MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: gazon69 on November 30, 2012, 11:01:07 am
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Looking into getting a diff after xmas and was wondering which one (of the ones that are running them) can give an honest interpretation of what they are like. If their not what you expected or dont work as good as you would have thought i would like to know, rather than spunk a boat load of cash up the wall.
Not bothered about price but would like to know best vfm.
Thanks in advance Gaz
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I am running the Quaife and pretty happy with it. I changed my clutch at the same time so extra labour was small compared to doing the job just for changing the diff over. Straight line traction has improved a decent amount but the main benefit is powering through corners, I found it holds the car in so much more. In the wet the front gripped almost as well as the dry pre diff which says a lot. You still need to drive it with a certain precision as it won't stop you front lighting the front wheels up if you plant your foot to the floor mid corner.
I'm happy I went for it and if I were to get another FWD it would be in my top 3 things to do. Of course this is all my opinion, the review Robin did on the Quaife diff is a very good read and loads of decent opinions on that thread too.
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Although I have the Quaife (since November 2008), I reckon that the Wavetrac is a serious contender. It's supposed to have an advantage over the Quaife. However, after thousands of miles on my Quaife (DSG version) I have absolutely no complaints and think it is an excellent mod.
Any talk about a diff being only good for track is rubbish, IMO. Your car doesn't know whether it's being driven fast on a road or a track and the diff simply responds to the conditions and how the car is being driven. There are plenty of circumstances on a road when the diff will react without you behaving as if you were racing other cars.
Most people are reluctant to spend the cost of installing a diff as a mod because it's not one you can remove and sell on later (assuming that's your inclination).
If you plan to keep your car and you enjoy spirited driving whether on road or a trackday, I recommend it without hesitation. You get used to it pretty quickly and you still need to take care when driving and stay away from the limits but it extends your car's limits. It's also a mod which contributes a lot to the overall package of a power modded FWD car.
The fact that Volkswagen have now introduced either a diff or their equivalent as OEM must tell everyone that there's a need.
Quaife Review: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,651.0.html :happy2: HTH
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What others have said quaife all the way best mod for driving fast :driver:
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Gaz, you should know better than to think that folks here will advise you against spending money on modding your car :laugh: :evilgrin:
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Wish I'd never came in on this thread... :scared:
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Wish I'd never came in on this thread... :scared:
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^ We're only trying to help you, Dom :evilgrin:
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After going in alex's car with a Diff, i now know what all the fuss is about!! :driver:
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I can only advise you on this Gaz....The Quaife was probably one of - if not THE best mod I had on my ED30. You can tell the difference and if you want to do trackdays with a powerful FWD car you NEED to do this mod to get the best from it. :happy2:
Statllers would be able to fit it in a day too :wink:
Hope it doesn't appear like I am sitting on the fence with this one! :evilgrin:
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After going in alex's car with a Diff, i now know what all the fuss is about!! :driver:
....O you of little faith! :laugh: How long have we been telling you how good a diff is, Rich?
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Oh why didn;t I do this when I had my clutch fitted... :signLOL:
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Gaz, you should know better than to think that folks here will advise you against spending money on modding your car :laugh: :evilgrin:
Ha ha, this a must for me after crimbo now, along with full polybushing. I think then i will be satisfied with the car. :grin:
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Thanks for the advice. I think the general concensus is the quaife then. Anyone know who supplies them, are they direct from quaife? Price? Thanks all for spending more of my hard earned :drinking:
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Thanks for the advice. I think the general concensus is the quaife then. Anyone know who supplies them, are they direct from quaife? Price? Thanks all for spending more of my hard earned :drinking:
I got mine delivered direct to Statllers from Spitfire performance.co.uk who are based up in the Dearne valley. I got £100 off the retail price.. :happy2:
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Thanks for the advice. I think the general concensus is the quaife then. Anyone know who supplies them, are they direct from quaife? Price? Thanks all for spending more of my hard earned :drinking:
I got mine delivered direct to Statllers from Spitfire performance.co.uk who are based up in the Dearne valley. I got £100 off the retail price.. :happy2:
cheers John. :drinking:
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Thanks for the advice. I think the general concensus is the quaife then. Anyone know who supplies them, are they direct from quaife? Price? Thanks all for spending more of my hard earned :drinking:
....You are only getting replies which recommend the Quaife because there are very few Wavetrac users on the forum. I'm not saying which is better because I have no experience of the Wavetrac and because only Quaife and Peloquin (American) were available when I chose my Quaife diff in 2008.
