MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Sonic6103 on December 06, 2012, 08:31:42 pm
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Hi everyone,
I've not been on here much recently because I've been mad busy with my medical discharge from the forces, restoring my '78 Mini Van, wedding, sorting xmas stuff out, etc etc.
I know there's usually lots of people asking questions about brakes and usually get the same replies I'm guessing but I'm after similar advice but have a few certain options in mind so far but I have no clue which is going to be best suited/value for me.
First off, I've stopped using my car for the winter but when I got the camblet done the other week at VW they also told me my brakes needed replacing (Front discs & pads and rear discs i think it was) so basically I want to upgrade them now. The car is currently at stage one and I'm still not bored of it but maybe next year I think I might upgrade to stage 2 or 2+ and I'll be using it for the odd fast road use but also for hopefully a track day every one or 2 months through the summer. With this in mind I'm unsure if I'm best off just upgrading my disc and pads or getting a big brake kit or going with something similar to the S3 conversion etc?
I had some minor trouble with my local tuner and because of this they've offered to discount whichever brakes I decide to go with. I have standard ED30 wheels by the way too. Here's a few links to what options I've had put forward to me so far.... Please can anyone advise or give constructive criticism about each one and also if anyone comes up with anything else like the S3 brakes then please can you give me an idea of current prices?
Upgraded Discs & Pads
Tarox Sport Japan Brake discs front and rear Your price £380.00
Tarox Corsa front pads and Tarox rear Your price £205.00
Big Brake Kits
Forge Big Brake Kit 330mm - £982.80
http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/forge-big-brake-kit-330mm-17-or-larger-wheels-golf-mk5-etc
Brembo Gran Turismo Brake Kit - £1234.44
http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/brembo-gran-turismo-brake-kit-golf-v-front-2004
Tarox 330mm 6pot kit - £1780.92
http://en.tarox.com/products/brake-system-sport.html
Tarox rear brake discs and pads to go with kits Your Price £235.00
Any help is much appreciated :)
Cheers,
Karl
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I've got some mint Leon Cupra Reds (same size as S3) nice cheap upgrade only draw back is the weight if your a track nut etc
Plenty good enough for fast road use even with stock pads
PM me if your interested
Cheers Buddy
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I have the r32 brakes all round on my tdi and the difference is like night and day--i was looking at the forge or brembo brakes but can't justify spending that much on a set of brakes on a car that won't be going on the track
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Currently using Tarox Strada pads on the fronts, have a nice bite to them.
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I've got an Eddy and have just bought some Porsche 986/987 Cayman/Boxster Calipers (4 pot) as these seem a great upgrade from the standard set up, weigh as much as a bag of sugar and look the nuts. You'll need a fitting kit from DaveB on the forum, better still, read the tread...
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13985.0.html
I think, all in It is costing me around £800 for an "as new" Brembo 4 pot porsche brake set up. I think you may need 5mm spacers if your going to run them under the Pescara's. I am going to lose some extra weight (along with the brakes) and am getting some Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 18" wheels as well.
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I've got some mint Leon Cupra Reds (same size as S3) nice cheap upgrade only draw back is the weight if your a track nut etc
Plenty good enough for fast road use even with stock pads
PM me if your interested
Cheers Buddy
I agree. :happy2:
You can offset the weight with S3 hubs and arms if you so desire but the brakes and plenty good enough for fast road. :smiley:
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Currently using Tarox Strada pads on the fronts, have a nice bite to them.
I found the Tarox Strada to be worse than stock. According to the Tarox customer services they use the Ferrodo brake pad compounds.
Tarox Strada = attempt at OEM equivalent.
Tarox corsa = Ferrodo DS2500
Tarox track = Ferrodo DS3000
Ive got the Corsa's on my bbk and they were pretty good although started to fade slightly after about 5 or 6 laps of silverstone.
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Strange, mine have been quite good, but are now coming to the end of their life, wouldn't mind trying something else.
Are the Tarox Corsa / Ferodo DS2500 street legal? Also do they require heating up?
I had a set of Red stuff pads on my last car, and they were terrible without some heat in them... excellent fade resisitance though.
What the hell are these: http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/ferodo-ds-performance-front-brake-pads-golf-mk5-2-0tdi-2-0-fsi10-03
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DS2500/Corsas work fine from cold and are street legal as far as im aware.
What the hell are these: http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/ferodo-ds-performance-front-brake-pads-golf-mk5-2-0tdi-2-0-fsi10-03
They are stock equivalent pads i think.
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DS2500/Corsas work fine from cold and are street legal as far as im aware.
What the hell are these: http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/ferodo-ds-performance-front-brake-pads-golf-mk5-2-0tdi-2-0-fsi10-03
They are stock equivalent pads i think.
Excellent, cheers.
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Hi mate,I be selling my nqsbbk next year around spring ..if you can wait then I can do a good deal with you
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Thanks everyone, got a few things to think about then it seems.
I'll let you know around Spring time Dan if I'm still interested in them :)
I've just been told today that I can get the Tarox big brake kit for £1450 now and also this kit retails at £3k I'm told.... Any chance anyone can confirm if they are usually £3k or is it more like I'm being lied to by the sales guy at Tarox?
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Seems you can get the Tarox 6 pot 330mm for ~£1900
So even though he may be stretching the truth somewhat, it's a good price at £1450.
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I'm told by Tarox rep that Awesome bought lots of these sets tho so are able to sell them so cheap due to the discount they got on the bulk buy but said usually they'd be selling at around £3k.
I just don't know if they're worth spending that much on and if I should go with a different set up. One set up I'm really interested in now is the NQSBBK but I don't want the hassle of sourcing parts or getting everything reconditioned before fitting
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I'm told by Tarox rep that Awesome bought lots of these sets tho so are able to sell them so cheap due to the discount they got on the bulk buy but said usually they'd be selling at around £3k.
I just don't know if they're worth spending that much on and if I should go with a different set up. One set up I'm really interested in now is the NQSBBK but I don't want the hassle of sourcing parts or getting everything reconditioned before fitting
i went through the same dilemma-as i didn't want the hassle of waiting for pads to come or the hassle of getting discs so that was one of the reasons i went for the r32 set up-yes it may heavier than other set up out there but if your not taking the car on the track then you won't notice it
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Ah right ok, yeah I'll be taking it on the track a fair bit next year hopefully but thanks for the info on them!
Oh and for the NQSBBK kit, are the pads going to be any different in price just because they fit into a Porsche Caliper? I noticed a lot of the BBK's I've looked at use standard shape pads so are easily available at a good price when coming to replace them
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not sure on the price of the pads-hopefully some one will advice you better on the price :happy2:
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Does anyone know the exact model of Porsche for the calipers in the NQSBBK? I've had a look online and spoke to my local Porsche parts manager and he's said there's about 10 different calipers for the 986/987 Cayman/Boxster.
I know nothing about Porsche but apparently there are different calipers for models. You've got 986-987 Boxster and Boxster S, Cayman gen 1 and gen 2? He also said he's sold a few sets off the 996 Turbo but they have all been for Mk4 Golfs
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The short answer is that it doesn't really matter. Any Boxster/Cayman 2.5/2.7/2.9 calipers will do
DaveB does do a kit with the 996TT caliper too
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I've been told the front pads for Porsche Boxster 986 (97-04), Porsche Boxster 987 (05+) and Porsche Cayman (06+) are all the same and will fit the NQSBBK.
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Does anyone know the exact model of Porsche for the calipers in the NQSBBK? I've had a look online and spoke to my local Porsche parts manager and he's said there's about 10 different calipers for the 986/987 Cayman/Boxster.
I know nothing about Porsche but apparently there are different calipers for models. You've got 986-987 Boxster and Boxster S, Cayman gen 1 and gen 2? He also said he's sold a few sets off the 996 Turbo but they have all been for Mk4 Golfs
Taken from DaveB's thread on the NQS BBK.
For the Calipers the part numbers you need are 986 351 421 & 422
Just a brief explanation of part numbers:
First three are the model number 986=Boxster, 996=911, 955=Cayenne
351 = Front brakes
421 Left Caliper (odd numbers) & 422 Right Caliper (Even numbers)
Dont buy anything with a 352 in the part number they are rear calipers and the pistons are too small for a Mk5