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Title: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Boothy on December 17, 2012, 08:33:05 pm
Evening folks.

I'm expecting my first child in May and have been looking into the world of baby monitors, specifically the use of IP cameras for doing this. Having looked into this it doesn't seem quite as straight forward as I first though and was hoping that somebody on here might have experience with doing the same thing?

What I want to know really is the following:

- will any IP camera be suitable for the job?
- how secure are they, do i need a password protected camera etc? I don't want some degenerate eyeballing my child.
- how easy are they to set up and what are the potential issues?
- recommended software for viewing on PC and Andriod smart phone?

All help greatly appreciated.

Boothy  :happy2:
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: andrewparker on December 17, 2012, 08:35:36 pm
Why do you want an IP camera? Won't a normal baby monitor suffice?

FWIW We have this one - http://www.monitormybaby.co.uk/products/BT-Baby-Monitor-and-Pacifier.html?gclid=CMz_iomlorQCFXHLtAodJjAAwg
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Boothy on December 17, 2012, 08:38:53 pm
Yeah a normal monitor will do the job but I can get an IP camera for £30 with nigh vision and fancied the next level of monitoring. Its also handy for perving on the babysitter!
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: zerolag on December 17, 2012, 08:41:31 pm
I've been looking at IP cameras too, but like you have found it a bit of a mine field.

I think the quality of pic will come down to the quality and size of the sensor.

The security will be sorted by WPA2, so no doubt safe enough.

I don't really want to spend a lot on this, but fear that without some cash thrown at it, your going to get cr@p pic quality.

Not sure what these are like:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-camera-Pan-Tilt-2-ways/dp/B00432J56G/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: zerolag on December 17, 2012, 08:42:52 pm
Or the nightview one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/webcam-Internet-infrated-Nightview-Wireless/dp/B003VUY5PW/ref=pd_sim_ce_4
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: andrewparker on December 17, 2012, 08:43:04 pm
The most important thing with a baby monitor is that it measures room temperature. I wouldn't buy one that doesn't.

If you're really bothered about an IP camera I'd only buy one to supplement a proper baby monitor, most certainly not instead of it. But to be honest I think the novelty would be short lived.
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: scopes on December 17, 2012, 08:43:15 pm
Yeah a normal monitor will do the job but I can get an IP camera for £30 with nigh vision and fancied the next level of monitoring. Its also handy for perving on the babysitter!

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Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: zerolag on December 17, 2012, 08:47:08 pm
Quite like this one too; seems to work well on iPad, has nightvision and pan and tilt: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foscam-FI8918W-Wireless-Camera-Viewing/dp/B0046710G6/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

What are you shooting for?
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Boothy on December 17, 2012, 08:47:48 pm
Been looking at the ones on Amazon too. Reviews seem to be petty good.
The most important thing with a baby monitor is that it measures room temperature. I wouldn't buy one that doesn't.

If you're really bothered about an IP camera I'd only buy one to supplement a proper baby monitor, most certainly not instead of it. But to be honest I think the novelty would be short lived.

This was going to be the case anyway mate but thanks for the heads up  :happy2:
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: zerolag on December 17, 2012, 09:08:18 pm
Foscam FI8910W seems to do everything I want it to... a bit more than I wanted to spend but reviews seem good.  Does anyone really know about this stuff?
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: neg on December 17, 2012, 11:16:50 pm
We've had the BT 150 (older unit) for both our kids, works well and picks up everything you need to hear.  I thought about a camera but never got round to it - if your going to do it, do it before they arrive!
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: rich83 on December 18, 2012, 12:23:12 am
Yeah a normal monitor will do the job but I can get an IP camera for £30 with nigh vision and fancied the next level of monitoring. Its also handy for perving on the babysitter!


I wouldnt want some degenerate eyeballing my daughter whilst she is babysitting.....   :wink:
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Lone_Par on December 18, 2012, 07:38:00 am
Agree with Andrew, a simple monitor with temp sensor is all that's required. Appreciate your desire for that extra level of reassurance but I think all these cameras are overkill IMHO.
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: GTImike on December 18, 2012, 01:04:30 pm
We've got a set of these which are quite handy

http://www.babymonitorsdirect.co.uk/products/380/Motorola-MBP28-Digital-Baby-Monitor-with-2-Cameras-.html

Had a BT 150 with our daughter when she was a baby three years ago and it was fine when working but it packed up after 12 months. This Motorola one has two colour/night vision camera's, a colour base unit with decent range/battery, temperature read out, intercom, lullabies etc all for £75.00.

It does give peace of mind now that we've had our little boy six months ago as he has a tendency to pull blankets into his mouth so we can keep an eye on that without having to venture across the creaky landing waking them up, plus the second camera is good to give our little girl (3 and half) a gentle roasting if she is playing in her bedroom rather than going to sleep.  :fighting:  :grin:

I was a bit sceptical about the need for one before we had our boy but a total convert now, handy till they are about 18 months old IMO
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: andrewparker on December 18, 2012, 01:44:33 pm

It does give peace of mind now that we've had our little boy six months ago as he has a tendency to pull blankets into his mouth so we can keep an eye on that without having to venture across the creaky landing waking them up, plus the second camera is good to give our little girl (3 and half) a gentle roasting if she is playing in her bedroom rather than going to sleep.  :fighting:  :grin:


That's where sleeping bags are useful. Do you take the blanket off him when you go to sleep?
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Lone_Par on December 18, 2012, 06:55:28 pm

It does give peace of mind now that we've had our little boy six months ago as he has a tendency to pull blankets into his mouth so we can keep an eye on that without having to venture across the creaky landing waking them up, plus the second camera is good to give our little girl (3 and half) a gentle roasting if she is playing in her bedroom rather than going to sleep.  :fighting:  :grin:


That's where sleeping bags are useful. Do you take the blanket off him when you go to sleep?

Yep those grobag things are good.
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: MC71 on December 18, 2012, 07:09:03 pm
I have no idea about today's baby monitors but 20 odd years ago they only made a couple of different kinds and although it never happened to us, heard of quite a few peeps would pick up signals from other similar machines from all around the neighbourhood and hear all sorts of shenanigans.

I don't know if its true but it always made me smile. :laugh:



Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: RedRobin on December 18, 2012, 07:19:15 pm
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Why don't you have the baby in a cot in your bedroom with you? Both our babies (born 4 yrs apart) mostly slept in the same bed as us until they stopped breast feeding. I'm talking about babies here, not very young children.
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: andrewparker on December 18, 2012, 07:41:37 pm
Yeah, they don't suggest you put babies in the same bed as yourself anymore!

Having said that they don't suggest you put your baby to sleep on his/her front, and we've always done that with our latest arrival. She won't sleep any other way!
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: MC71 on December 18, 2012, 08:12:41 pm
Yeah, they don't suggest you put babies in the same bed as yourself anymore!

Having said that they don't suggest you put your baby to sleep on his/her front, and we've always done that with our latest arrival. She won't sleep any other way!

Our daughter had her own baby at the end of last year (1yr old on the 29th  :love:)  and the advice the health care professionals give nowadays is scary as hell and worried her a lot regarding was she doing the right thing. Luckily enough my wife (being a nurse) soon put them straight!  :grin:

When ours "kicked off" and they wouldn't settle they would be bought into our bed (anything for a quiet night), completely natural and all this mumbo jumbo handed out by "so called" experts is taking the joy out of it and leaving today's patents paranoid about every step they take. It's hard enough bringing up kids without being told how to do it by a person who read about it in a text book.
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Lone_Par on December 18, 2012, 08:17:34 pm
^^^^^ Totally agree. Ours is 4 in April and you do have to take what they say with a pinch of salt. Every child is different. We were the same, Zack would never sleep on his back, was eating baby rice probably about 2 months too early according to the advisors, but he was a hungry lad and its not done him any harm! Well other than turning him into a cheeky little shi..........!!!!!
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: RedRobin on December 18, 2012, 08:31:21 pm

Yeah, they don't suggest you put babies in the same bed as yourself anymore!

Having said that they don't suggest you put your baby to sleep on his/her front, and we've always done that with our latest arrival. She won't sleep any other way!


Our daughter had her own baby at the end of last year (1yr old on the 29th  :love:)  and the advice the health care professionals give nowadays is scary as hell and worried her a lot regarding was she doing the right thing. Luckily enough my wife (being a nurse) soon put them straight!  :grin:

When ours "kicked off" and they wouldn't settle they would be bought into our bed (anything for a quiet night), completely natural and all this mumbo jumbo handed out by "so called" experts is taking the joy out of it and leaving today's patents paranoid about every step they take. It's hard enough bringing up kids without being told how to do it by a person who read about it in a text book.


^^^^ Hear !! Hear !!  :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:

What the feck did parents do before all the so-called 'experts' started pontificating about what parents should and shouldn't do!?

You don't need a text book to learn what comes perfectly naturally and what is common sense. Does anyone need a text book to learn how to create babies in the first place?

'Experts' banging on about what a parent should or shouldn't do merely creates stress in the parents and particularly the mother - Not a good thing for babies. The whole process is better when stress free. Just ignore the experts and do what feels natural to you as parents.  
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: RedRobin on December 18, 2012, 08:33:47 pm

^^^^^ Totally agree. Ours is 4 in April and you do have to take what they say with a pinch of salt. Every child is different. We were the same, Zack would never sleep on his back, was eating baby rice probably about 2 months too early according to the advisors, but he was a hungry lad and its not done him any harm! Well other than turning him into a cheeky little shi..........!!!!!


....That's because he takes after you, mate! - It's in his genes  :laugh:

I agree - Every child is different and so are the parents.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Lone_Par on December 18, 2012, 10:13:48 pm
^^^^ This is true!!
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Boothy on December 20, 2012, 04:11:14 pm
We've got a set of these which are quite handy

http://www.babymonitorsdirect.co.uk/products/380/Motorola-MBP28-Digital-Baby-Monitor-with-2-Cameras-.html

Had a BT 150 with our daughter when she was a baby three years ago and it was fine when working but it packed up after 12 months. This Motorola one has two colour/night vision camera's, a colour base unit with decent range/battery, temperature read out, intercom, lullabies etc all for £75.00.

It does give peace of mind now that we've had our little boy six months ago as he has a tendency to pull blankets into his mouth so we can keep an eye on that without having to venture across the creaky landing waking them up, plus the second camera is good to give our little girl (3 and half) a gentle roasting if she is playing in her bedroom rather than going to sleep.  :fighting:  :grin:

I was a bit sceptical about the need for one before we had our boy but a total convert now, handy till they are about 18 months old IMO

They look really good value so may go for those.

As for keeping the baby in our room then yes, initially I will but I would rather it got used to being in a room on its own as soon as possible. A friend let their child sleep in the same bed as them for ages and now they are stuck as the child will not sleep unless it is in the same room. I spoke to my parents about this and they told me that I was in my own room within one week and I turned out ok....................i think.
Title: Re: Advice needed - IP Cameras
Post by: Lone_Par on December 20, 2012, 04:30:43 pm
Our wee one was punted into his own room after about 2 months, mainly because he outgrew his Moses basket. As for sleeping in our bed - didn't happen when he was small, very rarely now as well unless he's ill!