You'd have nothing to worry about if you got a Quaife but do also check out what the Wavetrac has to offer. I think Danish Jake has one, and also someone else. HTH :happy2:
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Happy quaife owner here! One of the best mods for spirited driving!
TT Turbo organised group buy here. He might be able to sort you out at great price
Paul
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Been pondering a diff again myself lately.
Have noticed that a couple of new cars recently have had Drexler 'slippy' units fitted. (New VXR and Alpina B3 GT3).
But from using the search on here all the only info on Drexler points to them being very expensive. So do they operate in a different way, like the Wavetrac perhaps or are they made out of Kryptonite or something equally exotic?
Also does anyone know if the Peloquin and Wavetracs are fit and forget, like the Quaife appears to be with their lifetime warranty etc?
Had talked myself out of getting one, didn't 'need' it I said.
Now the diff 'want-o-meter' has swung back onto 'gotta have/gotta get'... oh dear.
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After going in alex's car with a Diff, i now know what all the fuss is about!! :driver:
....O you of little faith! :laugh: How long have we been telling you how good a diff is, Rich?
I have never questioned the diff.............. just other things! :wink:
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Happy Wavetrac owner here.
Does exactly what I wanted it to do. Grip/drive out of corners has increased no end.
However, having never driven a car before fitted with a limited slip diff, I have nothing to compare it against.
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I have the wavetrac as RR states and are more than pleased with it. Actually when ordering you are able to get it customized to your driving needs as it also as RR states are a bit different that the Peloquin and Quaife options in it has a viscous solution in it which in zero G situations allows more power to the wheel that has a bit of grip and depending on what plates that are fitted you will gain different driving caracteristics.
Thumbs up from me to the Wavetrac solution :happy2:
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After going in alex's car with a Diff, i now know what all the fuss is about!! :driver:
I was impressed with the amount of front end grip on his car. And hes on normal road tyres as well. He has the Hi torque Peloquin iirc
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After going in alex's car with a Diff, i now know what all the fuss is about!! :driver:
I was impressed with the amount of front end grip on his car. And hes on normal road tyres as well. He has the Hi torque Peloquin iirc
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: Bonkers!!!
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Fitted both and driven cars in anger with both diffs
My own has a Quaife fitted no particular reason over wavetrac apart from I got a good deal on it
Even on the road you can feel the diff working although often it tends to have you exciting corners at higher speeds than you really should :driver:
I was always told the wavetrac deployed the power better in situations such as the first right downhill at Donington ?? I think it was a wavetrac reseller who told me that
Great mod IMHO
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Fitted both and driven cars in anger with both diffs
My own has a Quaife fitted no particular reason over wavetrac apart from I got a good deal on it
Even on the road you can feel the diff working although often it tends to have you exciting corners at higher speeds than you really should :driver:
I was always told the wavetrac deployed the power better in situations such as the first right downhill at Donington ?? I think it was a wavetrac reseller who told me that
Great mod IMHO
Steve, can you let me know how much please + fitting cheers Gaz
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Even on the road you can feel the diff working although often it tends to have you exciting corners at higher speeds than you really should :driver:
....Slow in and fast out is the way I have been taught and you can get back on the power earlier in a corner with a diff (subject to road conditions). Who dictates what speed you "should" exit a corner, Stevo?
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Fast in fast out... Trail braking... ;-)
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....Slow in and fast out is the way I have been taught and you can get back on the power earlier in a corner with a diff (subject to road conditions). Who dictates what speed you "should" exit a corner, Stevo?
My numb right foot of course !!
When I test the diffs after fitting there's a certain stretch of road I use, the camber is devine, its a slight uphill long left then quick right eventually levelling out to a nice long fast gentle left again, it can upset a stock car quite easily but with the diff you can tighten the front up using the throttle, good feeling and it's the total opposite effect of an open diff car, problem is with most of the FWD cars were seeing now starting at 350 to 450 hp the speed build up in third or fourth while doing it even on light throttle leaves you sometimes existing well into three figures, thing is the cars feel very planted still while doing it (in the dry :wink:)
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Fast in fast out... Trail braking... ;-)
....My habit is not to trail brake on the road but to do my braking (however strongly) while the car is still in a straight line. Trail braking requires lots of practice.
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I have a wavetrac in the cupra, love it, glad I went for it,
The car feels far more useable