MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: scottm72 on November 30, 2012, 02:38:55 am
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this is MY OWN PERSONAL opinion of the rns-510-h or any letter I guess after the b version
don't get me wrong I like the 510 unit, way better than my previous standard 300 unit
but
-my cheap tom tom picks up better routes which the 510 just doesn't see, even major side routes sometimes
-the road curving up to say 300 metres is better on my tom tom
-with being low down as you say the 510 is not in your line of vision
-the radio navigation guide is not great
-it is not dab - I know there is one coming out now
-when you use the media button for cd player and eject the cd it starts playing music automatically from my phone via Bluetooth lol
-when you are listening to the radio and put a cd in it automatically goes to cd as it should - but - it misses the first couple of seconds of the disc whilst the unit changes from radio to cd player ?????????
-my traffic function does not work (seemingly subscription service )
-unit has very limited audio amendment features
-radio text is next to useless although I know that is down to the radio stations
-the 510 is veeeeery expensive
-the 3d nav viewer is very basic
-the audio outputs should be a bit higher than 20w per channel
-it should have a tv tuner for a two grand unit, man it should make coffee at two grand
seems like I hate the unit doesn't it lol
there are good points though
-it looks very oem
-it is good for integration for things like mfsw / mk6 camera etc
-the dvd player is superb quality screen
-the mk6 camera screen is also very good but that's more down to the £350 I shelled out for a mk6 camera
-and mmm, it lights up red like the other controls in the car
also it is very difficult to upgrade the audio on it due to the connectivity, most other after market units at a fraction of the price will let you do this, with the 510 still not letting you go over 50%-60% volume depending on type of music especially drum and base etc without distorting the quality, nobody is getting say 80% volume on any type of 510 unit without some major upgrading of the speakers, the oem speakers / tweeters etc cant handle it.
sure I will pick up a lot of flack from 510 lovers by this thread but so be it, the above comments are my own personal opinion and I do somewhat like the unit but if I didn't need it for my rear view camera and mfsw I would change it in the future whilst it still has re-sale value.
what is it vw charge for one of these things £2100 or so, obviously I didn't pay that but even so that's a crap load of money
biggest disappointment is the nav, on my £50 tom tom I have been using for years I can predict the oncoming curves on a country road and reduce my speed accordingly for blind corners driving into them, on my 510 it is way more difficult as it is nowhere near as detailed no matter even if you put it to it's maximum zoom of 150 yards, it just does not show enough detail.
so there is my opinion of the rns-510-h all singing all dancing multi function unit
let the opinions roll in
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Well it seems as though you have aired your opinion and you want people to start a fight with you regarding the RNS. :rolleye:
I couldn't give a monkeys. :happy2:
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Works all right for me, very impressed with it and the other bits attached to it.
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superb, Great spring to mind
I'm on my 3rd one :happy2:
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look when I started this thread I knew I would be hammered by about a 7 to 1 ratio and I AM happy with my system,
to be fair though the negative points I put on the first entry are pretty accurate and not exaggerated.
it is an impressive system and I love the integration, only reason I bought it tbh
I just wish the negative points I posted where not as bad as they are
I mean for example whilst listening to radio if you put a cd in it starts playing before the audio switches over from the radio meaning if it is the type of cd that starts very quickly you will miss the first couple of seconds of the track - now I am assuming that ALL the 510 units do this, either this or I have a fault with mine which I doubt.
ok it aint a big deal really but there are about 12 of these niggly things that could be put in the ( not a big deal category ) and they really shouldn't be there on the unit in the first place.
saying that would still like to hear peoples opinions and would also like to hear if ANY OF THE NEGATIVE POINTS I HAVE LISTED has been noticed by other people.
