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Title: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: tony_danza on December 13, 2012, 07:50:18 pm
Xdrive makes its way to the UK. I also think someone's dinner made it back into their mouth....

Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: jhtrophy on December 13, 2012, 07:59:38 pm
I'm scared of rwd, looks good that.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: JackG on December 13, 2012, 08:13:47 pm
Bmw's  :sick:
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: tony_danza on December 13, 2012, 09:22:05 pm
Looks, or because it isn't a VAG?
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: winrya on December 13, 2012, 09:26:10 pm
Hate to say it but the looks have grown one me now and a 135i will probably replace the GTI
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: tony_danza on December 13, 2012, 09:30:59 pm
It'll never be described as pretty, that's for sure.

I think the MKVII will be very interesting, a step forward too. It's too early to call a next car for x-years time, but for right here right now - tell me better for £30k?
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: sub39h on December 13, 2012, 09:40:11 pm
It'll never be described as pretty, that's for sure.

I think the MKVII will be very interesting, a step forward too. It's too early to call a next car for x-years time, but for right here right now - tell me better for £30k?

2nd hand M3 for my money personally

don't really see the point in AWD BMWs. you buy them because they're the most dynamically capable. i fear that AWD would detract from that. if i wanted a cruiser i'd get a VAG purely because i prefer the interiors etc. if i wanted a fun car, it would be a RWD BMW (but not the M135i as the 1-Series is hideous imho and i don't see the point when you could get a Z4 for similar beans which is probably no less practical considering the comical interior space of the 1-Series)
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Greeners on December 13, 2012, 09:45:38 pm
It'll drift then!  :driver:
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 13, 2012, 09:47:00 pm
It'll never be described as pretty, that's for sure.


I havent found any of the BMWs nice to look out when they are first released, but they really grow on you over time i think
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on December 13, 2012, 09:54:58 pm
It'll never be described as pretty, that's for sure.


I havent found any of the BMWs nice to look out when they are first released, but they really grow on you over time i think

I agree but the exception is new 4 series:

Very tasty :happy2:
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Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: tony_danza on December 13, 2012, 09:58:29 pm
It'll never be described as pretty, that's for sure.

I think the MKVII will be very interesting, a step forward too. It's too early to call a next car for x-years time, but for right here right now - tell me better for £30k?

2nd hand M3 for my money personally

don't really see the point in AWD BMWs. you buy them because they're the most dynamically capable. i fear that AWD would detract from that. if i wanted a cruiser i'd get a VAG purely because i prefer the interiors etc. if i wanted a fun car, it would be a RWD BMW (but not the M135i as the 1-Series is hideous imho and i don't see the point when you could get a Z4 for similar beans which is probably no less practical considering the comical interior space of the 1-Series)

But we're talking about brand new cars.

There's a lot more room in the new 1-series, looks obviously are subjective, but it at least is capable of carrying adults in the back this time.

4WD beemers? I agree, I wouldn't buy one, but I can see why they've decided to finally bring them over here. Looks like it drives ok though.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 13, 2012, 10:03:27 pm
It'll never be described as pretty, that's for sure.


I havent found any of the BMWs nice to look out when they are first released (excluding the new 4 series which is stunning), but they really grow on you over time i think

I agree but the exception is new 4 series:

Very tasty :happy2:
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fair point, amended.... :grin:  Not sure about the bloke driving it though.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: sub39h on December 13, 2012, 10:04:50 pm
agreed, 4-Series is nice
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Post by: Baz300 on December 13, 2012, 10:13:52 pm
I love RWD in the summer but hate it in the winter

When I had a 330ci I had to get a lift into work a few times during the winter as the car would get stuck

I had an e36 m3 a good few years ago and it was the best driving car I have ever owned
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Peppermuncher on December 14, 2012, 12:56:36 am
I think I'm one of the only people in the world who thinks the 4 series is ugly, fair enough the side profile is a lot neater than the old 3 series coupe, always looked a bit odd at the rear 3rd.

But front facing and the rear look like a curvey Korean explosion, like they don't know where to start curving, bending, linking. All just a bit messy, and those side grilles look so add on. i loved the bangle styling with all the concave and convex sheetmetal, and the constrasting light that was formed.

Probably get told I'm a retard now!   :sad1:
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: tony_danza on December 14, 2012, 08:33:18 am
Maybe a little fussy on the front, I'm sure it'll look neater in M-sport trim with shadowline rather than chrome?
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 14, 2012, 09:33:45 am
Probably get told I'm a retard now!   :sad1:
:grin: :grin:


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Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Tamiyoman on December 14, 2012, 10:18:15 am
I quite like the look of the BMW 3 series (2010 model), but then I am planning on selling my ED30 to buy one (320D M Sport) need better MPG and quite happy paying £100 per year Road tax and only £285 insurance, will also come in handy for the 6 weekly 800 mile round trip to Manchester  :happy2:, also with 3 snowboard holidays coming up in next 4 months (we are driving so we get 3 good driving ski holidays instead of 1 good flying holiday) the extra MPG will prove very handy.  :happy2:

RWD does not bother me, had a couple of RWD Sierra Cosworths back in the day so I am accustomed to the joys of RWD.

4 Series looks great but not practical for me  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: jhtrophy on December 14, 2012, 04:28:24 pm
This m135i is really getting to people, how many threads of people saying its ugly :signLOL: it is clearly the best performance car for the money by a long way, who cares about looks?
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: rich83 on December 14, 2012, 04:31:12 pm
This m135i is really getting to people, how many threads of people saying its ugly :signLOL: it is clearly the best performance car for the money by a long way, who cares about looks?

Me.... I wouldnt buy one if i had the money, I would take the 135i old version.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: jhtrophy on December 14, 2012, 04:37:06 pm
The old 135i coupe is better lookin, but only has two rear seats and doesn't drive as well, I buy a performance car for driving, looks come second. In terms of a hot hatch you buy the bet one on the market IMO
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Post by: andrewparker on December 14, 2012, 04:46:41 pm
I think if we were all buying a hot hatch for looks we'd be buying an Alfa Romeo Giulietta Cloverleaf. But they're crap. For me the performance of the M135i makes the looks quite easy to overlook, if not quite love.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Leeds s3 on December 14, 2012, 04:50:48 pm
There isnt much out there that will touch a m135i for the money, forget the looks and drive one!!!
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: RobH on December 14, 2012, 05:43:25 pm
Now seems a good time to add this



Im with jhtrophy, performance comes first and the looks have grown on me alot since first release, but it will always be a bit of a munter to look at.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: rdfcpete on December 14, 2012, 05:53:58 pm
I think when you know a car is quick and has a presence that other people will respect or admire, it can make a car appear more attractive to you even if not on just the cosmetics alone.

...Which is why I begin to like the M135i more each time I see it action.

The prev-gen 1series coupe for me though is the naturally better looking car without doubt. I don't see many 135i coupe's up and down the country either. I think the new one will sell a little more given the feedback so far.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Leeds s3 on December 14, 2012, 06:10:36 pm
They will sell plenty, we have sold and delivered 5 m135i's already, imagine how many we will sell once have cars to demo prospective buyers in.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: sub39h on December 14, 2012, 06:17:30 pm
This m135i is really getting to people, how many threads of people saying its ugly :signLOL: it is clearly the best performance car for the money by a long way, who cares about looks?

Me.... I wouldnt buy one if i had the money, I would take the 135i old version.

i wouldn't have either!
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: andrewparker on December 14, 2012, 06:50:33 pm
The looks thing is a bit of a contentious issue. You either choose an A3 which is dull beyond contempt, a Golf which is slightly ordinary, or a 1-Series or A-Class which are both slightly weird looking. I don't think any of them could be considered good looking.
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: rdfcpete on December 14, 2012, 07:04:12 pm
...an A3 which is dull beyond contempt

:surprised: You watch your step! :fighting:

















 :laugh:
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Rampage on December 14, 2012, 07:05:22 pm
I'm quite surprised... I was expecting the ED35 to come last. There wasn't that much in it, it was well down on power compared to the others, and quite weighty too I guess. So thats roughly how our stock ED30's would perform against the new class of hatches?
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: sub39h on December 14, 2012, 07:07:48 pm
The looks thing is a bit of a contentious issue. You either choose an A3 which is dull beyond contempt, a Golf which is slightly ordinary, or a 1-Series or A-Class which are both slightly weird looking. I don't think any of them could be considered good looking.

looks are subjective

i'd say the A3 and Golf are handsome, the A-Class kinda funky but not my cup of tea, and the 1-Series ugly. BMW designers have proven they can make good looking cars (3, 4 and 5-er) but the 1 is just hideous.

if you don't like it, don't buy it. simples!
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: Aparoon on December 14, 2012, 07:45:40 pm
I like these , I think the front is awesome , the rear a little pony but still wouldn't stop me buying one. I'm going to chav around in my impreza for a year or two then will definately be getting another Beemer they're brilliant , the 125d with the dct gearbox is very tempting !
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Post by: E30Dom on December 14, 2012, 08:27:42 pm
You're not singing anymore!!! Lmao :sick:
Title: Re: Want a fast BMW, but are scared of RWD? Merry Xmas....
Post by: gobbleplease on December 14, 2012, 10:35:18 pm
I think they look good tbh, the only problem I've got is I was going to buy one as my next car but my next door neighbour has just told me that he is buying a CSL. I'm not sure i can walk past one of those every day without buying one....
Also I've bought my last 2 M3s from him when he moved to his next car  :scared:

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Time to move house I think,