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Title: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: JJ on December 21, 2012, 06:15:40 pm
...because some thieving turd has stolen mine... 

Spotted in the station car park at Rowley Regis, West Midlands.  Poor sod. 

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Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Nodz on December 21, 2012, 06:49:44 pm
Hate this kind of thing with a passion  :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:

I my other half wonders why I'm so fussy with parking and where I leave my car
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 21, 2012, 06:53:44 pm
Hardly the cheapest rims to replace either... Thieving Bastad's!

Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: zerolag on December 21, 2012, 06:59:40 pm
Any CCTV?  Mofos. :fighting:
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 21, 2012, 07:03:16 pm
Just noticed that theyve even had the dammn VW Badge...
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Rachael on December 21, 2012, 07:05:32 pm
What absolute knobs.

There is cctv there but it's all dependant on where it's parked as its pretty big car park.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: sub39h on December 21, 2012, 07:36:25 pm
Some right scum in this world...

I'd be going all Kill Bill on them if it was my motor
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: driver rider on December 21, 2012, 07:44:19 pm
wow.  Didnt know this happens in this day and age still! I in shock.  Poor guy (or girl)
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: MC71 on December 21, 2012, 08:27:33 pm
Tossers.  :fighting:

Is there a particular locking wheel nut that is more secure than others?
 
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: sub39h on December 21, 2012, 08:51:23 pm
Tossers.  :fighting:

Is there a particular locking wheel nut that is more secure than others?
 


McGard?
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: b16vrg on December 21, 2012, 10:48:21 pm
Thats just wrong on all levels :fighting:. Ive always felt with locking wheel bolts that there must be a fail-safe way of removing them so the scum just use these and your powerless
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Post by: jameelno1 on December 21, 2012, 11:00:57 pm
That's just pure f****d up they need shooting even if there is CCTV there's not a fad lot that's gonna come of it all that will happen is he will get a crime number and that's it i had my car damaged and caught the perpetrator outside a police station and the cops let him go  :fighting:
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: neg on December 22, 2012, 09:04:50 am
takes me back to when I had all 5 too and the satnav pinched out my Leon Cupra R at a dealership and they wanted to take no responsibility !
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: rdfcpete on December 22, 2012, 11:23:47 am
Starting to see more of these from time to time :fighting:  :sick:

Are most of these cases where the locking wheel nut is found and the wheels are gracefully removed, or do they just drill through?

Also worrying to think some fairly boggo Scirocco wheels are of interest to thieves (assuming they were fairly standard judging by the cars appearnce and spec from the front)   :confused:  :stupid:
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: JackG on December 22, 2012, 11:30:54 am
To be honest most the time now back windows get smashed :fighting:

Were do most people leave there locking wheel nut? In the kit in the boot, thief's know this too, they don't think twice to just smash the window use the wheel nut key that's in the back and job done, happened all the time at vw when I worked there,  since that my wheel nut stays in the house
Need to try and stall them for as long as poss, 

Utter utter scum, this is why insurance companies are shafting everyone left right and centre
Bang out of order
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Tortaruga on December 22, 2012, 11:46:54 am
This is abhorrent.

From my research it seems that you can buy a 'universal' kit to remove wheel lock nuts. It's obviously meant for mechanics etc, but there's nothing to stop the subhuman bottom dwellers buying a kit.

To make it difficult I'd say:

Fit a second set of e.g. McGard Ultra locknuts to each wheel. These would have a different unique key so the scum have more work to do. Also they have a spinning head which seems to make them extremely difficult to remove without the right key.

Leave your locknut key(s) somewhere other than the spare wheel well...maybe not at home as suggested in case you have a puncture on the road.

There must be a method of marking your wheels on the inside. If they appear on ebay or somewhere you would then have proof of ownership if the mark appeared.
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Post by: b16vrg on December 22, 2012, 12:48:36 pm
Yeah. not a bad shout about somehow marking the inside but then you have an issue if you sell them on? also, if the markings are somehow removable your back to square 1
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Post by: Nodz on December 22, 2012, 12:52:35 pm
All I can think of is having inside the alloys stamped or uv paint to mark them or something
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Post by: MC71 on December 22, 2012, 12:56:06 pm
Use something like Smart Water and if the wheels are recovered its an easy check to see who they belong to. Invisible to the naked eye and as unique as a finger print.