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I haven't used a CD in ages :signLOL:
Load your music onto an SD card or get rid of the ipod dock and get an MDI :happy2:
No matter what item you buy, it will have little flaws
Some of the minor problems you list can be switched off
The bluetooth playing when in media, that can be disabled in the set up menu
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I've only put two mods on my car. One was a forum sticker which has given me at least two more horses and the other was an RNS510 which is cracking bit of kit IMO. I've got a version B and it works flawlessly. I use a TomTom in the work's van which has great mapping but compared to other car manufacturers head unit/nav systems, I think the RNS510 is far superior. The system in my mate's Landrover Freelander is dreadful.
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My Mk5 GTI came with whatever unit it came with in 2005. I needed SatNav which would cover all of Europe because I was doing trips, so I replaced the VW unit with a Pioneer and then later an Alpine SatNav DVD Audio combo.
So, I have absolutely no experience of the 510. I've driven other cars with OEM units, especially Audi's, and much prefer mine because the touch screen flips up and is more in my peripheral vision while driving. But as a musician I tend to listen to music with too much focus and so it distracts me from driving. I never listen to the car radio either and never get bored driving, whatever the distance - 760 miles being my longest single session.
So I have no idea what a 510 can do but gather that it does a whole lot more than what VW supplied in mine in 2005. :happy2:
Well it seems as though you have aired your opinion and you want people to start a fight with you regarding the RNS. :rolleye:
I couldn't give a monkeys. :happy2:
....I don't think that Scott is looking for a fight or even an argument, Ian. He has a certain way of expressing himself which might sometimes suggest that (he and I started off 'fighting' hard when he first arrived on the forum but we both made the effort to understand each other and now often exchange friendly PMs). I think he is simply keen to share his honest opinions and hear and possibly learn from other folks here. :drinking:
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This would have been better posted as a review, rather than in the General section.
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This would have been better posted as a review, rather than in the General section.
....Except that Scott hasn't structured it like a review: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,438.0.html
Is there an Audio section on the site?
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But your satnav blocks the hazard warning switch robin............ ;-)
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This would have been better posted as a review, rather than in the General section.
....Except that Scott hasn't structured it like a review...
You're not wrong there.
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Andrew every comment that comes from you is always negative, every damn one of them, if you have a chip on your shoulder get it said on snip it :stupid:
nobody is slating the 510 here and some of you guys need to calm down a bit, my opinion on this thread in no way said this was a cap unit or anything like that, in fact it states I am still happy with the 510.
I have simply pointed out the negatives from this unit and then the positives, if you actually take the time to read the thread you will see this.
the points I made about the 510 are factual and not made up, I posted that the unit is very good at connectivity and a lot of other features are also good, but because I list some wanting areas on the unit people should not just read that bit and try to jump down the authors throat maybe because YOU have this unit and you will not be told in any way it shouldn't have the flaws it has.
ok, maybe should have been in the review section but it is where it is and aint causing any harm.
most of the negative points I made CANNOT be turned of in the menu section without effecting other parts of the unit like the Bluetooth,
and yes I still use cd's until I have the time to sort out the sd hd part of the system, but tell me this.
how can a unit that retails for over £2000 not play a cd from the start ?
why does the system start to play the disk before the audio switches over from radio ?
go on try it yourself.
this is a basic part of a cd player and has been overlooked unless I have a dodgy unit obviously.
red robin is right with saying that my comment on an item may not be laid out in a way that gives you a cuddle whilst you read it, but, this thread was to get peoples ideas on the 510 in general and my thread is polite / factual and informative.
if you are coming on here just to throw a rude opinion then please don't and leave it for people who would like to comment on their thoughts regarding their experience of this unit.
as for you Andrew parker why don't you stay away from my threads as everything that comes from you is dribble
I knew before I posted this thread that lovers of the 510 would be upset and my intention is never to upset people,
I even mentioned to rr that 510 users would not like any negative comments on this thread about their system, this was before posting the thread, ask him if you like, so was I opening myself up to flak - yep - but that's not a problem.
