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Title: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 03:05:28 pm
I've mentioned on a few threads that I've been massively underwhelmed with my Revo Stage 1 map in comparison to the Storm & PDT maps. I mentioned this on a thread on their Facebook page, and they invited me up to HQ in Daventry today.

I met Kevin there who took the car out, datalogged it and came back reporting that it felt almost stock, and the reason for this was that, although the map was on, there were no settings! Not QUITE sure why this was, but I've been underwhelmed by it since it was done in September, so it's not something that's recently occurred. No wonder I thought Revo was over-rated!! A big thanks to Kevin @ Revo for sorting it out for me.  :happy2:

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Anyway, I took it out with it's new settings and OH MY FUC*ING GOD!!  :notworthy: It is so much quicker, particularly in the low rev range, but still massively quicker throughout the whole range. The torque is outrageous, sitting on the motorway doing 60 in 6th, I put the foot into the carpet and it just flies away like a big diesel! Back in love with my car. It feels quicker than my old car with PDT Stage 1 (which is a cracking drive, brilliant map) But it is also more economical than the Storm map. I got into the mid forties mpg driving sensibly around the A roads leading back to the M1. I never got that before. On the way up driving sensibly at between 60 and 70 I got 32.5mpg on a 91 mile trip, on the return journey, I got 35.7, and I was having a lot more fun, particularly with the torque! The acceleration for over-taking is in a different league now, and I've got that buzz back to just go out and drive for fun again that I used to get with my old PDT mapped car, and this one when it had a Storm map.

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But is it worth the extra dough? I'm not sure how big a gain the performance is against my old car (PDT). As I'm still insured on it, I might ask her If I can take it for a 'gentle'cruise' and then drive mine immediately after. However, if the fuel economy gains are the same in my area with my normal driving, then i'd say probably.
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: RENNTAG on December 20, 2012, 03:09:21 pm
Good to hear your car is running well Ian.

I would be interested to have a ride out in yours on saturday to see how it compares to my AMD map.

Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Hedge on December 20, 2012, 03:21:38 pm
No settings.  :confused:

Have you had the battery off?
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 03:24:53 pm
Good to hear your car is running well Ian.

I would be interested to have a ride out in yours on saturday to see how it compares to my AMD map.



No problem Ben  :happy2:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: PDT on December 20, 2012, 03:25:05 pm
Nice easy fix there! I admit that REVO does feel more urgent and aggressive than our maps, but thats the way we like it   :smiley:


you and the missus now need to go and race each other    :rolleye:

Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 03:25:33 pm
No settings.  :confused:

Have you had the battery off?

Nope.  :confused:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: RENNTAG on December 20, 2012, 03:27:01 pm

you and the missus now need to go and race each other    :rolleye:



 :happy2:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: bigmig95 on December 20, 2012, 03:28:37 pm
Are you using an SPS switch to apply the stage 1 map ?
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: bigmig95 on December 20, 2012, 03:31:07 pm
Apologies should have said 'were you' ?
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 03:31:19 pm
Nice easy fix there! I admit that REVO does feel more urgent and aggressive than our maps, but thats the way we like it   :smiley:


you and the missus now need to go and race each other    :rolleye:



Don't get me wrong Dave, I am a massive fan of your map, and as I mentioned, her (my ex now) car is a brilliant drive. The power delivery in that car is beautiful, so well balanced.
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 03:36:29 pm
Are you using an SPS switch to apply the stage 1 map ?

I don't have an SPS switch. I'm not entirley sure what Revo did to it!
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: E30Dom on December 20, 2012, 03:38:25 pm
Schweet! Welcome to the Revo gang! :happy2:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: TomGTI on December 20, 2012, 03:42:43 pm
If you don't mind me asking and I know its more how the car drives but what figures did u get?
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 20, 2012, 03:43:45 pm
Nice easy fix there! I admit that REVO does feel more urgent and aggressive than our maps, but thats the way we like it   :smiley:

Get yourself out in the rain and compare the two maps.  See which one wheel spins like crazy.  :driver:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Andy on December 20, 2012, 03:46:55 pm
glad you got it sorted
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 04:13:57 pm
If you don't mind me asking and I know its more how the car drives but what figures did u get?

