MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Hurdy on December 18, 2012, 06:38:55 pm
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Should be a good one. :smiley:
I think they may have a pic of my ugly mug in it too :wink:
http://www.autometrix.co.uk/Volkswagen/current_issue.html
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There's a pretty good article on the APR Golf R as well.
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There's a pretty good article on the APR Golf R as well.
Yep, I've just been reading it. 0-60 mph in 3.3 seconds is RAPID :driver:
Not sure about their choice of brakes or coil overs though ......and still running 225 section tyres! :surprised: come on APR you should be rocking 235's as a minimum.
Also good to read the histology of the performance AWD golfs. Plus the long awaited 2dr Golf R test drive.
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Think I'll pick this up tomorrow, thanks for the heads up Hurdy :happy2:
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your car's looking good john, good magazine this month. You could have smiled in the photo :signLOL:
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There's a pretty good article on the APR Golf R as well.
Yep, I've just been reading it. 0-60 mph in 3.3 seconds is RAPID :driver:
Not sure about their choice of brakes or coil overs though ......and still running 225 section tyres! :surprised: come on APR you should be rocking 235's as a minimum.
Also good to read the histology of the performance AWD golfs. Plus the long awaited 2dr Golf R test drive.
What brakes are they running?
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your car's looking good john, good magazine this month. You could have smiled in the photo :signLOL:
I'd look even more goofy than in that pic if I'd smiled. :laugh:
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There's a pretty good article on the APR Golf R as well.
Yep, I've just been reading it. 0-60 mph in 3.3 seconds is RAPID :driver:
Not sure about their choice of brakes or coil overs though ......and still running 225 section tyres! :surprised: come on APR you should be rocking 235's as a minimum.
Also good to read the histology of the performance AWD golfs. Plus the long awaited 2dr Golf R test drive.
What brakes are they running?
VWRacing 6pots with 352x32mm 2 piece discs (non-floating by the looks of it)
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There's a pretty good article on the APR Golf R as well.
Yep, I've just been reading it. 0-60 mph in 3.3 seconds is RAPID :driver:
Not sure about their choice of brakes or coil overs though ......and still running 225 section tyres! :surprised: come on APR you should be rocking 235's as a minimum.
Also good to read the histology of the performance AWD golfs. Plus the long awaited 2dr Golf R test drive.
I thought those AST coilovers were excellent. They are the only ones i've ever tried that aren't crashy on normal roads. If i was in the market for some coilovers they would top my last thats for sure. Ive decided against coilovers full stop though.
Why 235's? its doing a 3.3 0-60 so its not traction. And too much grip will mean it bogs down surely.
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why you not sure about the brakes ? they work :confused:
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Why 235's? its doing a 3.3 0-60 so its not traction. And too much grip will mean it bogs down surely.
More grip means better cornering as well as being able to launch at a higher rpm.
I'm running 235's and they are superb :smiley: and I'd probably go even wider!
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why you not sure about the brakes ? they work :confused:
I'm a pot count whore remember Mat :evilgrin: also over on the R forum I've had reports that they squeal a little. Not sure if it is the set-up or the pads though.
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Why 235's? its doing a 3.3 0-60 so its not traction. And too much grip will mean it bogs down surely.
More grip means better cornering as well as being able to launch at a higher rpm.
I'm running 235's and they are superb :smiley: and I'd probably go even wider!
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Not needed IMO. Its still a road car at the end of the day, its not a race car. When i had it i dont think at any point it crossed my mind that it needed wider tyres or any more grip. Too much grip will just end up being boring anyway, a little slipping and sliding is needed :driver:
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Another vote for the awesome ASTs
It certainly stops too!!! :driver:
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Those AST coilovers are mega! Handles like a go kart with them. Impressed me 100% would leave my TTRS in the twisties no problems
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Those AST coilovers are mega! Handles like a go kart with them. Impressed me 100% would leave my TTRS in the twisties no problems
Plus if they decide to turn it more track orientated there are linear springs available as well. Thats what SteveP had on his iirc.