although I have only been on this site for 3 months I have commented / debated / learned and helped out with mostly all that will read this thread and you should know by now that I don't just post rubbish about a good item ( with the exception to andrewparker who is :stupid: ) did I mention that already !!!
so chill out guys and leave the comments to helpful ones please as we are all here to try and help each other, read the thread for what it is and if you have no constructive opinion then that's no problem, if 99 people love the system and 1 hates it that's also not a problem as this is the feedback I am looking for
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But your satnav blocks the hazard warning switch robin............ ;-)
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Andrew every comment that comes from you is always negative, every damn one of them, if you have a chip on your shoulder get it said on snip it :stupid:
Don't be a dick. I suggested that your post might have been better posted as a review. As far as I am aware there is nothing malicious in that suggestion. Robin commented that it wasn't written as a review and I agreed. My tone was purely due to not being aware of the "rules" regarding posting a review.
As for staying away from your threads, I have on several occasions posted helpful advice in relation to questions you have asked, so wind your neck in.
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this is MY OWN PERSONAL opinion of the rns-510-h or any letter I guess after the b version
don't get me wrong I like the 510 unit, way better than my previous standard 300 unit
but
-my cheap tom tom picks up better routes which the 510 just doesn't see, even major side routes sometimes
agreed
-the road curving up to say 300 metres is better on my tom tom
Agreed - especially the new ones
-with being low down as you say the 510 is not in your line of vision
Disagree - ALL fitted navs that would fit in the same space would be the same - so not specifically just the RNS unit
-the radio navigation guide is not great
Tend to agree - some of the wording is cr4p - Hull comes out as ool!
-it is not dab - I know there is one coming out now
Agreed, but not a dealbreaker
-when you use the media button for cd player and eject the cd it starts playing music automatically from my phone via Bluetooth lol
Why wouldn't it as it selects either radio or another connection automatically - a good idea really and better than silence
-when you are listening to the radio and put a cd in it automatically goes to cd as it should - but - it misses the first couple of seconds of the disc whilst the unit changes from radio to cd player ?????????
Dunno about this as I never listen to the Radio LOL
-my traffic function does not work (seemingly subscription service )
Funny - mine works and I don't subscribe to anything!
-unit has very limited audio amendment features
true - especially when compared to an aftermarket unit, but an aftermarket unit will need extra functions for aftermarket audio set-ups
-radio text is next to useless although I know that is down to the radio stations
See previous answer about not listening to radio
-the 510 is veeeeery expensive
Absolutely agree if you are foolhardy enough to buy it from a dealer or as a new car option
-the 3d nav viewer is very basic
Yes as it is based on old technology now
-the audio outputs should be a bit higher than 50w per channel
?? I thought they were 20w per channel??
-it should have a tv tuner for a two grand unit, man it should make coffee at two grand
agreed
seems like I hate the unit doesn't it lol
there are good points though
-it looks very oem
-it is good for integration for things like mfsw / mk6 camera etc
-the dvd player is superb quality screen
-the mk6 camera screen is also very good but that's more down to the £350 I shelled out for a mk6 camera
-and mmm, it lights up red like the other controls in the car
also it is very difficult to upgrade the audio on it due to the connectivity, most other after market units at a fraction of the price will let you do this, with the 510 still not letting you go over 50%-60% volume depending on type of music especially drum and base etc without distorting the quality, nobody is getting say 80% volume on any type of 510 unit without some major upgrading of the speakers, the oem speakers / tweeters etc cant handle it.
sure I will pick up a lot of flack from 510 lovers by this thread but so be it, the above comments are my own personal opinion and I do somewhat like the unit but if I didn't need it for my rear view camera and mfsw I would change it in the future whilst it still has re-sale value.
what is it vw charge for one of these things £2100 or so, obviously I didn't pay that but even so that's a crap load of money
biggest disappointment is the nav, on my £50 tom tom I have been using for years I can predict the oncoming curves on a country road and reduce my speed accordingly for blind corners driving into them, on my 510 it is way more difficult as it is nowhere near as detailed no matter even if you put it to it's maximum zoom of 150 yards, it just does not show enough detail.
so there is my opinion of the rns-510-h all singing all dancing multi function unit
let the opinions roll in
See in bold :happy2:
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Andrew every comment that comes from you is always negative, every damn one of them, if you have a chip on your shoulder get it said on snip it :stupid:
Don't be a dick. I suggested that your post might have been better posted as a review. As far as I am aware there is nothing malicious in that suggestion. Robin commented that it wasn't written as a review and I agreed. My tone was purely due to not being aware of the "rules" regarding posting a review.
As for staying away from your threads, I have on several occasions posted helpful advice in relation to questions you have asked, so wind your neck in.
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Give the guy a break. He's wrote his thoughts, whether its in your way it should be written or not or in the right or wrong section :indifferent:
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This would have been better posted as a review, rather than in the General section.
....Except that Scott hasn't structured it like a review: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,438.0.html
Is there an Audio section on the site?
thank you, I have not structured it like a review for 1 reason ( exposure ) if I structured it as a review it would get bumped to that section and would get lost, I am trying to get peoples opinions here, so Andrew parker never assume I don't know what I am doing and yes we have entered debates and helped each other out on other listings but you are polite one minute then throw silly comments the next,
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Andrew every comment that comes from you is always negative, every damn one of them, if you have a chip on your shoulder get it said on snip it :stupid:
Don't be a dick. I suggested that your post might have been better posted as a review. As far as I am aware there is nothing malicious in that suggestion. Robin commented that it wasn't written as a review and I agreed. My tone was purely due to not being aware of the "rules" regarding posting a review.
As for staying away from your threads, I have on several occasions posted helpful advice in relation to questions you have asked, so wind your neck in.
thank you hurdy and thank you saint steve for your USEFULL comments, very much appreciated and as the guy says I am trying to get opinions on this system and get other peoples thoughts.
the quote above is exactly as I said about your input mr andrewparker, one minute you are calm then the next you are swearing on the forum,,,,, did I upset you ? GOOD mr 1600+ posts - pffff :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty:bite my :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty: :booty:
now all the silly things are out of the way and all kids are back in there prams may we get back to the topic please.
so far 1 usefull review and DOES mostly confirm the units flaws,
as I said a good system but just after peoples opinions that's all so please people all comments usefull and no more fighting :love:
apart from you Andrew :booty:
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I'm still at a loss as to how it was a silly comment. As I said, I was unaware that there was a format that needed to be followed when writing a review. As such I actually thought your post was written as a review and might receive more structured and meaningful replies posted in the reviews section. How is that so bad, and what makes you think I assumed you didn't know what you were doing?
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Haha, well I'm pretty pleased I can illicit such a response, but really, I think you've taken my comments the wrong way.
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Haha, well I'm pretty pleased I can illicit such a response, but really, I think you've taken my comments the wrong way.
you got am immediate response because you come onto a thread and leave a comment that has nothing to do with the thread and offer nothing in regards to the thread, dude it aint the first, second or third time you have came in and barked your 2 cents worth, if you have no constructive comment regarding someone's query maybe you should think twice about trying to be some kind of thread admin clerk.
did I take you the wrong way ! maybe, just tired of you being nice then being the opposite,,,,,, you keep teasing a dog IT WILL bite you eventually.
lets drop this :popcornsoda:
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Ding ding round two
Subscribed :popcornsoda:
(I'll apologise now, this post is not on topic :ashamed:)
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well for what it's worth i thought Scott's original post was very informative and enhanced further by Hurdy's reply stating his opinions in bold - 10/10.
the rest of this thread gets 1/10 :fighting2:
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Ive never used a built in nav that comes close to tomtom. I've got tomtom on my iphone and it leans perfectly in the DIS between the clocks when i need to use it.
