MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Panthera on December 19, 2012, 08:39:16 pm
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Can VW change/remove the bong when the outside temp (OST) drops below 4dec C. As it is driving me potty. Picture this, driving enthusiastically and then all of a sudden hear this bong. "Whats that!" I wonder. I slow down and look at the dash, and see the OST has dropped to 4 dec c. Do I really need to be told. Sorry I digress. So is it possible to either remove the bong or have it set at 0 dec c?
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Lolz
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It's fine where I am because its rarely above 4 degrees.
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I've begun to be pre-programmed to ignore the VAG bongs during enthusiastic driving.
However, there may well be somewhere in the depths of VCDS to turn this cr@p off... I'll have a look tomorrow.
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The bong is there to warn you that there could be ice on the road as the temperature is low.
I wouldn't be driving enthusiasticly with the possibility of black ice on the roads
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The bong is there to warn you that there could be ice on the road as the temperature is low.
I wouldn't be driving enthusiasticly with the possibility of black ice on the roads
Exactly! Some common sense at long last.
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LOL!
I know it's cold, I don't need a computer to tell me!
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Yes, but the question really is why on earth are you driving so fast (in cold conditions) that looking at the dash, where the speedo is, causes your attention to be drawn from the road?
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Best engine performance in the cold.
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Best engine performance in the cold.
So add that to poor weather conditions on the roads... :confused:
What do you get?
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Best engine performance in the cold.
So add that to poor weather conditions on the roads... :confused:
What do you get?
A bong on the dash reminding you of the cold conditions?
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Wouldn't mind but It's the same bong for low oil, low coolant, and any other thing it warns about! Could be anything happening with it!
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I thought the 4 degree bong was to make me aware of a better induction charge. I always use this as a sign to speed up! :driver:
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LOL!
I know it's cold, I don't need a computer to tell me!
....But you're not a computer, you are human and prone to all the human failings which include not always realising just how cold it is outside. In the days before in-car temperature info I've rolled a car on black ice (a long and very amusing story) - Outside temperatures fluctuate and monitoring them with the help of a bong is usually the only way you can be aware of the liklihood.... Unless it's too late!! :driver:
Many a time have I been driving fast on a cold morning but feeling how my tyres are performing, consequently being very focussed on that and not the gauges, and then the bong alerts me to 4 degrees and I know to slow down and take extra care.
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Bear in mind things like aircon won't work below around 4-5*C.
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Wouldn't mind but It's the same bong for low oil, low coolant, and any other thing it warns about! Could be anything happening with it!
....That's exactly the gripe I have. Driving at speed it's not nice to hear a sudden alert bong. I quickly got rid of the default bong when reaching 70 mph - You're in the middle of a fast overtake and you suddenly hear "bong!" - It's actually potentially dangerous in my opinion. I was driving someone else's car recently with them as passenger and suddenly it went "bong!" so my immediate thought was "sh*t!" and I lifted off the throttle. He then told me it was set at 100 mph. Sensible in a way for the UK as it's a ban, but the same bong is not a good idea.
Nikon offer options of different sounds on their Coolpix S30 (including a chicken and a barking dog!) so why can't Volkswagen manage to do so?
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Bear in mind things like aircon won't work below around 4-5*C.
....Sorry Jaz, but I don't understand why that's important - Probably becauser I very rarely use either aircon or the car heater except to demist.
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LOL!
I know it's cold, I don't need a computer to tell me!
....But you're not a computer, you are human and prone to all the human failings which include not always realising just how cold it is outside. In the days before in-car temperature info I've rolled a car on black ice (a long and very amusing story) - Outside temperatures fluctuate and monitoring them with the help of a bong is usually the only way you can be aware of the liklihood.... Unless it's too late!! :driver:
Many a time have I been driving fast on a cold morning but feeling how my tyres are performing, consequently being very focussed on that and not the gauges, and then the bong alerts me to 4 degrees and I know to slow down and take extra care.
Oops accidentally thanked you for this! You can keep it though :).
Black ice and rolling a car is exactly what happened to me!
The bong is a tad worrying because like it's been pointed out it's the same for everything. But once it alerts me to the temperature I always take extra care which can never be a bad thing :smiley:
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Rache, you can ring my bong and give me a Thank You anytime you like :evilgrin: :laugh:
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Rache, you can ring my bong and give me a Thank You anytime you like :evilgrin: :laugh:
:signLOL: how do you manage to make it sound seedy! Impressive skill.
I'll ring ya bong just give me a bell :wink:, won't thank you for it though :P
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Bear in mind things like aircon won't work below around 4-5*C.
....Sorry Jaz, but I don't understand why that's important - Probably becauser I very rarely use either aircon or the car heater except to demist.
