MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Rustybear on December 03, 2012, 10:01:28 pm
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Love my Gti, however, I've seen a 2006 r32 which I like the look of, is their much difference apart from engine note and slightly better speed?
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Stop this now. Please.
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Stage 1 GTI would pull away from a stock R32, but wouldn't sound half as nice....in my opinion.
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I heard both the gti and the R32 are the 2 fastest cars in the world.....
....but which is quicker? :popcornsoda: :pomppomp:
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friend of mine has a gti and claims it's faster stock than the r32....dunno if I believe him.
I test drove an R32 a couple of days ago and it sounded great, and the power delivery was smoother and more immediate (as you would expect from a N/A car). However, it'll be less readily tunable given how easy it is to tune turbo charged cars respectively...
To hinder things further, the 4WD is always nice to have
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Someone please lock this thread.... :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:
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This thread is gonna f*ck sh*t up
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Oh god not again! As mentioned, please stop this NOW before it gets out of hand.
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Now look we all know the gttdi has more torque than my misses :signLOL:
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Which is the fastestestest?
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this is getting interesting or is it not??
:signLOL:
Paul
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buy the BMW M135i - it's the best car you could ever possibly own
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buy the BMW M135i - it's the best car you could ever possibly own
Is it faster than an R32?
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buy the BMW M135i - it's the best car you could ever possibly own
Stop making this thread about you and Andrew. It is for local people with local interests. :drool:
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buy the BMW M135i - it's the best car you could ever possibly own
Is it faster than an R32?
Never!
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buy the BMW M135i - it's the best car you could ever possibly own
Stop making this thread about you and Andrew. It is for local people with local interests. :drool:
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nathan, is that you in the monkey suit?
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I dont see no suit. :P
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Stop this now. Please.
Andrew do you see what I mean about you being rude on peoples threads, what do you mean -- stop this now -- leave the guy alone as his thread question is NOT silly, he is just asking a question, personally I clicked onto his thread as I found the title quite interesting.
please think before you pester people and comments like you made just stop new members asking questions in fear of being ridiculed
Lighten up a bit Scott, it's just a bit of banter!! :confused:
Oh and TC and Berg........ :booty:
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:scared:
Both slow.
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:scared:
Both slow.
in reverse :evilgrin:
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What about MPG.......... :scared:
On a serious note though get a Gti spend £500 on a stage 1, and you'll have a car that's not far off or even quicker with better fuel economy, cheaper tax and insurance and looks a whole load better.
It's a no brainer to me unless 4WD is so important.
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I used this in another thread, but I ain't scared to use it again: :P
I'd recommend doing a search as this thread will end up going like this:
1) few people saying their thoughts
2) someone will slate R32
3) someone with R32 will retaliate
4) will go on like that for a bit
5) RedRobin will post a picture
And at the end of it all, your non the wiser :laugh:
Looking at some of the comments already, I'm worried that this forum is getting like Civic Type-R owners. Heaven forbid :scared:
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I used this in another thread, but I ain't scared to use it again: :P
I'd recommend doing a search as this thread will end up going like this:
1) few people saying their thoughts
2) someone will slate R32
3) someone with R32 will retaliate
4) will go on like that for a bit
5) RedRobin will post a picture
And at the end of it all, your non the wiser :laugh:
"It's funny cos it's true"
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What about MPG.......... :scared:
On a serious note though get a Gti spend £500 on a stage 1, and you'll have a car that's not far off or even quicker with better fuel economy, cheaper tax and insurance and looks a whole load better.
It's a no brainer to me unless 4WD is so important.
I agree
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Is red still the fastest colour?
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Is red still the fastest colour?
without a doubt :signLOL:
P.s people on here need to lighten up a little. (Its christmas!) nearly
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isn't black the fastest colour? You dont see Lockheed making stealth planes with red paint on :rolleye:
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isn't black the fastest colour? You dont see Lockheed making stealth planes with red paint on :rolleye:
How do you know :laugh:
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I used this in another thread, but I ain't scared to use it again: :P
I'd recommend doing a search as this thread will end up going like this:
1) few people saying their thoughts
2) someone will slate R32
3) someone with R32 will retaliate
4) will go on like that for a bit
5) RedRobin will post a picture
So true :grin: :grin:
No mention of the megane or the TTRS yet :innocent:
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Love my Gti, however, I've seen a 2006 r32 which I like the look of, is their much difference apart from engine note and slightly better speed?
3.2 litre n/a V6 engine
Haldex 4wd
Bigger discs & calipers
Different styling-alloys,bodykit,front & rear valances
Xenon lights standard
Different exhaust
Different interior
I think it sits lower, but not 100% sure...
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Having owned both a Gti Ed30 and an R32 i think i can probably help here ...
Ed30 - easier to tune for bhp, lighter. Cheaper tax, insurance and slightly better on fuel (i averaged 29mpg). However brakes are very poor, it sounds like a dishwasher and it understeers for england when pushing on. Ed30 is also pretty expensive for the age due to the 'scene tax' and most are quite poorly specced (esp. the Gti).
R32 - not really tuneable, heavy. Expensive tax, insurance and mpg is generally worse (i average 27mpg). However, the brakes are considerably better than the Ed30, its sounds incredible and imho handles a bit better as you can use the rear end to quell the understeer slighly (more so with a Haldex controller). As most people are afraid of the perceived running costs, they are much better VFM than the Gti and usually come better specced.
My opinion?
If you want to extensively modify (esp. for power), buy a Gti. Plenty of bits to change, that imho, really do need changing.
If you want a nice sounding daily/cruiser that you dont have to pour money at, buy an R32. Its a hot hatch alternative to a 330i.
Compared to something by RenaultSport, neither are paricularly good drivers cars, so id prefer the one with the engine that suits the lazy character of the car, which imho is the R32. This is a Gti forum however, so most will disagree :P
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I used this in another thread, but I ain't scared to use it again: :P
I'd recommend doing a search as this thread will end up going like this:
1) few people saying their thoughts
2) someone will slate R32
3) someone with R32 will retaliate
4) will go on like that for a bit
5) RedRobin will post a picture
And at the end of it all, your non the wiser :laugh:
Looking at some of the comments already, I'm worried that this forum is getting like Civic Type-R owners. Heaven forbid :scared:
Can you expand on this???
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As above, Ed30 will trounce the R32 on the straights but lose it in the corners. Depends on your requirements. I would recommend test driving one before making a decision. If looking at standard GTI, IMO it won't hold up against an R32.
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The R32 may grip more BUT doesn't mean it will handle better. :popcornsoda:
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Having owned all 3 also... I agree with this. If I could pick one to drive everyday then it would be the R32. Unfortunately running costs play a part and due to the high miles I do its not an option. Thats why I drive a Ed30. hope that helps :happy2:
Having owned both a Gti Ed30 and an R32 i think i can probably help here ...
Ed30 - easier to tune for bhp, lighter. Cheaper tax, insurance and slightly better on fuel (i averaged 29mpg). However brakes are very poor, it sounds like a dishwasher and it understeers for england when pushing on. Ed30 is also pretty expensive for the age due to the 'scene tax' and most are quite poorly specced (esp. the Gti).
R32 - not really tuneable, heavy. Expensive tax, insurance and mpg is generally worse (i average 27mpg). However, the brakes are considerably better than the Ed30, its sounds incredible and imho handles a bit better as you can use the rear end to quell the understeer slighly (more so with a Haldex controller). As most people are afraid of the perceived running costs, they are much better VFM than the Gti and usually come better specced.
My opinion?
If you want to extensively modify (esp. for power), buy a Gti. Plenty of bits to change, that imho, really do need changing.
If you want a nice sounding daily/cruiser that you dont have to pour money at, buy an R32. Its a hot hatch alternative to a 330i.
Compared to something by RenaultSport, neither are paricularly good drivers cars, so id prefer the one with the engine that suits the lazy character of the car, which imho is the R32. This is a Gti forum however, so most will disagree :P
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can somebody please explain why r32 would handle better then GTI/Ed30? I am not talking about grip which is undeniable. For r32 you have to shift those bigger weight around which surely is never good for handling
Paul
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Stop this now. Please.
Andrew do you see what I mean about you being rude on peoples threads, what do you mean -- stop this now -- leave the guy alone as his thread question is NOT silly, he is just asking a question, personally I clicked onto his thread as I found the title quite interesting.
please think before you pester people and comments like you made just stop new members asking questions in fear of being ridiculed
Crikey Scott, you like to live life SERIOUSLY don't you!
:signLOL:
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Can't see an R32 ever doing this without some serious money spent on it:
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:indifferent:
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:indifferent:
What he said. :happy2:
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imo for what it is worth,it would be great to turbo a r32 then you would have best of both worlds lmao,but in general does it really matter what the badge states,its how it drives,makes you feel if it puts a huge smile on your face then in my book job done,i love both of them but choose the gti for no other reason than i loved it at the time and love it even more now two years on.this debat will rage on for ever r32/gti :drinking: :drinking:
Dougie
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Red is the Fastest :P :P :P :P :P :P
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Cn I go faster rnd cornaz and twistz wiv an R32?
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Is red still the fastest colour?
Only on the GTI. Blue is the fastest R32 colour, which is incidentally faster than a Stage 4 TR GTI with nitrous
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isn't black the fastest colour? You dont see Lockheed making stealth planes with red paint on :rolleye:
How do you know :laugh:
the russians told me
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can somebody please explain why r32 would handle better then GTI/Ed30? I am not talking about grip which is undeniable. For r32 you have to shift those bigger weight around which surely is never good for handling
To be honest, if you are talking about handling in terms of the way the car feels beneath you, ie the feedback from the steering/pedals and seat, both are equally inept. As are most modern VAG cars unfortunately, their tendency to understeer on the limit (stupid engine placement) and insistence on TC/ESP that is always lurking somewhere usually kills the ultimate level of driver/car interaction that is so prevalent in French hot hatches.
I do however like that the Haldex in the R32 can be brought into play to move the rear end of the car around a little more. Yes, trail braking into a corner in the Gti will do that to a certain extent, but my understanding is that when a Haldex controller is used in the R32 the additional rear bias of the transmissions torque shuffling further aids to help quell the on-limit understeer of the car.
Neither is ever going to be as intimate as my old 182 Trophy, but i think with work the R32 should be fairly rapid, albeit more of a blunt instrument than a delicate scalpel. All MK5's need a stiffer rear ARB though, the standard harder/softer ARB setup is great for safety, but will always create understeer.
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imo for what it is worth,it would be great to turbo a r32 then you would have best of both worlds lmao,
My next door neighbour has amongst other things turbo'd his Mk4 R32 and its now pushing 550+ bhp, man that thing sounds like a Spitfire when it goes up the road.
This obviously has no bearing whatsoever on this thread. :signLOL:
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can somebody please explain why r32 would handle better then GTI/Ed30? I am not talking about grip which is undeniable. For r32 you have to shift those bigger weight around which surely is never good for handling
Paul
It has better weight distribution for one, but ideally you should drive one to find out . Preferably with the esp OFF.
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can somebody please explain why r32 would handle better then GTI/Ed30? I am not talking about grip which is undeniable. For r32 you have to shift those bigger weight around which surely is never good for handling
Paul
It has better weight distribution for one, but ideally you should drive one to find out . Preferably with the esp OFF.
interesting.... I thought it's common consensus that AWD would always be duller to drive than FWD or RWD due to lack of feel etc
But again it's always very subjective
Paul
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Stop this now. Please.
Andrew do you see what I mean about you being rude on peoples threads, what do you mean -- stop this now -- leave the guy alone as his thread question is NOT silly, he is just asking a question, personally I clicked onto his thread as I found the title quite interesting.
please think before you pester people and comments like you made just stop new members asking questions in fear of being ridiculed
Crikey Scott, you like to live life SERIOUSLY don't you!
:signLOL:
only for you my sweetie :evilgrin:
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Ive had all of them, standard and tuned.
R32 wins hands down, regardless of tuning.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12851.0.html
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Ive had all of them, standard and tuned.
R32 wins hands down, regardless of tuning.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12851.0.html
shhhh dont say that!!!! you will be laughed at :grin: Although I agree :P
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ed30 quicker in the dry, and that was coming from a stage 2 R32 owner.
evo said the ed30/pirelli was the best mk5 all rounder.
the r32 soundtrack and traction must be good, but the heavier kerb weight, less mpg and less tuneable count against. but have not driven an r32 so maybe i would love it more than my eddie!
plus, am i only the only one that does not like the silver grille bit? really dont like it.
end of the day they are all great cars but i think of the MK5 range the Pirelli is the one to have whereras in the MK6 range it is the R not the ED35!
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Mr Andrew parker although we don't get on I will put my hands up on this thread as you said at the beginning and I quote (( stop this now )) and I had a pop at you.
after reading the replies it seems to be going around in circles and I cant see an end in sight lol.
so Mr parker I will apologise to you on this occasion as you where right and I was wrong, bet that puts a smile on your face lol
until our next scrap :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Mr Andrew parker although we don't get on I will put my hands up on this thread as you said at the beginning and I quote (( stop this now )) and I had a pop at you.
after reading the replies it seems to be going around in circles and I cant see an end in sight lol.
so Mr parker I will apologise to you on this occasion as you where right and I was wrong, bet that puts a smile on your face lol
until our next scrap :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
We have had about 25 of these threads so we all know the well trodden path they take. This one has still got 4 or 5 pages left yet too. :rolleye:
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Same goes for the DSG/ manual threads and the 'just had my GTI mapped to stage one and i have got a special one with 290 BHP". :grin:
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Mr Andrew parker although we don't get on I will put my hands up on this thread as you said at the beginning and I quote (( stop this now )) and I had a pop at you.
after reading the replies it seems to be going around in circles and I cant see an end in sight lol.
so Mr parker I will apologise to you on this occasion as you where right and I was wrong, bet that puts a smile on your face lol
until our next scrap :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
The handbags have been put away, at least until another day.
What was all the fuss we say, can't you boys just learn to play?
My rhyming here is almost done, remember lads this place is fun :grin:
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If you think Andrew vs (insert forum member) isnt funny enough then just link the thread on R32oc :popcornsoda:
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Noooooooo! That would not be funny.
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Noooooooo! That would not be funny.
Why? :popcornsoda:
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Thank you all for the replays/info :smiley:
Didn't realise such an emotive subject!!!
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the answer is simple we all have different views on what car we like ie
gti,r32,pirelli
I like my tdi as i am a yorkshire man and hate putting fuel in my car as am a tight b*****d :signLOL:
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the answer is simple we all have different views on what car we like ie
gti,r32,pirelli
I like my tdi as i am a yorkshire man and hate putting fuel in my car as am a tight b*****d :signLOL:
got a gti and I am a tight b*****d as well but gonna be poorer than you a bit lol
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At the end of the day these threads have and will be done to death over and over again and we'll see the same people's opinions over and over again but also there'll be new people throwing new light onto it also which is interesting. If you don't agree with the thread it's simple, just avoid it.
Anyway back to the debate............As said above i also dont care much for the styling of the R32, I really dont like the front end and the wheels :sick: although I do really like the rear bumper set up.
Ever since the Mk5 came out I have always said that I prefer the Gti in looks way ahead of the R32. However on the Mk6 its the R I prefer to the Gti.
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Got to agree the R32 is some what bland from the front,but vw has made up for that as you get to the rear...oh how i like a good rear :drinking: ideal world gti front/R32 rear mated to a four wheel drive turbo engine now thats a mk5 we would surely all be interested in lol
Dougie :happy2:
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It's snowing here in Surrey, so I'll take the R32 today thanks!
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Got to agree the R32 is some what bland from the front,but vw has made up for that as you get to the rear...oh how i like a good rear :drinking: ideal world gti front/R32 rear mated to a four wheel drive turbo engine now thats a mk5 we would surely all be interested in lol
Dougie :happy2:
what you described is the Mk6 R just about
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what you described is the Mk6 R just about
Or an 8P S3 for considerably less £££'s.
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what you described is the Mk6 R just about
Or an 8P S3 for considerably less £££'s.
i fear i might start a whole new debate here, but i don't think the S3 is as nice as the Golf R!
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what you described is the Mk6 R just about
Or an 8P S3 for considerably less £££'s.
i fear i might start a whole new debate here, but i don't think the S3 is as nice as the Golf R!
yesshhh, lets go off on a tangent and discuss whether the RS3 is better than the R :laugh:
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what you described is the Mk6 R just about
Or an 8P S3 for considerably less £££'s.
i fear i might start a whole new debate here, but i don't think the S3 is as nice as the Golf R!
yesshhh, lets go off on a tangent and discuss whether the RS3 is better than the R :laugh:
get a lightly used TT-RS and a Mk5 GT TDI with the change. best of both worlds with less compromises.
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In an ideal world I'd keep my K03 GTi for summer, and have a mk4 R32 for winter. Beautiful cars. You can keep the Mk5 R32 Passat/Golf Hybrid!
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Mmmmm Golf R...now that would do just fine lol
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i fear i might start a whole new debate here, but i don't think the S3 is as nice as the Golf R!
Its not, but you can pick up an 8P S3 for £11-12k, ie similar money to an Ed30, but with the benefit of the Haldex.
A Golf R is considerably more money, for very similar underpinnings iirc.
Only issue is with the S3 is that it looks like a box on wheels, Audi designers are even lazier than Porsche ones.
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are we saying now that Golf R has nicer interior than Audi S3??? :signLOL:
I thought Audi is higher up in VW food chain than VW brand?? Maybe it's cause S3 is old now and R is new one? Need to see one to believe but s3 has deffo better materials than mark 6 that I am certain!
All is subjective in such threads as always!
Paul
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^^^
RNS 510 is better than RNS-E. the Mk6 multifunction wheel is better than the 8P MFSW. And the Mk6 FIS is compatible with Polar FIS and Audi bits aren't. Plus the Mk6 comes with a lot of kit as standard which you have to pay for on the 8P
I think the 8P's materials are arguably better, but in terms of pure functionality there really is no contest imho