MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Phil Miller on December 05, 2012, 10:18:27 am
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First off Hello everyone, its been a very long time :happy2: hope everyone is well
Now ive got a major headache with a 53 plate touran, below is everything i know inc a scan, here goes
Car was recovered into a local garage with non start issues the day after alot of heavy rain
They didnt have a clue and bought it to use (VW indy)
first off i done a complete scan and found faults in almost every controller, most of them are no comms codes
the touran wouldnt start at all
Fuse F7 was blown so replaced that and it blkow as soon as the ign was switched on, the cause of this is the clutch unit on the bulk head has a melted terminal
Anyway it still wouldnt start but now when the ign is turned off the dash stays lit up with the key in your hand :confused:
If i disconnect the battery for a couple of minutes and reconnect the engine will start, the dash has a fit saying no oil pressure and the ABS,ESP,P/Steering lights are all on, im now at the point im not sure where to go next and was hoping someone could suggest something, maybe a fresh outlook on it?
here is the scan
Wednesday,05,December,2012,09:56:13:01263
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4
Data version: 20120807
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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ4W064840 Mileage: 327230km/203331miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached
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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 CB
Component: Climatic PQ35 050 0201
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 66C30ADB51632228BB9
4 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 F HW: 1K0 937 049 F*
Component: PQ35 BordnetzSG 1.0 0501
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: 00000000180914
Coding: 00890F000004100000120C000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 326BA68BAD2B8E88E71
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 B Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer WWS A-MPV 0201
Coding: 16711828
Shop #: WSC 00000
5 Faults Found:
02397 - Parking Light Right Rear (M2)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01064 - Terminal 58d; Interior Dimming
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
02396 - Parking Light Left Rear (M4)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A HW: 1K0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 306FAC83A327BC98915
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1T0 920 960 C
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1714
Coding: 0003401
Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
VCID: 326BA68BAD2B8E88E71
4 Faults Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-815-071.clb
Part No: 1K0 815 071 M
Component: Zuheizer 020 1312
Revision: A Serial number: 09010046
Coding: 0000011
Shop #: WSC 00425 210 83566
VCID: 2F6DAFFFBE19A36088F
5 Faults Found:
02085 - Incorrect Control Module Installed
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 122
Mileage: 254371 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:12:20
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 122
Mileage: 254371 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:12:20
00664 - Fuel gauge
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 81
Reset counter: 71
Mileage: 523818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 24:08:46
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 114
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 458303 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:00:19
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H08 0080
Revision: 08 Serial number: 210010382219BC
Coding: 3D3F1340078003
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 275D47DF96E9FB2040F
6 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 72
Mileage: 327231 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:13:10
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 327231 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 02:55:15
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 327231 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 02:55:15
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 327231 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 02:55:15
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 327231 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 02:55:15
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 327231 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 02:55:15
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1T0 920 960 C
Component: IMMO 1714
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 326BA68BAD2B8E88E71
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1T0 959 701
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0111
Coding: 0000116
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: F4E7E09397BF40B8B5D
2 Faults Found:
01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 C
Component: KSG 0201
Coding: 01E802087F2D8505485F0610
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 306FAC83A327BC98915
Part No: 1K0 951 605 A
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H01 1201
9 Faults Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
013 - Check DTC Memory
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1T0 959 702
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0111
Coding: 0000116
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: F5E1DD979CC559B0823
1 Fault Found:
01812 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Pass. Side (J387)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 D
Component: Radio BNO 0218
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 275D47DF96E9FB2040F
2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
00856 - Radio Antenna
011 - Open Circuit
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 B
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 05 0107
Coding: 0000048
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 2F6DAFFFBE19A36088F
1 Fault Found:
01813 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Left (J388)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 B
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 05 0107
Coding: 0000048
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 306FAC83A327BC98915
1 Fault Found:
01814 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Right (J389)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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like i said the heavy rain may be a red herron, any help would be great :happy2:
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Glad to see your back posting Phil-that is one he'll of a list of faults !is it likely the ecu has chucked a wobbly
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Thank you mate :happy2:
I'm not sure I'm thinking maybe the can gateways has spat it's dummy out but I'm almost at the point of running out of ideas now :(
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When my 55 plate TDI had symptoms of not starting and a scan showed arterial modules 'Cannot be reached' - it was a faulty engine ECU.
Fuses popping etc would point me to a damaged cable, but good luck finding that! I'd start in the CECM area.
Also, welcome back.
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I'm thinking the can is fooked or as you said a damaged wire, I've got the gateway out I'm gonna have another look in a bit and see what's what, the bit that gets me is I would have thought the immo would have issues aswell but its code free
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I would try the gateway, make sure it is getting power. Also if you have an old one try that in there
Even with an ECU issue the gateway will work, I have a gateway wired up in my indoor set up
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Thank you Ed
I've just tried a good can gateway and still the same, code I have in the engine is 18056 power train data bus failure???
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sounds like a wiring issue then
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sounds like a wiring issue then
Power or earth issue.
Check all relays too.
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Would check the for an earth fault using a jump lead from the battery earth on to the engine and other body chassis positions.
:driver:
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Check the E-box (fuse box under the bonnet) hasnt got water ingress in it !!!
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The clue you give us of the errors comming after some serious rain leads me to think you might have the holes leading rain front the front window into the wheelarches is blocked and you then have had water in through the hole in the seperation plate between engine room and the passengerside of the car, and it has shortcircuited some boxes inside the car. My wife had water inside the car after these holes was clogged. So any water inside the car then??
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The clue you give us of the errors comming after some serious rain leads me to think you might have the holes leading rain front the front window into the wheelarches is blocked and you then have had water in through the hole in the seperation plate between engine room and the passengerside of the car, and it has shortcircuited some boxes inside the car. My wife had water inside the car after these holes was clogged. So any water inside the car then??
Had similar issues with ours and turned out to be a fused wire on the engine loom.