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Why 235's? its doing a 3.3 0-60 so its not traction. And too much grip will mean it bogs down surely.
More grip means better cornering as well as being able to launch at a higher rpm.
I'm running 235's and they are superb :smiley: and I'd probably go even wider!
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Not needed IMO. Its still a road car at the end of the day, its not a race car. When i had it i dont think at any point it crossed my mind that it needed wider tyres or any more grip. Too much grip will just end up being boring anyway, a little slipping and sliding is needed :driver:
You're obviously doing it wrong or not trying hard enough then Sy :P
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You're obviously doing it wrong or not trying hard enough then Sy :P
I like my licence too much :innocent:
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Those AST coilovers are mega! Handles like a go kart with them. Impressed me 100% would leave my TTRS in the twisties no problems
I guess I'd have to try them back to back against my car to be sure. Or are you also not trying hard enough like Sy :wink:
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You're obviously doing it wrong or not trying hard enough then Sy :P
I like my licence too much :innocent:
Don't worry Sy, once you are up in the back of beyond there are plenty of chances to open up an R without attracting the plod. :wink:
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Those AST coilovers are mega! Handles like a go kart with them. Impressed me 100% would leave my TTRS in the twisties no problems
I guess I'd have to try them back to back against my car to be sure. Or are you also not trying hard enough like Sy :wink:
I think it was a feb or march, how we kept it out of the barriers in the conditions at the time I do not know :signLOL:
Roundabouts dont exist in that car :notworthy:
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Thought you'd already tried them John having Not being sure on APRs choice of coilover
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Those AST coilovers are mega! Handles like a go kart with them. Impressed me 100% would leave my TTRS in the twisties no problems
Plus if they decide to turn it more track orientated there are linear springs available as well. Thats what SteveP had on his iirc.
That maybe where I've got the idea in my head about the AST's being fairly harsh as I can remember Steve saying he couldn't stand the noise and ride on the journey down to JKM's earlier this year.
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Progressive springs for the road, linear springs for the track. Simples.
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Those AST coilovers are mega! Handles like a go kart with them. Impressed me 100% would leave my TTRS in the twisties no problems
I guess I'd have to try them back to back against my car to be sure. Or are you also not trying hard enough like Sy :wink:
Roundabouts dont exist in that car :notworthy:
I know that feeling. I sh!t myself going round some roundabouts as the car is that planted. You literally are out the other side before you realise you've entered! :laugh:
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I need an R in my life. (not just to store at AKS before any one says it :grin:)
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I need an R in my life. (not just to store at AKS before any one says it :grin:)
Tiptronic S3 for me.
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Thought you'd already tried them John having Not being sure on APRs choice of coilover
No, but I remember someone telling me they weren't exactly comfortable. For me the Bilsteins are perfect and perfectly adjustable too :wink:
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Wish I went PSS10 over KwV3 even if only for the easier adjustability
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I need an R in my life. (not just to store at AKS before any one says it :grin:)
I was thinking that as I read it Mike. :grin:
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I need an R in my life. (not just to store at AKS before any one says it :grin:)
Tiptronic S3 for me.
Noooooo!
Nice car, but I'd take an R over one any day. :smiley:
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Wish I went PSS10 over KwV3 even if only for the easier adjustability
If you'd have listened to me when I had the Ed30 you'd have already got them. The KW's are okay, but not in the same league as a mono tube designed suspension system. :smiley:
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I splashed out on the V3s very early on. Rushed into it I think.
Did you have bilsteins on at that snowy elsecar meet 4/5 years ago?
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Thought you'd already tried them John having Not being sure on APRs choice of coilover
No, but I remember someone telling me they weren't exactly comfortable. For me the Bilsteins are perfect and perfectly adjustable too :wink:
Iirc the bilsteins have quite soft springs, good for everyday comfort, but might bottom up on hard track use. The AST's are a more track orientated option.
I'm trying to decide between AST's and bilsteins myself. Comfort vs ultimate handling. I think the bilsteins will be more than adequate for my usage and provide a big step up handling wise at the same time. Don't really do that much track work.
