forward rather than relying on the publicity of a has-been cricketer. Freddie's lucky his American opponent was so unfit; his short left in the 2nd round had him down and a fitter man would have capitalised and finished the job.
Impressive training regime to lose the weight and remain strong, Freddie should continue his tv punditry and game show duties and enjoy his achievements.
Why should he stop there? I think its a great achievement, and if he wants to continue, let him. He has come a very long way in 8 months and with more training, more bulk and strength i think he would do ok. If he wants the challenge, then i think it would be great.
However, from the start he did mention he only wanted the one fight.
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Cracking night, the crowd were amazing and the atmosphere to! Well done to freddy he done well no matter what some people may think! Like to see the gob sh*tes put the same amount of effort instead of just slating him, if people comment without seeing first hand what he's gone through to achieve this then they should back off and leave it be.
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Like watched this , he did look very determined , but he cannot throw a punch it was cringe worthy , as said if the other fighter would've had anything in him at all he would've got battered ..
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Ive not sen the fight yet, but id bet he'll have forgotten everything he was taught. Every guy i've coached and taken to their first bout has forgotten everything they have been taught before hand.
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It looked that way. He was just really eager to knock him down / out so got carried away .. Was amusing
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Deffo far to eager to finish his opponent.
He even admitted that it wasn't the most technical of fights - his right hand punches need a lot of work, but he does seem to have a fairly decent left jab.
Kudos to him for having the stones to get in the ring :happy2: