MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Andy on December 14, 2012, 10:11:38 pm
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http://pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26839
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that's very sad..... :sad1:
end of a motoring era with now low co2 being the main concept and not helped by the fecking recession
Paul
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i'd never own an Impreza but i admired them from a distance. 'tis a shame. i wouldn't mind so much if the BRZ STI was turbocharged
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RIP Scooby. I've always wanted to be able to say i've owned one and when we were buying the GTI i tried to persaude the mrs into getting one but she's a badge snob and so wouldn't entertain it. Looks like the closest i'll get is Gran Turismo and Forza :grin:
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Sad times indeed. Great cars but time moves on I suppose. Would still have a 22B in a heart beat though. :notworthy:
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would it have been too difficult to make a more efficient engine and economic engine, every other car maunfacturer has managed it!! Its got such a huge cult following. Make it fuel efficient and low on emmissions and surely it would be massive seller
Shame though.
Its good news if you own an impreza though, because they wont depreciate much any more
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Real shame this, i've only had one impreza and didnt have it more than 6 months but really glad i had one :driver: awesome drivers car
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had to garage my scooby to change to diesel for the mileage i do...
such a shame but the day of owning raw performance cars are gone...
still love a rip in my one when i need to feel an adrenalin rush
RIP
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I nearly bought one a few years ago, but the interior was woeful. It just shows you can't rest on your laurels in such a competitive market. As someone has already suggested, there's no excuse for uncompetitive emissions, poor economy and shocking interiors. Right or wrong, people expect so much more now than just performance and driveability. If you don't keep up, people vote with their feet.
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its the running cost of them as well that puts people of them now!at work the average service and repair Bill is £450:because of the 4 wheel drive on the new scoobys the tyres have not to be more than 2mm difference between each other:ie if you need a new type and the rest are on 3mm and your new one is 7mm then you need to change then all as it winds the diff up
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Sad sad times :( love the old scooby :) Beetle boxer engine haha
22b is a legend of a car :-D
Love the new saloon wrx looks super wide n chunky
The way things are going say bye to the Evo and most the big 2.0 and 2.5 cars :(
It's all 1.0 to 1.6 turbo crap now Eco boost etc
Get a v8 petrol disco and kill the environment lol ;)
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Very sad news - owned plenty, my first a JDM coupe STi WRX back in 98.
Best one, the factory Cosworth Variant back in 2009 on which I developed the exhaust system for them.
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Realised today that having a wee misfire makes my car sound like a flat 4 scooby of old :signLOL:
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Sad news, but a sign of the times. And with no WRC programme to attract buyers, it was only a matter of time before Subaru followed Mitsubishi out of AWD turbo cars.
8 years of Impreza driving. I still find my eye (and ear) drawn to them. The '05 was the last 'handsome' car in my opinion. However I was followed by a new shape '09 today and it still has a certain something.
But I wouldn't go back to my STi from the GTI. But I'm damn glad I owned two of them.
The last of the road-going rally cars is gone. The King is dead.
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I very nearly got a 2006 WRX-STI instead of an Ed30.................after over a year of owning the ED30 I'm extremely glad I didn't though.
You can pick a good condition 'hawkeye' version up SO cheaply in the UK at the moment too, very tempted to get one for towing it round in the winter! :laugh:
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Awfull interiors
Engines made by cadburys
Expensive servicing
Shocking fuel economy
Most have Chav exhausts
Terrible depreciation
Never liked them personally, even a very good friend that owns a business that is based 100% on tuning subarus admits they are rubbish :grin:
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They are a little crap owned em in the past and the evo are better
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Sad news, but a sign of the times. And with no WRC programme to attract buyers, it was only a matter of time before Subaru followed Mitsubishi out of AWD turbo cars.
8 years of Impreza driving. I still find my eye (and ear) drawn to them. The '05 was the last 'handsome' car in my opinion. However I was followed by a new shape '09 today and it still has a certain something.
But I wouldn't go back to my STi from the GTI. But I'm damn glad I owned two of them.
The last of the road-going rally cars is gone. The King is dead.
Since when did Mitsubishi pull out of AWD turbo cars??? :confused:
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So the original has standed the test of time.
I think every petrol head should own a scooby or Evo at some point though. Just a shame insurance on one is silly
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Awfull interiors
Engines made by cadburys
Expensive servicing
Shocking fuel economy
Most have Chav exhausts
Terrible depreciation
Never liked them personally, even a very good friend that owns a business that is based 100% on tuning subarus admits they are rubbish :grin:
I sort of feel the same. I've never coveted one. Despite the performance they're just not desirable. They have a very "boy racer" image to them.
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It's more the fuel cost these days mine was bloody shocking sti type uk
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I test drove a WR1 and wasn't impressed. The handling was good, but everything else wasn't.
You can still buy a VW 2.0 AWD car though. :wink:
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I test drove one back in about 1997.
The only car they had that I could drive was 3 years old and had done 60k but was as tight as a drum which impressed me. It's turbo lag didn't but when it picked itself up it went like a stabbed rat.
Oh well.
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Sad time.
I still remember when the first brand new turbo one came into our familys subaru dealership to replace the legacy turbo. The time before anyone really knew what they were or the chavs and maxpower got them.
I still think the legacy turbo was a better car though.
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Awfull interiors
Engines made by cadburys
Expensive servicing
Shocking fuel economy
Most have Chav exhausts
Terrible depreciation
Never liked them personally, even a very good friend that owns a business that is based 100% on tuning subarus admits they are rubbish :grin:
Bit harsh :sad1:
Dont forget we were all coming off the back of Cossies and Integrales and the Scooby was breath of fresh air especially for those of us following the Rally scene.
...and who can forget McRae in 98
- or ken Block...?
They just never really moved on :sad1:
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Awfull interiors
Engines made by cadburys
Expensive servicing
Shocking fuel economy
Most have Chav exhausts
Terrible depreciation
Never liked them personally, even a very good friend that owns a business that is based 100% on tuning subarus admits they are rubbish :grin:
Bit harsh :sad1:
Dont forget we were all coming off the back of Cossies and Integrales and the Scooby was breath of fresh air especially for those of us following the Rally scene.
...and who can forget McRae in 98
- or ken Block...?
They just never really moved on :sad1:
Indeed....................awesome cars for going absolutely bonkers in! :happy2:
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Awfull interiors
Engines made by cadburys
Expensive servicing
Shocking fuel economy
Most have Chav exhausts
Terrible depreciation
Never liked them personally, even a very good friend that owns a business that is based 100% on tuning subarus admits they are rubbish :grin:
There good cars, my dad has 1999 turbo impreza, only thing that's ever gone wrong is the rad leaked, he's owned it 7 years now, I think the sound is great, far more fun being a caged impreza with a chav system on it than these new things that's about now, it's just a shame the moment you put morsels than 5hp over standard the bottom end goes :signLOL:
I'd love one tho, apparently there's a special jap import only model that actually has a good engine that lasts! I'd have one of these if I had 30k :stupid:
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350bhp easally achievable :party: for very little money...
in 97 JDM WRX STi's came with 5 station switchable diff lock - water injection and the most identifiable sound track ever (possible exception flat plane crank V8)
Along with the Evo program Singly responsible for re igniting the tuning industry...
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I never owned a scobby but did own a evo for a bit and lovvvvvved! Rapid as feck! Sounds like I would have loved a impreza too :( sad times.
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I've owned 4 Subaru's and I was of they very first to own the redesigned 2003 "Blobeye" Type UK STI. I had it for 4 years and then picked up a 2006 JDM Hawkeye STI
I loved my scoobies but day to day I prefer driving my ED30.
I do miss the power I had and the sure-footedness, it never ran out of grip. I had only changed the exhaust, panel filter and remap and she made 350bhp/365torque.
When I put the power down, all of it transfered to the road without any wheel spin.
That is the one thing i miss in my ED30 and why I am looking to getting a Golf R.
But I dont think I would go back.
The servicing wasn't any more expensive than my ED's and the parts were generally cheaper than what is on offer to VAG, the running costs in terms of fuel was a killer.
220 miles out of an 11gallon tank on a run and a lot less for day to day driving.
My friend had an evo 8 and it was a was a different animal. Just as fast and maybe more grippy but mainly because the car did alot for you.
There has always been a huge rivalry between the 2 cars and it generally comes down to a bad driver could go alot faster in an Evo.
But I am happy I made the switch and other than 4 wheel drive, that is all I really miss.
The main killer was the pricing of the car. When I got my 2003 STI I paid 24K for it, the same car now is 34k and isn't really that differently spec'd. Its slower if anything and has the weaker 2.5L engine. Unlike the 2001-2005 and the JDM 2L engine. You also get the 2.5L in the UK Hawkeye and that engine was chocolate!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv61%2Fmajinvash%2FIMG_3967.jpg&hash=06a7bf16a1eb3feff3f073df11ea63797e453232)
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Aw happy memories
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I've always preferred the Evo's to the Impreza's but they are still worthy of very great respect and love.
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Yes its a shame , even though I've never had one. I did own a Mitsi Evo II though , and running that for a year nearly killed me! That was when petrol was 89p a litre , and I was going through £20 every three days just running round town , I went to JAE at Billing and it cost me £95 in petrol in one day to get there and back!!I cant imagine how ruinous keeping one on the road is now ,especially with the £400 odd road tax on the newer ones! No Evo , now no Impreza - and era ends , RIP.
My old Evo
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FDmc1969%2FMy_cars%2FLancerEvoIIGSR.jpg&hash=a2058c422a51fe3fb330e3e2a9831d1ad7086e88)
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I've owned 4 Subaru's and I was of they very first to own the redesigned 2003 "Blobeye" Type UK STI. I had it for 4 years and then picked up a 2006 JDM Hawkeye STI
I loved my scoobies but day to day I prefer driving my ED30.
I do miss the power I had and the sure-footedness, it never ran out of grip. I had only changed the exhaust, panel filter and remap and she made 350bhp/365torque.
When I put the power down, all of it transfered to the road without any wheel spin.
That is the one thing i miss in my ED30 and why I am looking to getting a Golf R.
But I dont think I would go back.
The servicing wasn't any more expensive than my ED's and the parts were generally cheaper than what is on offer to VAG, the running costs in terms of fuel was a killer.
220 miles out of an 11gallon tank on a run and a lot less for day to day driving.
My friend had an evo 8 and it was a was a different animal. Just as fast and maybe more grippy but mainly because the car did alot for you.
There has always been a huge rivalry between the 2 cars and it generally comes down to a bad driver could go alot faster in an Evo.
But I am happy I made the switch and other than 4 wheel drive, that is all I really miss.
The main killer was the pricing of the car. When I got my 2003 STI I paid 24K for it, the same car now is 34k and isn't really that differently spec'd. Its slower if anything and has the weaker 2.5L engine. Unlike the 2001-2005 and the JDM 2L engine. You also get the 2.5L in the UK Hawkeye and that engine was chocolate!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv61%2Fmajinvash%2FIMG_3967.jpg&hash=06a7bf16a1eb3feff3f073df11ea63797e453232)
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Aw happy memories
That's a mint looking Scoob mate, have to say.. What sort of times/speeds did it run at Pod out of interest?
I have always loved Evo's and Scoobs over the years and been close to buying one a few times. Problem now is they just haven't moved on with the game and they are no longer the rapid 4 door saloon they use to be.
The most recent UK WRX Impreza was shockingly slow by comparison and they have nothing else in their locker to make you want one. The looks have gone down the drain (big time), interiors are still awful, fuel consumption/Co2 has never got any better (unlike most manufactures) and they still cost the same as a hot VAG...
Real shame, but they only have them selves to blame..
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My old car:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5218%2F5407889313_9c95bbcc6c.jpg&hash=3e188eb33b75fbb9c1e9bb40f94eaa6792799fc9) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lotus-gt/5407889313/)
2011 WRX STI Type Uk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lotus-gt/5407889313/) by lotus-gt (http://www.flickr.com/people/lotus-gt/), on Flickr
Very, very quick, lovely sound, fab recaros.
But, lousy mpg, expensive list price, crap ride, poor interior quality. TBH it's no surprise they struggled to sell many.
When I first drove an impreza back in '98 it was a revelation, super light machine with 200bhp it felt really quick and handled well plus 4wd traction. You forgave it the poor build 'cos it did so much else well. The last cars were heavy and although 300bhp made it quicker is was actually less fun.. plus the build/cabin quality hadn't moved on at all where it's competitors we're massively improved (compare a mk3 gti with a mk6).
Factor in the £32k list price of mine and it's no wonder the end of the road was going to come.
Still sad though.
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I've owned 4 Subaru's and I was of they very first to own the redesigned 2003 "Blobeye" Type UK STI. I had it for 4 years and then picked up a 2006 JDM Hawkeye STI
I loved my scoobies but day to day I prefer driving my ED30.
I do miss the power I had and the sure-footedness, it never ran out of grip. I had only changed the exhaust, panel filter and remap and she made 350bhp/365torque.
When I put the power down, all of it transfered to the road without any wheel spin.
That is the one thing i miss in my ED30 and why I am looking to getting a Golf R.
But I dont think I would go back.
The servicing wasn't any more expensive than my ED's and the parts were generally cheaper than what is on offer to VAG, the running costs in terms of fuel was a killer.
220 miles out of an 11gallon tank on a run and a lot less for day to day driving.
My friend had an evo 8 and it was a was a different animal. Just as fast and maybe more grippy but mainly because the car did alot for you.
There has always been a huge rivalry between the 2 cars and it generally comes down to a bad driver could go alot faster in an Evo.
But I am happy I made the switch and other than 4 wheel drive, that is all I really miss.
The main killer was the pricing of the car. When I got my 2003 STI I paid 24K for it, the same car now is 34k and isn't really that differently spec'd. Its slower if anything and has the weaker 2.5L engine. Unlike the 2001-2005 and the JDM 2L engine. You also get the 2.5L in the UK Hawkeye and that engine was chocolate!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv61%2Fmajinvash%2FIMG_3967.jpg&hash=06a7bf16a1eb3feff3f073df11ea63797e453232)
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Aw happy memories
That's a mint looking Scoob mate, have to say.. What sort of times/speeds did it run at Pod out of interest?
I have always loved Evo's and Scoobs over the years and been close to buying one a few times. Problem now is they just haven't moved on with the game and they are no longer the rapid 4 door saloon they use to be.
The most recent UK WRX Impreza was shockingly slow by comparison and they have nothing else in their locker to make you want one. The looks have gone down the drain (big time), interiors are still awful, fuel consumption/Co2 has never got any better (unlike most manufactures) and they still cost the same as a hot VAG...
Real shame, but they only have them selves to blame..
Thanks, I did spoil it :)
My best ever run was 12.83 after a very violent launch and perfect changes.
I usually ran around 13.5 because I was worried about damaging the gearbox, clutch and drive train.
Santa POD 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PllUuJVOfk&list=UU4Bkkbwf55ZktV4ihBoDIhA&index=8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PllUuJVOfk&list=UU4Bkkbwf55ZktV4ihBoDIhA&index=8)
Thorney Island on normal tarmac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmMyaMscNzU&feature=share&list=UU4Bkkbwf55ZktV4ihBoDIhA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmMyaMscNzU&feature=share&list=UU4Bkkbwf55ZktV4ihBoDIhA)
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That is a stunning Subaru. Always been more of an Evo fan though, love the 8/9 and 10.