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I splashed out on the V3s very early on. Rushed into it I think.
Did you have bilsteins on at that snowy elsecar meet 4/5 years ago?
No, I had Eibachs. Not bad but didn't last.
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I got sent some v-box data on the APR golf R the other day. Quicker than a lambo LP640 100-200 :scared:
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Thought you'd already tried them John having Not being sure on APRs choice of coilover
No, but I remember someone telling me they weren't exactly comfortable. For me the Bilsteins are perfect and perfectly adjustable too :wink:
Iirc the bilsteins have quite soft springs, good for everyday comfort, but might bottom up on hard track use. The AST's are a more track orientated option.
I'm trying to decide between AST's and bilsteins myself. Comfort vs ultimate handling. I think the bilsteins will be more than adequate for my usage and provide a big step up handling wise at the same time. Don't really do that much track work.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised how good the Bilsteins were on track. They were fooking awesome on the Nurburgring and at Spa. :happy2:
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I got sent some v-box data on the APR golf R the other day. Quicker than a lambo LP640 100-200 :scared:
62-124mph! What time?
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I got sent some v-box data on the APR golf R the other day. Quicker than a lambo LP640 100-200 :scared:
62-124mph! What time?
I think his latest 100-200 is 8.1
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It was in the 7's, two man up I think
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Re: suspension, you don't want stiff springs unless you're running slicks - some compliance is a good thing, particularly at places like Cadwell/Oulton/Spa/Ring.
AST kit is mega, as is Bilstein. I'd also have a good look at Nitron's custom work. If you're serious about having a kit made up specific to your car and needs by an industry expert, I know a guy.
Oh, and feck me that's quick. I'm looking forward to the R-off at Inters.
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AST's FTW but im biased obviously with them being on mine. :evilgrin:
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:drool: :drool:
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Which set are they. Remote resovoirs as well :drool: I bet they were cheap :grin:
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They are the full race 3 way setup ast's. Got them for a good cash price from a good mate! :wink:
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They are the full race 3 way setup ast's. Got them for a good cash price from a good mate! :wink:
Have you tried these on the road Shaun?
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AST's FTW but im biased obviously with them being on mine. :evilgrin:
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Awesome :drool: :drool: :drool:
Proper front and back coilovers :driver:
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Proper front and back coilovers :driver:
Must admit, the AST setups are the first ones that I have seen which actually use a coilover for the rears as well as the fronts.
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Proper front and back coilovers :driver:
Must admit, the AST setups are the first ones that I have seen which actually use a coilover for the rears as well as the fronts.
AFAIK usually its only the top end proper track coilover setups that do.
I know that the ones fitted to the APR Golf R is their street version, but I think even those are proper front and back coilovers too. Probably explains why it handles so well.
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I've had experience with a lot of different setups over the yrs now being in my late 30's, on a lot of different vehicles. It isn't a biased opinion in any shape or form, but the Ast's are just phenomenal! One of the biggest benefits I'm finding with the rear setup being proper coilovers aswell is the back end feels a lot more planted and I think this is due to being permanently connected to the chassis as opposed to a spring being lodged in between. Yes I know it is connected via the shock, but it just doesn't have the same effect. They are night and day difference over my kw v3's I had fitted previous, when set up on full hard and the ast's on full soft they are still firmer. John from the brief experience I've had on road with the, everyone is different I could live with them on full soft but it just depends what you want. I am not using mine everyday like you pal so it may be a bit much, but that also depends on of you are going to set up the current choice you have in mind on full hard. Cheers.
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Seeing yours is making me want AST's again.
I have the full 2012 price list infront of me. Not cheap, but worth the money :driver:
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If I was to buy coilovers, the only ones I would consider would be the AST setup on the demo APR Golf R. All the the ones Ive experienced have been much harsher for road use and just too much for daily pottering about.
Im only running springs, ARBs and poly bushes and mine its an absolute riot to drive, really responsive yet comfortable. Ill probably leave mine as is tbh, as much as id love it to be a 100% track hack, ultimately its used on the road 95% of the time.