Ive got an RCD510DAB as i wanted an OEM look and DAB.
I dont think the RNS or RCD are 50w.. way less... but ive now got an audison bit ten DSP feeding an amp that runs everything. If you want decent sound an OEM.. this is the only way. Otherwise get an aftermarket headunit.
In answer though.. yes it is damn expensive compared to the RCD for a sat nav system that isnt THAT great. Only really get the RNS if you want OEM and dont want tomtom leaning on your dash.
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is the OP asking if there is a better system available?? i dont get it :laugh:
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is the OP asking if there is a better system available?? i dont get it :laugh:
no just my findings on the system that's all
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well for what it's worth i thought Scott's original post was very informative and enhanced further by Hurdy's reply stating his opinions in bold - 10/10.
the rest of this thread gets 1/10 :fighting2:
thank you frenzy and yes hurdy was also very informative, want to get the post back to topic now
just looking for peoples findings on the 510 that's all
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Ive never used a built in nav that comes close to tomtom. I've got tomtom on my iphone and it leans perfectly in the DIS between the clocks when i need to use it.
Ive got an RCD510DAB as i wanted an OEM look and DAB.
I dont think the RNS or RCD are 50w.. way less... but ive now got an audison bit ten DSP feeding an amp that runs everything. If you want decent sound an OEM.. this is the only way. Otherwise get an aftermarket headunit.
In answer though.. yes it is damn expensive compared to the RCD for a sat nav system that isnt THAT great. Only really get the RNS if you want OEM and dont want tomtom leaning on your dash.
pretty sure it is 50w per channel on the 510 but someone will confirm this soon I guess
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It's 4 x 20 watts on the RNS 510.
Shock horror - a helpful post!
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It's 4 x 20 watts on the RNS 510.
Shock horror - a helpful post!
Yes but is that peak or RMS Andrew?
See not so helpful. :P
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Balls.
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It's 4 x 20w RMS by the way...
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It's 4 x 20w RMS by the way...
I said it was 20w per channel on my post on page 2! :P
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gladly take it off your hands if you find something else scott...
fair play for putting up all the info though..been informative to me !!!
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yes typo error
it is as you say 4 x 20w
that would also explain the inability to get the volume above 50% or so on a high base song
4 x 20 w is a bit low for a flagship system but tbh I don't think the oem speakers can handle much more anyway, the way the 10 speaker system is attached to the car makes it difficult to upgrade them, especially the tiny tweeters as there is not a lot of speaker systems out there that will fit into the tiny space on the front door pillar where it is located.
there is after market multi media systems out there that will allow you to integrate things like mfsw, rev cam etc but there is NOTHING out there that will give you FULL connectivity like the 510 will so for this reason it gets a plus point, you will always loose some kind of feature with a non oem unit,,,, a lot of times that is the hard drive.
at the end of the day if you where to pay dealer prices for the set up I got recently it is something stupid like £3500 and im sure EVERYONE would agree - that would be mad.
from the expertise off eddie-nl I managed to get from him
rns-510-h
shark fin gps antenna
mk6 reverse camera
bt module
Bluetooth kit
all cabling etc
and a ton of great advise
the whole lot for around £1200 and I admit it is a great set up
going by these prices you will be hard pushed to get ANYTHING close to that quality especially when you integrate the pop out mk6 camera, easy enough to find a multi media unit out there for £500 or so and it will do lots of things BUT add up the costs of the rest of the set up and also getting your head around the compatibility issues and the bill will be over the £1200 and be a bit messy as not oem.
now it would seem like I am contradicting my own thread here but if you read it properly I was not at the beginning slating the 510 I was just and am still on the look out for peoples general opinions on the system
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as everyone already knows if looking for any parts give eddie a shout, great service, great delivery, great price and items packaged as good as it gets.
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gladly take it off your hands if you find something else scott...
fair play for putting up all the info though..been informative to me !!!