Don't tell me you've never had the heated seats on full chat and the air con on LO, just to kill a few polar bears. :surprised:
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I find it takes longer to warm the car up and to demist when the AC is off.
How many different tones do you need? :laugh: Bong + warning light +/- warning message is enough for me.
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How do you manage to make it sound seedy!
I think Robin could make anything sound seedy...
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I think Robin could make anything sound seedy...
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Very very true! Far too many innuendos for me :innocent:
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Don't tell me you've never had the heated seats on full chat and the air con on LO, just to kill a few polar bears. :surprised:
....Never, I've never had heated seats fitted in my car, I don't like them, and anyway my car has Recaro's. If it's a cold (or wet) day I'll dress accordingly.
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Heated seats are pure win.... :happy2:
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I think Robin could make anything sound seedy...
Very very true! Far too many innuendos for me :innocent:
.....If you ever want me to stop, rache, you have only to PM or tell me publicly and I will immediately stop. But so far you respond as good as you get and seem to enjoy the banter. Although we have never met, I'm confident that you realise that I mean no harm or discomfort. :happy2:
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Heated seats are pure win.... :happy2:
....Nah, they're gay. Who wants a hot arse?
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Its good for my bad back Robin.... the hot ass is just a bonus! :chicken:
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RR, don't be saft..... :drinking:
Now wheres that bong.... :party:
Just realised the drug implications of that comment.
Heated seats are amazing though, does start to feel like you've wet yourself after a while though. Might be on my own with that one....
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Its good for my bad back Robin.... the hot ass is just a bonus! :chicken:
....Ah, now I understand. Heat treatment can definitely help injuries or similar conditions, especially muscular. Sorry to hear that, Rich.
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Don't tell me you've never had the heated seats on full chat and the air con on LO, just to kill a few polar bears. :surprised:
....Never, I've never had heated seats fitted in my car, I don't like them, and anyway my car has Recaro's. If it's a cold (or wet) day I'll dress accordingly.
Do u need a computer to let you know what to wear? (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whoneedscupid.com%2Fimage%2Fwink-icon.gif&hash=fd39f2f457121d7a41881b5f555b62dd49d1b54b)
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Do u need a computer to let you know what to wear? (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whoneedscupid.com%2Fimage%2Fwink-icon.gif&hash=fd39f2f457121d7a41881b5f555b62dd49d1b54b)
....Not entirely but this iPad App helps to know what weather to expect, to dress accordingly and, being German, it's incredibly reliable:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FiPad%2FWeatherPro_900v2.jpg&hash=bc31d664601cb010f5d99dc43f8d7461ca92b806)
^ It's called WeatherPro and mine is the free version.
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hehe, will have to grab a cpy.
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hehe, will have to grab a cpy.
....It really is very good and also a clear interface. I've had mine for a while now.
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Do u need a computer to let you know what to wear? (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whoneedscupid.com%2Fimage%2Fwink-icon.gif&hash=fd39f2f457121d7a41881b5f555b62dd49d1b54b)
....Not entirely but this iPad App helps to know what weather to expect, to dress accordingly and, being German, it's incredibly reliable:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FiPad%2FWeatherPro_900v2.jpg&hash=bc31d664601cb010f5d99dc43f8d7461ca92b806)
^ It's called WeatherPro and mine is the free version.
Nice setup Robin
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I didnt realise you had a mac pro robin...
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Nice setup Robin
....Thanks :happy2:
Mackie mixer, and studio reference monitors plus big Mackie 450W stage monitor connected as well, also in the setup with mics and miles of cables! Some Logic controller Apps on the iPad too. I'm sat in the sweet spot - No wonder my post count is so high!
I didnt realise you had a mac pro robin...
....It's my old G5 (non-Intel) but it's such a nice object that I decided to leave it in dead space to enjoy its funky apperance. I use a 27" iMac with wireless keyboard and TrackPad. :happy2:
The iPad stand is made by German K&M who are well known for their music stands - Great product which easily swivels to and from landscape to portrait.
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Heated seats are amazing though, does start to feel like you've wet yourself after a while though. Might be on my own with that one....
had a friend in the car and the passanger seat heater was on, my freind asked me in a rather conserned voice, are these seats heated, i said yeh, he said pheww i thought i pissed myself for a moment then :P lol
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Heated seats are pure win.... :happy2:
....Nah, they're gay. Who wants a hot arse?
Heated seats (and steering wheel) are an important part of an integrated thermal management approach to reduce unncessary engine loadings: by fitting heated seats (and steering wheel, not an option for our Golfs I'm afraid) the energy required to heat the cabin and any occupants to what is regarded as "comfortable" level can be reduced by up to 35%, which is not insignificant.
@Robin what this means is less engine power required to drive the alternator and ancillary devices and more power available for moving the vehicle.
More information on thermal management is available in this paper, amongst other sources:
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy10osti/47416.pdf
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Heated seats are pure win.... :happy2:
....Nah, they're gay. Who wants a hot arse?
Heated seats (and steering wheel) are an important part of an integrated thermal management approach to reduce unncessary engine loadings: by fitting heated seats (and steering wheel, not an option for our Golfs I'm afraid) the energy required to heat the cabin and any occupants to what is regarded as "comfortable" level can be reduced by up to 35%, which is not insignificant.
@Robin what this means is less engine power required to drive the alternator and ancillary devices and more power available for moving the vehicle.
More information on thermal management is available in this paper, amongst other sources:
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy10osti/47416.pdf
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....What scientics regard or term as "comfortable" for the car cabin occupants, and in particular the driver, will vary from individual to individual. For example, I feel distinctly uncomfortable with a car heater on for longer than just a few minutes to up the general temperature and I might even begin to feel drowsy. I am more comfortable using my clothing to adjust my body temperature and comfort.
The fact that you can hear the engine's revs change, if at a standstill, when switching on the car heater or demister etc clearly demonstrates that more energy/fuel is being used. However, I don't personally care two figs about energy efficiency levels when driving. I would never want to buy an electric or similar car because I would miss hearing the engine sounds which I enjoy so much.
So if I understand it correctly, by not using features such as the heater and/or heated seats, a car has more motive power available. That works well for me :happy2:
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Heated seats (and steering wheel) are an important part of an integrated thermal management approach to reduce unncessary engine loadings: by fitting heated seats (and steering wheel, not an option for our Golfs I'm afraid) the energy required to heat the cabin and any occupants to what is regarded as "comfortable" level can be reduced by up to 35%, which is not insignificant.
@Robin what this means is less engine power required to drive the alternator and ancillary devices and more power available for moving the vehicle.
More information on thermal management is available in this paper, amongst other sources:
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy10osti/47416.pdf
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....What scientics regard or term as "comfortable" for the car cabin occupants, and in particular the driver, will vary from individual to individual. For example, I feel distinctly uncomfortable with a car heater on for longer than just a few minutes to up the general temperature and I might even begin to feel drowsy. I am more comfortable using my clothing to adjust my body temperature and comfort.
The fact that you can hear the engine's revs change, if at a standstill, when switching on the car heater or demister etc clearly demonstrates that more energy/fuel is being used. However, I don't personally care two figs about energy efficiency levels when driving. I would never want to buy an electric or similar car because I would miss hearing the engine sounds which I enjoy so much.
So if I understand it correctly, by not using features such as the heater and/or heated seats, a car has more motive power available. That works well for me :happy2:
If you want some warmth in the cabin you will use less energy by using a seat heater instead of the normal blower/aircon. Less energy being used to heat the cabin -> less alternator load -> less parasitic loss on the engine -> more power available for things like driving.
QED, enthusiasts prefer seat heaters (as extra layers of clothes are greater mass).
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If you want some warmth in the cabin you will use less energy by using a seat heater instead of the normal blower/aircon. Less energy being used to heat the cabin -> less alternator load -> less parasitic loss on the engine -> more power available for things like driving.
QED, enthusiasts prefer seat heaters (as extra layers of clothes are greater mass).
....I'm sure that good thermal undergarments when it's cold are light and thin enough not to amount to a significant greater mass of clothing.
My Recaro seats don't have a heated option and neither did I tick that option box on my original GTI seats order to Wolfsburg.
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Loving the scientific ideas about heated seats being better. Not really worried which is better because I love my heated seats anyway! One of my favourite extras. Great on a frosty moring and as said above it can be real soothing on a bad back! As for feeling like you've wet yourself, well I've never done that so I don't know how it feels!! :laugh:
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....I'm sure that good thermal undergarments when it's cold are light and thin enough not to amount to a significant greater mass of clothing.
My Recaro seats don't have a heated option and neither did I tick that option box on my original GTI seats order to Wolfsburg.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftheoriginalrowanmccabe.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F01%2Fwrightslongjohns.jpg&hash=d40a19aae27ebd0ac3e0fa0da542be6057ca6c5a)
(slow day at the office in case you hadn't guessed, all the car companies have shut down for christmas)
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I've never felt the need to have heated seats unless you have leather, makes it a lot more comfortable on those icy mornings then.
Aren't heated seats heavier than standard items, especially racing seats.
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Not having leather seats (my strong personal preference not to have leather), the need or desire to heat cloth seats is far less.
I don't like electric blankets either, so perhaps it's just a personal comfort thing.