MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: paul_brad on December 04, 2012, 04:40:23 pm
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hi all,
in the market for an edition 30 possibly, and just wondered on what your take was on the price of them.
I realise they're more special than standard, but the cost of what most people are asking for them seems out of whack compared to standard GTIs. Do they actually sell for these prices?
Typically advertised up to and beyond 12k for 2007/2008 cars often. Is it just the initial hopeful proud seller moment, followed by reality check, or do they get bought and sold at these prices?
It seems strange that the cost-when-new price difference is kept or even increased when the car is worth less than half it's original value.
Do 25th mark 4's still do the same today? I remember looking at them a few years ago and decided I couldn't justify the extra.
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I'm also looking one and found basically £10k-£12k will get you a hell of nice one. As for them being more expensive, you get what you pay for mate, better engine, turbo, looks, lot more tuneable and will defo keep good value if there kept clean, anything over £12k I think is excessive but defo worth that bit extra then standard GTI for sure. There a grey dsg one on here I want just a little of £ at minute soon I will have one
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To be honest, I think the people who think the Edition 30 is depreciation-proof are deluded.
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Being an ED30 owner my view may be somewhat "Rose Tinted" but i would suggest that with the VAG badge you do get some increase in price just for the badge. The GTI with its history too will give another addition to its cost . This together with the limited edition version of the ED30 adds upto quite an increase in what might be the perceived cost . You have to look at what else you could get with the Street Cred , performance and tunability for £9-13k . These are my extremes for a 90k 2007 plate to a 58 plate 30k miler. They will all be between these prices unless there are other reasons to be slightly higher or lower , like Cat D , added after market extras , like some you see. now i might get my head bitten off here but i would never buy a modified car unless all the original parts come with it and also the "How has it been driven" question hanging over the decision . Also the service history is of great importance so records of its history are a must , not just the stamp in the book but the invoice . Books can be stamped by anyone at any Vw Garage (virtually) and can add hundreds to the value .
I could sell mine now as i don't really use it , but i get such a buzz when i drive it that i cannot see me selling it yet . Also i would need to spend several thousand more on a 2010 S3 S4 Avant which is all i see myself having after this , the extra would be £6 - £15k ! Mines only done 20k (well it will have next week )
Well worth the extra i say and in 5 door it is so vesatile .
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Yeah, just worried that justifying to myself that they're worth the extra with nice wheels, bumpers, half leather etc etc - is different to the reality of 'what they're actually worth' Which at the end of the day was 2k more on a £23k car.
Its also galling to pay £11k when you see Parkers rate them as being worth 9k ish.
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Glasses/Parkers etc are ok for Vectra/Mondeo/Micra/Focus type stuff but there are loads of them about . Easy to value , Limited Run stuff never really fits into their system. What is a couple of grand anyway when you will have what you want and a bit above what some book says you must pay . I know people who buy clothes (Designer Stuff) when its released in Summer/Autumn Ranges ie Gant/Ralph Lauren/Tommy Hilfiger etc and pay top dollar . Six months later you can get the same stuff for half the price...... Each to their own i say
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Well the simplest solution is to try and purchase a nice one for very little money. I think you will find it harder than you think.
Having owned both a Gti and an Ed30 I can verify that the latter is a lot quicker and driveable than a standard GTi. It's nice to have that bit of exclusivity.
If you aren't too fussed about the extra cred and performance of the 30, then go a little the other way and get a nice TDi or even a Fiesta. What I'm trying to say is "yer pays yer money".
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Yes, understood - happy to pay in my own mind -
just wanted to be sure what people thought on 'true value' really and whether we're all being suckered into a premium that is artificially created.
No one wants to pay a special premium for something that in a few years time has crashed back to earth to normal standards is all.
Anyway, thanks for the input, appreciated! :grin:
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Having owned both a Gti and an Ed30 I can verify that the latter is a lot quicker and driveable than a standard GTi. It's nice to have that bit of exclusivity.
How is it more "driveable"? If anything I've found the standard GTI easier to drive in normal situations because the boost comes on earlier...