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thank you marko im glad someone has got some info from this
I found a massive review on the 510 although it is based on the American version I think
I read half of it as its huge with fitting guides and video guides, is very very usefull and also tells you things you wont already know
check it out
http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a5/rns510-VW-GPS-FAQ.htm
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Just read this and basically agree with what Hurdy's response was to your list.
It should do more for a £2k system but I doubt you actually paid £2k for it probably about a third of that price like many of us did (not including rvc, BT, MDI etc).
Most people sacrifice the functionality for it to look OEM and all the cables to be hidden. The nearest you can get to an OEM unit with more functionality is the Kenwood for £999 that has Garmin sat nav built in and you can get add ons like tv etc which put the price through the roof. Also all the iPod connections etc are on show from the HU which is untidy as you have leads coming out the HU.
There are other aftermarket HU's on the market that do alot more than the RNS and would probably have been a better choice but it's a choice you have to make, basically its looks vs functionality to some extent. Also am I right you've got RVC as I don't think the you could get the boot badge rvc to work with an aftermarket unit so you wouldn't have that feature.
Tbh it's swings and roundabouts. Personally I'd go for another RNS in my next car (probably get my one moved across to it) as it does everything I need and am generally impressed by it.
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I Honestly LOVE the RNS. I would say its one of the Best mods/upgrades you could ever do to your VAG. :notworthy:
Don't understand this thread one bit???
Would've been easier to start a poll.
Likey
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No Likey.
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Don't understand this thread one bit??
Totally agree with you I've read all of this and feel as though Scott just loves writing for writing sake, sorry Scott, I see no real point to this at all.
In one line your saying its a great unit, then next its got tons of flaws and u think it should do more.
Best thing you could do is sell it and get something you won't criticize so much.
I personally don't feel there are any major flaws with the system at all, if tom toms so great go back to it.
VW have a great unit, basic speakers which can easily be upgraded Scott u just need to spend some money. As a whole system it runs rings round a lot of other OEM stuff in a car, so if u want something better you'll still have average speakers meaning spending upto say 1.5k for speakers and stereo.
One last thing its only 3k to buy new from the parts department or 1.8k if u trade in old unit, when bought as an extra its about 2k with the correct roof aerial as well, so most people buy from eBay or Ed or Nick at upto 700 quid, that's not expensive for what u get its a good price for a great stereo.
I'm sure there is going to be a massively long reply from Scott with lots of silly animated smiles, I can't wait!!
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I too do not understand the point of this thread ..... sorry bud i'm not having a go. Even after reading the post a few times I really cant see what you expect people to say about the unit... It works and does look sexy... the user interface is slick, Clear and easy to use... unlike some... maybe it isn't the best nav unit but I wouldn't know as I have the RCD510 and use Tom Tom on my I-Phone which is in my opinion dam good and always with me whatever car I am in... you pay your money and make your choice.
Regards.
Well i'm bored of typing now :smiley:
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The RNS 510 is a great unit, but there are other units out there, like the Alpine INE-W928R which does everything the RNS does and more in a one box solution and is as OEM as you get including OEM camera and parking sensor integration and does display all the info and BT on the red and white MFD. All for £1100, including the dash fitting kit and harness adapter. It's also much slicker than the Kenwood's I have tried and with the 8" screen a good jump in screen size over the RNS. Scott, if you are looking for a unit other than the RNS, I would recommend looking at the Alpine.
I will be replacing the RNS in my car with an Alpine 928R. The RNS will be going into the wife's new car, whatever we decide on, unless it's the new Mk7 Golf.
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I have an RCD510 DAB which I think is great having the DAB function unlike the RNS 510. It also only cost me £200 (ebay as new) plus £20 for the DAB aerial :laugh:
Use my TOM TOM Sat Nav when I need it.
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I Honestly LOVE the RNS. I would say its one of the Best mods/upgrades you could ever do to your VAG. :notworthy:
Don't understand this thread one bit???