Will let you know in the New year Tom. Initially I got 253 bhp and 295 lb /ft, but I'm booked in at Storm in  early January for rolling road again now Revo have sorted it out.
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 04:15:26 pm
Nice easy fix there! I admit that REVO does feel more urgent and aggressive than our maps, but thats the way we like it   :smiley:

Get yourself out in the rain and compare the two maps.  See which one wheel spins like crazy.  :driver:

The Revo didn't earlier. (much!)  :signLOL:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: TomGTI on December 20, 2012, 04:29:27 pm
Would love thoughs figure, childish but just so I can have more than my mate in his 32  :grin:

Just does come at a high price from REVO.
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Scrubadub on December 20, 2012, 04:40:09 pm
Does sound like the battery been disconnected or a fuse taken out or something causing the revo setings to go back to 0-0-0
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Sir_dave on December 20, 2012, 05:10:41 pm
Would love thoughs figure, childish but just so I can have more than my mate in his 32  :grin:

So you can sit in the rain wheelspinning whilst he's already 50 feet up the road?
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 05:33:28 pm
Does sound like the battery been disconnected or a fuse taken out or something causing the revo setings to go back to 0-0-0

I hear you, but I'd know about that if it had happened. It's not had a battery issue or disconnection, nothing electrical has gone wrong with it other than a bulb blowing. And it felt weedy from when I drove it out of  Storm Developments after installation.  :confused:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: markc on December 20, 2012, 05:35:35 pm
Nice figures for Stage 1 Ian  :happy2:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: markc on December 20, 2012, 05:36:29 pm
Would love thoughs figure, childish but just so I can have more than my mate in his 32  :grin:

So you can sit in the rain wheelspinning whilst he's already 50 feet up the road?

Oh no.......dont go there Dave  :scared:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Black9 on December 20, 2012, 05:38:11 pm
Good news. What settings were applied. Any engine mods?
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 20, 2012, 05:46:10 pm
Good news. What settings were applied. Any engine mods?

I'll find out from Kevin at Revo tomorrow re: settings. No engine mods other than RevD DV. Has recently had a big service with new plugs, new filters inc. Pipercross panel filter, oil change and cam follower, so all in tip-top order for remap. And always run on VPower of course!
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: RedRobin on December 20, 2012, 05:51:20 pm

Does sound like the battery been disconnected or a fuse taken out or something causing the revo setings to go back to 0-0-0


I hear you, but I'd know about that if it had happened. It's not had a battery issue or disconnection, nothing electrical has gone wrong with it other than a bulb blowing. And it felt weedy from when I drove it out of  Storm Developments after installation.  :confused:


....So do we conclude that Storm Developments weren't 'up to speed' enough to recognise that their Revo installation hadn't been completed properly? Didn't they log or test-drive your car after installing your first Revo remap?  :surprised:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: vRSAlex on December 20, 2012, 05:52:29 pm

Does sound like the battery been disconnected or a fuse taken out or something causing the revo setings to go back to 0-0-0


I hear you, but I'd know about that if it had happened. It's not had a battery issue or disconnection, nothing electrical has gone wrong with it other than a bulb blowing. And it felt weedy from when I drove it out of  Storm Developments after installation.  :confused:


....So do we conclude that Storm Developments weren't 'up to speed' enough to recognise that their Revo installation hadn't been completed properly? Didn't they log or test-drive your car after installing your first Revo remap?  :surprised:

Was just about to ask the same.
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: PDT on December 20, 2012, 06:01:36 pm
I send a lot of work to storm and am very good friends with the lads there, I have had this happen before where I tuned a car with Revo, datalogged it and all was good and then it's come in a few days later with 0-0-0 settings. Odd thing is I've only had it once.

Wonder what the voltage needs to drop to before the ME9 ECU loses the ability to store the data..... (Goes off to find my ME9 tech sheets)
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: maxload on December 20, 2012, 07:02:18 pm


Wonder what the voltage needs to drop to before the ME9 ECU loses the ability to store the data..... (Goes off to find my ME9 tech sheets)

You've got me worried now as I haven't driven mine for a week  :scared:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: RedRobin on December 20, 2012, 07:32:20 pm

Wonder what the voltage needs to drop to before the ME9 ECU loses the ability to store the data..... (Goes off to find my ME9 tech sheets)


You've got me worried now as I haven't driven mine for a week  :scared:


....Nowadays I often don't drive her for 7-10 days but then I'll go for a fun drive just to exercise her and satisfy my lust. I've never had a data loss due to this. I'm on Revo Stage 2 installed and looked after by JKM and by Revo HQ.

Revo Kev is a top bloke who knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: MC71 on December 20, 2012, 08:58:39 pm
Nice to hear your back in love with the Golf again fella!

SPS switch is needed I think!  :happy2:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: Hedge on December 20, 2012, 09:36:59 pm
Nice easy fix there! I admit that REVO does feel more urgent and aggressive than our maps, but thats the way we like it   :smiley:

Get yourself out in the rain and compare the two maps.  See which one wheel spins like crazy.  :driver:

Power is nothing without control.  :wink:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: TomGTI on December 21, 2012, 10:07:48 am
Would love thoughs figure, childish but just so I can have more than my mate in his 32  :grin:

So you can sit in the rain wheelspinning whilst he's already 50 feet up the road?

Don't think I mentioned a drag race only figures.  :happy2:
Title: Re: REVO: I Take it all back!!!!
Post by: PDT on December 21, 2012, 01:43:34 pm
Nice to hear your back in love with the Golf again fella!

SPS switch is needed I think!  :happy2:


 :wink:

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