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i paid 7700 for a 5 door dsg ed30 80kmiles one owner good condition. to the trade an ed 30 is not worth that much
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Don't give it to the trade is the easy answer . £7700 for an Ed30 mmm . Rather you than me :surprised: :innocent:
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I preferred the 'look' of the ed30 over the stock GTI but I've been lucky in buying one that had lots of the ED30 bits already
From a look alone perspective (IE not pricing the engine upgrades) the ED30 bits are approx:
BBS Pescara Wheels - £600 (plus tyres)
Splitter - £150
Sills - £150
Rear lower bumper - £200
Seats and door cards - £800+
Gear shifter - £100 (if you can find one!)
Hand brake - £60
Steering wheel - £300
Rear lights - £180
Thats £2540+ painting just to make it LOOK the same.
Then engine upgrades for the GTI to ED30 spec are another couple of grand from what I understand.
If I hadn't found my GTI will most of the bits already fitted I would have waited for a good ED30 to come up as I thing the GTI looks too standard for my taste.
Is it going to hold it value more... no... is it worth its premium price... IMO... yes it justifies it in looks and performance.
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had both the gti and edition 30 at one point and drove them back to back for three to four months until I sold the gti, the gti had revo stage 1 remap and drove like a dream hardly no lag and handled fine, excellent on b roads and bypass sprints, the edition 30 also stage 1 revo remap was not as lively low in the rev range due to the extra lag, but pulled like a train al the way to the red line, where the gti would run out off puff by 5400 rpm, interior and the wheels on the ed30 are better in my opinion, and also budget for a clutch if you map the ed30. Out of both cars if I had the choice again I would get a high spec gti and map it, just my opinion, hope this helps
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had both the gti and edition 30 at one point and drove them back to back for three to four months until I sold the gti, the gti had revo stage 1 remap and drove like a dream hardly no lag and handled fine, excellent on b roads and bypass sprints, the edition 30 also stage 1 revo remap was not as lively low in the rev range due to the extra lag, but pulled like a train al the way to the red line, where the gti would run out off puff by 5400 rpm, interior and the wheels on the ed30 are better in my opinion, and also budget for a clutch if you map the ed30. Out of both cars if I had the choice again I would get a high spec gti and map it, just my opinion, hope this helps
Me too but hey I'm a Volvo owner now ha ha
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To be honest with the budget you have mentioned I'd push for a Pirelli! :happy2:
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Don't give it to the trade is the easy answer . £7700 for an Ed30 mmm . Rather you than me :surprised: :innocent:
nuffin wrong with it. was a trade in for a new golf r. plus its one women owner with full history. ed30 are not worth what people are asking
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To be honest with the budget you have mentioned I'd push for a Pirelli! :happy2:
At least with a Pirelli you get exclusivity. Oh and them gorgeous wheels :drool:
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i think this one is very reasonably priced
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,55961.0.html
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Glasses/Parkers etc are ok for Vectra/Mondeo/Micra/Focus type stuff but there are loads of them about . Easy to value , Limited Run stuff never really fits into their system. What is a couple of grand anyway when you will have what you want and a bit above what some book says you must pay . I know people who buy clothes (Designer Stuff) when its released in Summer/Autumn Ranges ie Gant/Ralph Lauren/Tommy Hilfiger etc and pay top dollar . Six months later you can get the same stuff for half the price...... Each to their own i say
Parkers are a waste of time for Edition 30's (Like garrardrj said they value them like million of them on the road Mondeos), Glass's guide gives a value of £13k (give or take £100) on a 45K well specced DSG Edition 30 "08" plate in "Clean" condition (Clean meaning average for a 4+ year old car), I think the fact that there are only 2300 of them helps the values quite a bit and only 864 of them are DSG models so you can see it's hard to find the car you want (took me 6 months).
Good luck in your search :happy2:
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glasses/parkers are all a fix anyway since the recession kicked in.
for those that are happy to trade in a car then the loss of a few extra £k wont really hurt. I was told my car is worth £6200 trade..... yes of course it is mate, when you have a similar model on your forecourt for £11k :jumpmove:
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Got told mine was worth £9650 trade and the trader would then put it up for £13995, would probably be the easiest £3.5k he ever made :signLOL:
I have never traded a car in (Don't see the point of losing £2.5-3K), altho I am lucky enough to have use of 2 other cars when time comes to sell mine :happy2:
Having spoken to a friend in the car industry he told me quite clearly that used car values are increasing due to the economy as more people than previously have done are buying used cars rather than new (Supply and demand!).
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glasses/parkers are all a fix anyway since the recession kicked in.
for those that are happy to trade in a car then the loss of a few extra £k wont really hurt. I was told my car is worth £6200 trade..... yes of course it is mate, when you have a similar model on your forecourt for £11k :jumpmove:
Rarely in my life does a dealer offer a good deal to the person p/ex any car whatever it may be . Dealers are **************** .
You can fill in the blank depending on your past experience . I was severely put off by my first experience . I bought a Cavailer Coupe Automatic for £6495 in 1983 , didn't like AUTOMATIC after 2 weeks so went back to swop it for the Cavailer Coupe they also had on their forecourt at £6295 , i offered them £200 aswell . They said they wanted £1750 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and would not take the car back any other way . Never bought another car off a dealer till i bought my Ed30 in 2010 .
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To be honest, I think the people who think the Edition 30 is depreciation-proof are deluded.
Another useful post :happy2: :stupid:
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
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glasses/parkers are all a fix anyway since the recession kicked in.
for those that are happy to trade in a car then the loss of a few extra £k wont really hurt. I was told my car is worth £6200 trade..... yes of course it is mate, when you have a similar model on your forecourt for £11k :jumpmove:
Rarely in my life does a dealer offer a good deal to the person p/ex any car whatever it may be . Dealers are **************** .
You can fill in the blank depending on your past experience . I was severely put off by my first experience . I bought a Cavailer Coupe Automatic for £6495 in 1983 , didn't like AUTOMATIC after 2 weeks so went back to swop it for the Cavailer Coupe they also had on their forecourt at £6295 , i offered them £200 aswell . They said they wanted £1750 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and would not take the car back any other way . Never bought another car off a dealer till i bought my Ed30 in 2010 .
I'm not going to defend dealers, some are absolute cretins. But they are there to make money, simple really.
I've always taken the view that its more hassle to sell a car privately, and the value that comes from buying from a dealer is pure peace of mind. It won't make me rich granted!
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
Calling people Ed30 owners deluded fella, isn't really gonna go down well is it :stupid:
If someone wants your car, in the spec they want, and your car has all the toys, and specs you require, it's in good condition, with receipts to back up your asking price, being that there are a lot less of them determines to a private buyer whether its worth paying the extra..
After owning now 3 GTi mk5's, I'd save the extra for a limited run version.
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glasses/parkers are all a fix anyway since the recession kicked in.
for those that are happy to trade in a car then the loss of a few extra £k wont really hurt. I was told my car is worth £6200 trade..... yes of course it is mate, when you have a similar model on your forecourt for £11k :jumpmove:
Rarely in my life does a dealer offer a good deal to the person p/ex any car whatever it may be . Dealers are **************** .
You can fill in the blank depending on your past experience . I was severely put off by my first experience . I bought a Cavailer Coupe Automatic for £6495 in 1983 , didn't like AUTOMATIC after 2 weeks so went back to swop it for the Cavailer Coupe they also had on their forecourt at £6295 , i offered them £200 aswell . They said they wanted £1750 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and would not take the car back any other way . Never bought another car off a dealer till i bought my Ed30 in 2010 .
I'm not going to defend dealers, some are absolute cretins. But they are there to make money, simple really.
I've always taken the view that its more hassle to sell a car privately, and the value that comes from buying from a dealer is pure peace of mind. It won't make me rich granted!
To be honest for £3k i am more than happy to deal with the hassle of selling a car :signLOL:
ON the note about Ed30's being depreciation proof, they are not, but they sure hold their money better than a lot of cars
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
Calling people Ed30 owners deluded fella, isn't really gonna go down well is it :stupid:
If someone wants your car, in the spec they want, and your car has all the toys, and specs you require, it's in good condition, with receipts to back up your asking price, being that there are a lot less of them determines to a private buyer whether its worth paying the extra..
After owning now 3 GTi mk5's, I'd save the extra for a limited run version.
If it's the right car, colour, right amount of doors and high spec you need (very small amount of them exist) then its going to go to someone who wants that car and will pay what he (and the seller) are happy with.
Just because one guy sells his "Poverty Spec" edition 30 with high miles does not mean the guy with a low mileage well specced car is selling it cheap :happy2:
It will ultimately be worth what someone is prepared to pay for it :wink:
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Well i have never had any trouble selling my old cars as they are always fantastic buys. I have had about 20 and have got what i ask for them everytime , i ask what its worth not some fictitious figure i pluck out of the sky to try and get more money . I do not do the ono or ovno either , i think that tells the prospective buyer i'm not serious about the price in the first place :innocent:
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
Calling people Ed30 owners deluded fella, isn't really gonna go down well is it :stupid:
And neither is twisting my comments. What are you, a tabloid journalist? :signLOL:
There is a certain camp of Edition 30 owners who seem to think that they've bought into exclusivity, that their car isn't going to lose value like other cars. I personally think they're wrong, and the trade supports this. Granted there will always be people that are willing to pay more for the right car (and good on them), but to say an Edition 30 holds its value "well" just isn't right. In my opinion of course.
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
Calling people Ed30 owners deluded fella, isn't really gonna go down well is it :stupid:
And neither is twisting my comments. What are you, a tabloid journalist? :signLOL:
There is a certain camp of Edition 30 owners who seem to think that they've bought into exclusivity, that their car isn't going to lose value like other cars. I personally think they're wrong, and the trade supports this. Granted there will always be people that are willing to pay more for the right car (and good on them), but to say an Edition 30 holds its value "well" just isn't right. In my opinion of course.
Didn't twist anything Andrew.. just past you your shovel to keep digging the hole your digging yourself recently :signLOL:
Just kidding...
I'm sure all mk5 owners realise that no matter what type of car you own,is gonna loose in value, some quicker then others.
And as you correctly say, in our own opinion. :wink:
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If it's the right car, colour, right amount of doors and high spec you need (very small amount of them exist) then its going to go to someone who wants that car and will pay what he (and the seller) are happy with.
Just because one guy sells his "Poverty Spec" edition 30 with high miles does not mean the guy with a low mileage well specced car is selling it cheap :happy2:
It will ultimately be worth what someone is prepared to pay for it :wink:
I agree completely. I am suspicious that there is less and less of "the right car" around too. With age comes more owners and more miles. There is going to be a point where the Limited Edition status means less and less.
I'm also wary that the MK6 is becoming more and more attainable around the £15k mark, and many potential buyers would plump for the newer car.
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If it's the right car, colour, right amount of doors and high spec you need (very small amount of them exist) then its going to go to someone who wants that car and will pay what he (and the seller) are happy with.
Just because one guy sells his "Poverty Spec" edition 30 with high miles does not mean the guy with a low mileage well specced car is selling it cheap :happy2:
It will ultimately be worth what someone is prepared to pay for it :wink:
I agree completely. I am suspicious that there is less and less of "the right car" around too. With age comes more owners and more miles. There is going to be a point where the Limited Edition status means less and less.
I'm also wary that the MK6 is becoming more and more attainable around the £15k mark, and many potential buyers would plump for the newer car.
Agree the mk6 is now a very good purchase option :happy2:
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It is.. but you just get a run of the mill gti... i like the fact that I might only see 1 other ed30 per month... if that!
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
Calling people Ed30 owners deluded fella, isn't really gonna go down well is it :stupid:
And neither is twisting my comments. What are you, a tabloid journalist? :signLOL:
There is a certain camp of Edition 30 owners who seem to think that they've bought into exclusivity, that their car isn't going to lose value like other cars. I personally think they're wrong, and the trade supports this. Granted there will always be people that are willing to pay more for the right car (and good on them), but to say an Edition 30 holds its value "well" just isn't right. In my opinion of course.
Didn't twist anything Andrew.. just past you your shovel to keep digging the hole your digging yourself recently :signLOL:
I beg to differ. You said "calling Ed30 owners deluded...", whereas I said "people who think the Edition 30 is depreciation-proof are deluded". So in actual fact I said noting about Edition 30 owners. Perhaps you read what you wanted to, not what was actual read.
Oh, and mustn't forget the obligatory smilie :wink:
Anyway, lets move on, I haven't the energy for this.
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It is.. but you just get a run of the mill gti... i like the fact that I might only see 1 other ed30 per month... if that!
You're not wrong, but many people (boring people like myself!) make these decisions more logically. By default I'd always go newer and less miles, even regardless of spec.
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
Calling people Ed30 owners deluded fella, isn't really gonna go down well is it :stupid:
And neither is twisting my comments. What are you, a tabloid journalist? :signLOL:
There is a certain camp of Edition 30 owners who seem to think that they've bought into exclusivity, that their car isn't going to lose value like other cars. I personally think they're wrong, and the trade supports this. Granted there will always be people that are willing to pay more for the right car (and good on them), but to say an Edition 30 holds its value "well" just isn't right. In my opinion of course.
Didn't twist anything Andrew.. just past you your shovel to keep digging the hole your digging yourself recently :signLOL:
I beg to differ. You said "calling Ed30 owners deluded...", whereas I said "people who think the Edition 30 is depreciation-proof are deluded". So in actual fact I said noting about Edition 30 owners. Perhaps you read what you wanted to, not what was actual read.
Oh, and mustn't forget the obligatory smilie :wink:
Anyway, lets move on, I haven't the energy for this.
Written :innocent:
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Good man, I'll give myself twenty lashes for that later on :drinking:
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It is.. but you just get a run of the mill gti... i like the fact that I might only see 1 other ed30 per month... if that!
You're not wrong, but many people (boring people like myself!) make these decisions more logically. By default I'd always go newer and less miles, even regardless of spec.
I did both... i bought my ed30 with 13k on the clock. :love:
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Stop being a tosser Steve. It's valid point.
Calling people Ed30 owners deluded fella, isn't really gonna go down well is it :stupid:
And neither is twisting my comments. What are you, a tabloid journalist? :signLOL:
There is a certain camp of Edition 30 owners who seem to think that they've bought into exclusivity, that their car isn't going to lose value like other cars. I personally think they're wrong, and the trade supports this. Granted there will always be people that are willing to pay more for the right car (and good on them), but to say an Edition 30 holds its value "well" just isn't right. In my opinion of course.
Didn't twist anything Andrew.. just past you your shovel to keep digging the hole your digging yourself recently :signLOL:
I beg to differ. You said "calling Ed30 owners deluded...", whereas I said "people who think the Edition 30 is depreciation-proof are deluded". So in actual fact I said noting about Edition 30 owners. Perhaps you read what you wanted to, not what was actual read.
Oh, and mustn't forget the obligatory smilie :wink:
Anyway, lets move on, I haven't the energy for this.
Good man, I'll give myself twenty lashes for that later on :drinking:
Nice to see you've found the energy :indifferent:
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It is.. but you just get a run of the mill gti... i like the fact that I might only see 1 other ed30 per month... if that!
You're not wrong, but many people (boring people like myself!) make these decisions more logically. By default I'd always go newer and less miles, even regardless of spec.
Well if someone looking for an edition 30 decides to buy a "Run of the mill" Mk6 GTI for a couple of grand more he clearly did not want an Edition 30 in the first place, I decided on an edition 30 7 months before I bought mine and it took me almost all of that time to find one I wanted with the spec I wanted (there are many higher mileage or lower spec Ed30's around, not many high spec low milers around (richwig's and a few other members cars excluded of course). :happy2:
I have only ever seen 1 other Edition 30 in Cornwall since miving here in August (a Black 3 dr Poverty spec) :signLOL:
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Mines not low any more.. 60k now.... OOPS!
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Just to add my two pence to this....I have owned a 25th Anniversary and now a proud owner of an Edition 30. I love the way they look, they are both head turners and yes I did pay the premium for both...purely because like any other was after a mint condition motor and the whole exclusive thing about it. Now...they do depreciate but not like a standard GTi by far. I owned my anniversary for 5 years and lost near enough 1k on depreciation on it a year. I paid 10.5k 5 years ago for a 5 year old car. Considering it was heavily modified diesel (hybrid turbo, miltek etc etc) and over 121k on the clock by the time I was done I sold it within 3 days of putting it up for sale! Putting aside the mods, a 1k drop a year isn't too bad.
Baring that in mind, an Edition 30 is about 4-5 Years old now and going for similar prices as the Anni 5 years ago, so hopefully the trend stays the same going forward. I guess the only argument is that the Edition 30 is a petrol and generally Diesels tend to hold their value a bit. Time will tell I guess!
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Mines not low any more.. 60k now.... OOPS!
Mine is 200 miles short of 48K as of today and it will be sold in the next month or two as I dont fancy doing the drive (and adding best part of 4000 miles and £1150 in fuel bills) to Ischgl and Solden (Austria) in my Edition 30 in February and April, one of my mates does not drive the other has a Porsche 911 and my best mate has a 3 seat Van (No good for 4 of us) plus more room for my golf clubs in boot) and more fuel economy as I am now doing 250 miles per week rather than the 40-50 miles per week before the house move. :happy2:
If I could afford to have both cars I would, but I cannot.
Edition 30 moving on :sad1: (Hopefully to a caring new owner) BMW 320D M Sport workhorse (2010 model 184bhp) arriving :happy2:
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IM gonna keep mine for as long as possible.... cant afford to change it and dont want to. :happy2:
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wow, all kicking off on this thread then!
I think I'd be happy with a base spec one, as they come with half leather heated seats by default.
Rear sensors would be good but can live without, cruise I hardly ever have the chance to use, sat nav would be retrofitted and so is the only must.
Now the small matter of selling my 330 convertible... maybe I should wait for the first shoots of spring at least... but that's another argument!
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Did the Edition 30 come with highline as standard?
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Did the Edition 30 come with highline as standard?
No, unless it was either spec'd separately... or spec'd with sat nav.
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for what its worth I waited a long time for mine to come up... but then im fussy. Wanted a certain spec and had to be one of 2 colours only. I was happy to pay a little bit more that some of the other ones around at the time.
was offered one much cheaper which had been ragged to death by a couple of guys at my gym.... obviously turned this down, but whoever bought it didnt quite get the bargain they though they did.
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IM gonna keep mine for as long as possible.... cant afford to change it and dont want to. :happy2:
ditto.
99% of cars depreciate. the gti less than your average car. the ed30 less than the gti. the true ltd edition pirelli less than the ed30.
just buy what you want and drive the fricking thing and enjoy it, a car is not an investment
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wow, all kicking off on this thread then!
I think I'd be happy with a base spec one, as they come with half leather heated seats by default.
Rear sensors would be good but can live without, cruise I hardly ever have the chance to use, sat nav would be retrofitted and so is the only must.
Now the small matter of selling my 330 convertible... maybe I should wait for the first shoots of spring at least... but that's another argument!
I can't live without cruise control (heavy right foot coupled with a car that likes to cruise at over 100) and parking sensors are nice to have, as are Xenons (rather than the standard candles), armrest is comfy for longer journeys and auto lights/wipers is usefull as are heated mirrors and washer jets in the winter, the thing I could live without is the RNS510 and yes you can get it retro-fitted (probably around £600+ to do that tho.
MFSW is the thing I probably most use :happy2:
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Did the Edition 30 come with highline as standard?
Think highline was an option £85 springs to mind :happy2:
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When new the Ed30 was about £2K more than a 'normal' GTi.
In late 2006/early 2007 when I was making the move to a Mk5 Golf GTi. I'm kinda glad I went for the Ed30.
Didn't know about the KO4 fitment back then, so made my judgement purely on spec and the 'want' factor I got after driving one.
Would have probably been chuffed with a standard GTi but really thought I was gonna keep this car for a while so bought the 'limited' version.
Bought it in the colour/spec I wanted (with budget limits), rather than the black or grey the saleman tried to get me to order.
So in March '07 mine was a really rare colour, 3 dr Candy White, with sunroof (£515) and Xenons (£725).
Now approaching 6 years and still think it's great. Two years down the slippery modding.
So cannot see a point in selling it, therefore at this stage not especially worried about depreciation, then when/if it gets sold, it's worth what it's worth then.
Probably 50p by then.
To those looking for Ed30 or a Mk6 GTi enjoy the searching and hope you find a cracking car and good price.
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When a couple of us went on the VW, Mk6 GTI launch they mentioned sales figures for all previous carnations of the GTI. I cant remember them all but i seem to remember figures for the Mk 2 and the Mk 5. The Mk2 sold something like 18000 in the UK and 5000 ish Mk 5's.
If i have remembered the numbers correct that makes 2200 ED30's and around 3000 GTI's. So the Eddie can hardly be called exclusive.
You have to remember 95% of owners are not enthusiasts like us lot and dont even know the differences between a GTI and a ED30 apart from the wheels. The second hand values are based on a percentage of the new price cost + a little bit for perceived better spec and colour.
You only have to look at our car sale section to know that nearly all owners of GTI's and ED 30's ask more than they will realistically get as it is human nature. It is only a lump of metal but to it's owners it holds lots of memories and is a reflection of our status in society.
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When a couple of us went on the VW, Mk6 GTI launch they mentioned sales figures for all previous carnations of the GTI. I cant remember them all but i seem to remember figures for the Mk 2 and the Mk 5. The Mk2 sold something like 18000 in the UK and 5000 ish Mk 5's.
If i have remembered the numbers correct that makes 2200 ED30's and around 3000 GTI's. So the Eddie can hardly be called exclusive.
You have to remember 95% of owners are not enthusiasts like us lot and dont even know the differences between a GTI and a ED30 apart from the wheels. The second hand values are based on a percentage of the new price cost + a little bit for perceived better spec and colour.
You only have to look at our car sale section to know that nearly all owners of GTI's and ED 30's ask more than they will realistically get as it is human nature. It is only a lump of metal but to it's owners it holds lots of memories and is a reflection of our status in society.
According to howmanyleft website there are 4021 GTI's on the road and 2139 Edition 30's (although in 18 months of knowing about Edition 30's I have only ever seen 4 of them against many many GTI's so I guess that most Edition 30 owners must not use them much :grin:
Enthusiast owned cars agreed, people buy an Ed30 as they know its different to std GTI, second hand values based on a %age, bit of a sweeping statement there, would love to pick up a ferrari 250GTO for a percentage of its original £15K price tag :grin:
On a more serious note, as a sweeping generalisation thats how many car valuers value cars a percentage after 3 years with depreciation each year further to that (Ed30's are supposed to be valued at 51% of origninal purchase price after 3 years), but in reality the more a car is coveted/collected/demand outstrips supply you get higher prices.
Std Price £23045 (5dr)
DSG £1080
Sat Nav £1845 (Includes NAV, Armrest and Highline)
MFD £395
Winter Pack £225
Luxury Pack £100
Privacy Glass £175
Bi-Xenons £750
Reverse Parking Sensors £370
Sunroof £515
Cruise Control £270
TPMS £ ??
Rear Side Airbag System £235
So that makes a well specced original price 5dr ED30 £29045 compared to a Poverty Spec 5dr Ed30's £23045, based on your percentage values that makes a well specced Eddie 25% more valuable than a poverty spec, add in colour (we all know RED/Black and Silver colours cover a large %age of the Ed30's, surely making Candy White and Steel Grey "rarer"), mileage and service history factored in and you have vastly differing prices for Ed30's, just my tuppence worth :happy2:
If someone is looking for a basic spec Black.Red or Silver Edition 30 they have a few to choose from, someone looking for a White or Grey car will have much less to choose from. :happy2:
Most people who want a Golf GTI will buy one (it's want they want, heart rules head), those that are wanting an Edition 30 know it's different :wink:
Another way of looking at the "Rarity" is not just down to how many made, for buyers it is how many are for sale at any given time (when they are looking to buy) for standard Golf GTI's there are usually anywhere from 200-350 on sale on autotrader/Ebay at any one time on the other hand there are usually only around 18-25 Edition 30's :happy2:
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Incidentally, this came up on ebay yesterday - classified ad ended by the end of the day!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Volkswagen-Golf-2-0T-3dr-GTI-Edition-30-Only-42000-miles-Stunning-Car-/290825308899?nma=true&si=XzklwJHG05NEUC9Jfv2TgVinWvc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
With a retrofit sat nav, would be great.
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That's a nice car and I think £10995 for an 07 3dr with 2 options is probably on the money, some person is driving with a smile on their face :happy2:
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That car was also on ebay at the weekend
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I thought I saw it last week myself (Keeping an eye on prices as mine will be sold soon) :happy2:
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all well, probably the ebay new item alert emailer running a few days after it's listed then...
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That's a nice car and I think £10995 for an 07 3dr with 2 options is probably on the money, some person is driving with a smile on their face :happy2:
I noted a few more than 2, but not a bad price anyway.
xenons
highline
mfsw
armrest
sunroof
parking sensors
metalic paint(?)
heated seats (?)
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Whats the real world going rate for an early MK6 nowadays then?
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Whats the real world going rate for an early MK6 nowadays then?
There are some good deals to be had...... just stay away from my old one :signLOL:
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You can have my stage 2+ car for £10k ;-)