Would've been easier to start a poll.
Likey
Or
No Likey.
I concur Monte. :happy2:
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Iv never owned a sat nav or had any fancy headunit so iv never known anything different to the awesome RNS! Maybe some headunits are better but they look turd! :booty:
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It's 4 x 20w RMS by the way...
I said it was 20w per channel on my post on page 2! :P
well spotted hurdy :happy2:
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Just read this and basically agree with what Hurdy's response was to your list.
It should do more for a £2k system but I doubt you actually paid £2k for it probably about a third of that price like many of us did (not including rvc, BT, MDI etc).
Most people sacrifice the functionality for it to look OEM and all the cables to be hidden. The nearest you can get to an OEM unit with more functionality is the Kenwood for £999 that has Garmin sat nav built in and you can get add ons like tv etc which put the price through the roof. Also all the iPod connections etc are on show from the HU which is untidy as you have leads coming out the HU.
There are other aftermarket HU's on the market that do alot more than the RNS and would probably have been a better choice but it's a choice you have to make, basically its looks vs functionality to some extent. Also am I right you've got RVC as I don't think the you could get the boot badge rvc to work with an aftermarket unit so you wouldn't have that feature.
Tbh it's swings and roundabouts. Personally I'd go for another RNS in my next car (probably get my one moved across to it) as it does everything I need and am generally impressed by it.
thanks for that info nodz, yes I agree with you, the selling points on the 510 for me was the rvc and the oem look, at the end of the day it works well and I am happy with the system, maybe I should have said at the very beginning that I really do love this system but just want to make a few points ( wouldn't have came across as if I was attacking it I guess ) more thought on my thread next time mate.
and to answer your other question regarding the amount I paid you are correct I paid roughly what the forum rate is for an h system.
tbh I would have been a bit stuck if it wasn't for eddie-nl giving me all the advise I needed, I know he is primarily a sales guy on here but the amount of question I asked the poor guy regarding integration of everything I bought from him was loads, I had just bought my mk5 and knew nothing about it so I asked him a lot of noob questions at the beginning and he was always very helpful, nothing to do with the shopping list growing all the time or anything lol but to be fair the guy delivered exactly as promised and even helped my fitter on the phone when he hit a brick wall so fair respect for him.
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Don't understand this thread one bit??
Totally agree with you I've read all of this and feel as though Scott just loves writing for writing sake, sorry Scott, I see no real point to this at all.
In one line your saying its a great unit, then next its got tons of flaws and u think it should do more.
Best thing you could do is sell it and get something you won't criticize so much.
I personally don't feel there are any major flaws with the system at all, if tom toms so great go back to it.
VW have a great unit, basic speakers which can easily be upgraded Scott u just need to spend some money. As a whole system it runs rings round a lot of other OEM stuff in a car, so if u want something better you'll still have average speakers meaning spending upto say 1.5k for speakers and stereo.
One last thing its only 3k to buy new from the parts department or 1.8k if u trade in old unit, when bought as an extra its about 2k with the correct roof aerial as well, so most people buy from eBay or Ed or Nick at upto 700 quid, that's not expensive for what u get its a good price for a great stereo.
I'm sure there is going to be a massively long reply from Scott with lots of silly animated smiles, I can't wait!!
Si
thanks si and no worries I hear what you are saying, no massive smileys for you though.
there is a point to this thread though and the answers so far are making that point,
some constructive and some not but that's good though,
many people love the system, some agree to minor basic flaws, some recommendations as to why other systems will and wont work - so I think these responses help the general question.
at the beginning I said I AM happy with the unit but am also surprised by some basic things on it, that's a fair point tbh and it aint slamming the quality, if it came across that way then ok I can see why.
at the end of the day all comments are helpful in some way
ps,,, now that response wasn't to big was it, I can waffle a bit as you say :drinking: