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Title: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scooba on December 06, 2012, 07:57:15 am
Hi ,

Would any one have a idea off the cost to paint a mk5 gti front end ? ,I am thinking in the spring off having the bumper and both wings and bonnet and mirrors repainted ,its just after 4 and a half years of small chips etc ,I just want her back to her best.

Any body have ideas of cost ?  £1000 ?


TIA
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: jimojameso on December 06, 2012, 08:07:12 am
I had my old car done for 400. That was wings, bonnet and bumper. Just to get rid of the stone chips.  :happy2:
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 06, 2012, 08:29:24 am
Shouldnt think your looking at that much mate, maybe sur 500 reigon?

Ive just had the mrs's ibiza done full respray at £600 - a brilliant mates rate price but it puts in perspective how much profit they bloody make cos it would of cost over double that!!
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scooba on December 06, 2012, 05:12:51 pm
Hi

I want a proper Bumper off and lights out job ,I want a good job and am so anal id like the bumper and splitter split all the head light washer covers painted seperate and reassembled so its like new ,I dont mind if it cost a bit more as ong as it right .



Any one have a painter in Sussex they would Recommend

TIA
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Saintsteve on December 06, 2012, 06:04:18 pm
I would budget £500-£600 for a good estimate. Though respray is really last resort IMO.

You will never get back to factory finish if you know what your looking for.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Oli on December 06, 2012, 06:53:48 pm
I would think max 500-600, our paintshop could do this.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scottm72 on December 06, 2012, 07:32:26 pm
I would budget £500-£600 for a good estimate. Though respray is really last resort IMO.

You will never get back to factory finish if you know what your looking for.
on a proper respray job like the guy is looking for why would it not get back to factory finish esp with and chips etc gone, I would have thought this is what you are paying for ?
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: MC71 on December 06, 2012, 07:37:05 pm
I would budget £500-£600 for a good estimate. Though respray is really last resort IMO.

You will never get back to factory finish if you know what your looking for.


That's what worries me about getting a selected area resprayed.


I have been looking into this myself although I'm not as quite as anal as you but still want a top job. I'm in Horsham and have been asking around and i have received a couple of recommendations. Have set my budget (at the moment) at £500 so we shall see.

VW in Horsham were useless but the Crawley VW Main Dealer recommended a local Gatwick company who carry out some work for VW, BMW and Merc (among others) in the area.....

http://www.slrestoration.co.uk/

Also got a recommendation about a local company in Cowfold called Auto Colour Works...

http://www.autocolourworx.com/


And from other research, although no idea of quality.......



http://www.sprcoachworks.co.uk/ in Hailsham

http://www.oceancoachworks.co.uk/ in Brighton

http://www.washingtoncoachworks.co.uk/ min Washington





Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scottm72 on December 06, 2012, 07:40:29 pm
do you guys in our day to day driving bother treating stone chips etc as you go along, in the way of a touch up pen etc or do you just leave it ?
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Sonic6103 on December 06, 2012, 07:49:51 pm
I had mine done recently and it cost me £400 for my Edition 30 and I had wing mirrors, wings, bonnet and bumper all done to get rid of the stonechips. I did get mates rates though but he isn't usually cheap because of the quality of his work and he's well known in the area. He took the bumper, splitter, fog lights out and 'flicked' up the pillars, I'm guessing that's some sort of blending in technique lol I'm not 100% sure but if I remember rightly he didn't touch he black part of my bumper, where the reg plate sits, because he said it had no chips n saved him charging me more for the paint etc, he just cleaned it up with everything else at the end and got a glass finish. Oh and that was using an oven too, I'm not sure how many bodyshops actually use or have the room for an oven but it's better if they do.

Oh and I'm from Wigan area if anyone up this way needs the guys number for bodywork jobs :)
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: chrisr763 on December 06, 2012, 10:44:55 pm
Going back the the comment about 'not getting it back to factory' Its totally acheivable. I know i paid top dollar for VW to respray just my bonnet £300. But seriosuly couldnt fault them. Perfect job!  :happy2:

VW Baisingstoke for reference
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: rich83 on December 06, 2012, 11:03:37 pm
You should be able to get it close to original finish. Once its been sprayed leave it a few months and then get it flatted and polished.. it will remove the orange peal you tend to get on resprays.

Ive been quoted about 350 quid to do my front bumper, bonnet and blend the wings. thats up in manchester though.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scooba on December 07, 2012, 05:53:15 am
Hi , Thanks everyone for the input we are going away in May so I will get it done then ,once the winter is out the way and a proper detail ,I washed her last weekend and found lots of tiny chips around the front ,I was thinking another coat of paint wouldn't do her any harm ,

Thanks to all 
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: chrisr763 on December 07, 2012, 08:13:49 am
Stone chips are unavoidable, but if you think it's worth it... I certainly do... Go for it :)
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: justsean on December 07, 2012, 10:14:45 am
Ive got a car park dent on my left rear quarter so went in for a quote, whilst there I got a quote for the whole from end including bonnet due to stone chips etc, and it he said £450 for it. good quality job too, he does most of the cars for Audi locally. I didnt think that was too bad.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: jedi-knight83 on December 07, 2012, 10:17:51 am
vw chelmsford did my wings under warranty and then i paid to have my bonnet and bumper and splitter done. I paid an extra £650 for the bonnet bumper and splitter but dont know how much the wings would have been if id have paid myself... prob another £400-£500.

Quality of work is excellent... bit of polishing i needed to do to get it to my standard but paint finish and colour match were spot on
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: MC71 on December 07, 2012, 11:14:33 am
Ive got a car park dent on my left rear quarter so went in for a quote, whilst there I got a quote for the whole from end including bonnet due to stone chips etc, and it he said £450 for it. good quality job too, he does most of the cars for Audi locally. I didnt think that was too bad.

Where from? Is this in the South/South East

 :happy2:
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: justsean on December 07, 2012, 01:28:43 pm
unfortunately not no! Its in the Lake District, hes just down the road from Lindale Audi, friend who works there recommended him because they've never had an issue with his work. He seemed pretty switched on when I dropped in for a quote
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: GTI_UK on December 07, 2012, 02:18:16 pm
I’ve been thinking about this too as my car has lived on the motorway and the bonnet in particular is looking like it could do with a spruce up.

One thing that no one seems to have mentioned is resprays and resale. I appreciate that all of what is being said here is to enhance the look of the car rather than to put right some damage but as a buyer I’m always wary of a car that looks too clean.

An alternative is to have chips touched in and wet & dry polished by a detailed. Anyone else thought about this and relative costs?
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: jedi-knight83 on December 07, 2012, 05:21:48 pm
I’ve been thinking about this too as my car has lived on the motorway and the bonnet in particular is looking like it could do with a spruce up.

One thing that no one seems to have mentioned is resprays and resale. I appreciate that all of what is being said here is to enhance the look of the car rather than to put right some damage but as a buyer I’m always wary of a car that looks too clean.

An alternative is to have chips touched in and wet & dry polished by a detailed. Anyone else thought about this and relative costs?


Only really possible if there are a handfull of chips and the chip is big enough to get paint in. If its more like a road rash then respray is the best option.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scooba on December 07, 2012, 05:30:56 pm
I would think any prospective buyer  would consider any one who is prepaired to have a front end respray to keep there Gti looking mint a bonus a extra coat of paint wouldnt put me off  .
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scottm72 on December 07, 2012, 05:34:41 pm
I would think any prospective buyer  would consider any one who is prepaired to have a front end respray to keep there Gti looking mint a bonus a extra coat of paint wouldnt put me off  .
agreed, just tell the buyer and it will actually help you sell not the other way round
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: chrisr763 on December 07, 2012, 10:29:35 pm
X3. I consider any decent paintwork job a good thing. Make sure it's not hiding any nasties up :happy2: but I'm sure if a reputable garage were to perform the work you wouldn't feel bad! :)
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scooba on December 07, 2012, 11:04:29 pm
I would think any prospective buyer  would consider any one who is prepaired to have a front end respray to keep there Gti looking mint a bonus a extra coat of paint wouldnt put me off  .
agreed, just tell the buyer and it will actually help you sell not the other way round

I would rather sell the new R, I just want to try and keep my ed30  mint and rather than leave it to become a bigger job id rather keep on top of it and spend some money now.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Saintsteve on December 08, 2012, 08:39:48 am
I would think any prospective buyer  would consider any one who is prepaired to have a front end respray to keep there Gti looking mint a bonus a extra coat of paint wouldnt put me off  .
agreed, just tell the buyer and it will actually help you sell not the other way round

I would rather sell the new R, I just want to try and keep my ed30  mint and rather than leave it to become a bigger job id rather keep on top of it and spend some money now.

As I said, you will have to do some serious work to get the paintwork matching the rest of the panels after a respray. The other thing you need to consider is after a respray, your making the paintwork even softer showing up more chips and road rash!.

I considered this hugely, but was told by several people in the know, that respraying is the absolute last result.

@scooba , you have a Pm fella, I would let my recommendation look at it, and let him see it . Yours doesn't sound as bad as mine was and that your best of going for polish and paint correct, and have the chips wet sanded.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Oli on December 08, 2012, 08:48:30 am
I would think any prospective buyer  would consider any one who is prepaired to have a front end respray to keep there Gti looking mint a bonus a extra coat of paint wouldnt put me off  .
agreed, just tell the buyer and it will actually help you sell not the other way round

I would rather sell the new R, I just want to try and keep my ed30  mint and rather than leave it to become a bigger job id rather keep on top of it and spend some money now.

As I said, you will have to do some serious work to get the paintwork matching the rest of the panels after a respray. The other thing you need to consider is after a respray, your making the paintwork even softer showing up more chips and road rash!.

I considered this hugely, but was told by several people in the know, that respraying is the absolute last result.

@scooba , you have a Pm fella, I would let my recommendation look at it, and let him see it . Yours doesn't sound as bad as mine was and that your best of going for polish and paint correct, and have the chips wet sanded.

Is his red as well?  As admittedly this is the hardest colour, but a decent bodyshop will get it right, so you couldn't see.  A correctly done respray will blend perfectly. :happy2:
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Saintsteve on December 08, 2012, 10:16:46 am
I would think any prospective buyer  would consider any one who is prepaired to have a front end respray to keep there Gti looking mint a bonus a extra coat of paint wouldnt put me off  .
agreed, just tell the buyer and it will actually help you sell not the other way round

I would rather sell the new R, I just want to try and keep my ed30  mint and rather than leave it to become a bigger job id rather keep on top of it and spend some money now.

As I said, you will have to do some serious work to get the paintwork matching the rest of the panels after a respray. The other thing you need to consider is after a respray, your making the paintwork even softer showing up more chips and road rash!.

I considered this hugely, but was told by several people in the know, that respraying is the absolute last result.

@scooba , you have a Pm fella, I would let my recommendation look at it, and let him see it . Yours doesn't sound as bad as mine was and that your best of going for polish and paint correct, and have the chips wet sanded.

Is his red as well?  As admittedly this is the hardest colour, but a decent bodyshop will get it right, so you couldn't see.  A correctly done respray will blend perfectly. :happy2:

Yes oli it is, and yes Tornado Red is an absolute arse to get a Perfect Match.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scottm72 on December 09, 2012, 12:17:30 am
so if your car is resprayed in any area by the insurance company after a knock are you saying the paint will then be softer and then more prone to chips etc ?
I didn't know that, I just presumed it would be sealed like factory ?
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Saintsteve on December 09, 2012, 09:20:33 am
so if your car is resprayed in any area by the insurance company after a knock are you saying the paint will then be softer and then more prone to chips etc ?
I didn't know that, I just presumed it would be sealed like factory ?

The more paint you add, the softer it will be.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Oli on December 09, 2012, 09:26:56 am
If the re-spray process is done correctly, the finish will be as good if not better than factory.  Steve Im not sure who youve been speaking to, but maybe you want to come and see some of the paintwork that comes out of our paintshop :happy2:

Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 09, 2012, 10:13:16 am
If the re-spray process is done correctly, the finish will be as good if not better than factory.  Steve Im not sure who youve been speaking to, but maybe you want to come and see some of the paintwork that comes out of our paintshop :happy2:



I second this, Ive had almost every car ive owned sprayed at some point to improve the finish whether it be due to stone chips or whatever and everytime it has been as good if not better than the factory finish... :happy2:
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: adamf on December 26, 2012, 06:24:01 pm
If the re-spray process is done correctly, the finish will be as good if not better than factory.  Steve Im not sure who youve been speaking to, but maybe you want to come and see some of the paintwork that comes out of our paintshop :happy2:



I second this, Ive had almost every car ive owned sprayed at some point to improve the finish whether it be due to stone chips or whatever and everytime it has been as good if not better than the factory finish... :happy2:

I third this. I work in a prestige bodyshop which are also VAG approved and we perfectly match any finish and colour to what was on the car previously. It will only be too soft if it hasn't been done correctly. The paint will cure once cooled down and go hard so it can be flat and polished if needed to achieve the same finish as the rest of the car :happy2:

Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: stu_no_1 on December 26, 2012, 07:00:44 pm
I reckon £500 should see a decent job done but make sure you get proof that the bumper was stripped down properly and tell the guy how anal u are when u take it in but in my experience in getting cars painted there are a lot more bad painters out there than good guys. As for getting factory finish it will be quite difficult to get that much orange peel in a paint job your more likely to get a better finish from a good bodyshop the paint finish is terrible from the factory. Colour match should be spot on by a good bodyshop but red is really hard to match they might want to blend onto the doors
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: AaronMc on December 27, 2012, 09:33:49 am
I have had a quote of £350 + VAT for front and rear bumper resprayed from a VW Approved Repairer. Also has a quote of £270+ VAT from an independent but they deal with very high end stuff and their work is top! Prices vary a lot but its all from reputation..

I just worry as mines Tornado Red so must be hard to match with the rear quarters as that's metal opposed to plastic..
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: JPC on December 27, 2012, 12:51:17 pm
Just to clear up a few points...

A good bodyshop will be able to paint any area of the car and have it match with the rest. That's their aim, goal job what ever you want to call it. If you have a front end respray and it doesn't match the rest of the car, don't pay for the job. That's like ordering a set of wheels and only receiving three.

The paint won't be any softer than factory if the bodyshop are mixing the paints/hardeners properly and baking them off for the correct time specified by the paint manufacturer.

I've just had the front end of my RS4 done due to stone chips and I paid 650 from a bodyshop I really trust. It's a little more than some might expect to pay but I know why I can expect and paying a little more to avoid the above problems is more than worth it to me.
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: scooba on December 27, 2012, 01:09:20 pm
Just to clear up a few points...

A good bodyshop will be able to paint any area of the car and have it match with the rest. That's their aim, goal job what ever you want to call it. If you have a front end respray and it doesn't match the rest of the car, don't pay for the job. That's like ordering a set of wheels and only receiving three.

The paint won't be any softer than factory if the bodyshop are mixing the paints/hardeners properly and baking them off for the correct time specified by the paint manufacturer.

I've just had the front end of my RS4 done due to stone chips and I paid 650 from a bodyshop I really trust. It's a little more than some might expect to pay but I know why I can expect and paying a little more to avoid the above problems is more than worth it to me.


Hi Thanks J that is what I wanted to hear
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: heavyd on December 27, 2012, 01:36:08 pm
I dont think youll ever get the same quality as a factory finish. As if you sand back to bare metal, your taking the galvanising off, also the ED coat that the car gets dipped in during the paint process. The paint in the factory is also electrostatically charged, then it goes through big ovens.
The actual finished look maybe better from a bodyshop without orangepeel etc, but actual protection of the steel is never going to be as good,
Title: Re: FRONT END RESPRAY COSTS
Post by: stu_no_1 on December 27, 2012, 04:12:33 pm
I doubt getting a front end sprayed is going to be taken back to bare metal just flattened out and any stone chips filled so if anything that will add to the protection of the metal as the original coating is still under it