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Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: stealthwolf on December 22, 2012, 07:30:49 pm
Isn't there an inherent danger in using more than one locking nut per wheel?

Perhaps a different locking nut on each wheel would be better.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: mad_pete on December 22, 2012, 07:48:46 pm
Station security is rubbish. I watched a program where BBC found a station that had a load of break ins and hooked up to the existing cameras and actually watched the footage.  The same car would turn up every day about 2 drive round and nick stuff from cars.   Surely a sly number plate recognition camera on in and out and look for any cars that only stop for about 20 minutes ?
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: andrewparker on December 22, 2012, 07:50:06 pm
Isn't there an inherent danger in using more than one locking nut per wheel?

I thought this too.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Saintsteve on December 22, 2012, 08:42:03 pm
Isn't there an inherent danger in using more than one locking nut per wheel?

Perhaps a different locking nut on each wheel would be better.

Yes. Only one per wheel is advised.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Rachael on December 22, 2012, 09:19:01 pm
Station security is rubbish. I watched a program where BBC found a station that had a load of break ins and hooked up to the existing cameras and actually watched the footage.  The same car would turn up every day about 2 drive round and nick stuff from cars.   Surely a sly number plate recognition camera on in and out and look for any cars that only stop for about 20 minutes ?


Would be brilliant, buttttttttttt........ money is the main issue
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: mad_pete on December 22, 2012, 10:57:21 pm
looks like £3000 worth of wheels, tyres and damage there. Be nice to be able to spend that locking oiks up rather than replacing wheels, not that simple I know but I'm an idealist.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Rachael on December 22, 2012, 11:03:11 pm
I totally agree with you.

However, I think an anpr camera would be expensive.

In an ideal world each car park would be patrolled 24 hours a day by security :)
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Hedge on December 22, 2012, 11:38:58 pm
Isn't there an inherent danger in using more than one locking nut per wheel?

Perhaps a different locking nut on each wheel would be better.

Yes. Only one per wheel is advised.

Why is that?
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: stealthwolf on December 22, 2012, 11:40:25 pm
I remember reading something about locking nuts being slightly weaker or something compared to the other bolts.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: jonnym on December 22, 2012, 11:42:33 pm
That's just pure f****d up they need shooting even if there is CCTV there's not a fad lot that's gonna come of it all that will happen is he will get a crime number and that's it i had my car damaged and caught the perpetrator outside a police station and the cops let him go  :fighting:

Vehicle crime is a crime that unfortunately generally cannot be detected. Pure and simply. Of course the example given, don't know what happened with the police, but unless the offender is on scene and your on the phone to the police, all your going to get is a crime ref number. Certainly in Herts, you get the scenes of crime people out to look for prints/blood etc, but, again, as criminals are generally forensically aware, nothing will be picked up. It is a right pain but what else can be done?

Alot of station CCTV (in fact, a lot of CCTV in general) is of poor quality and simply reading a vehicles numberplate is a struggle. ANPR is used for commonly now in car parks but is mostly managed by private firms. Access to this data for police etc is sometimes non-existent (especially with one major car park operator!).

Smart water is an excellent deterrent and does work. It's worked wonders on the railways and also increased the amount of stolen property returned to owners. MOst of my electrical stuff has it and my sub in my golf for some reason! Definately good stuff. I have a few packs if people want one (I think 2, maybe more, need to find them first!)

The people that steal wheels/badges are scum, nothing more nothing less, who shouldn't inhabit our world. However, the reality is, vehicle crime is VERY hard to detect.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Rachael on December 22, 2012, 11:49:13 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said  :happy2:

Also, a lot of the time, they're hooded up, so all you see is figure/s in usually dark clothing.

Detection chances are pretty slim

When my car got broken into (not at a station) the local shop keeper showed me his cctv and the quality was terrible and all I could see were shapes. Thus no one was ever caught. I'd love to see how these absolute twa$s would feel if t happened to them.
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Hedge on December 22, 2012, 11:50:08 pm
I remember reading something about locking nuts being slightly weaker or something compared to the other bolts.

On one of my old Mondeo's I had 2 lots of locking wheel nuts mainly due to the fact that my dealer lost mine and so had to replace it and also gave me an extra set.  :confused:
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: jonnym on December 22, 2012, 11:51:40 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said  :happy2:

Also, a lot of the time, they're hooded up, so all you see is figure/s in usually dark clothing.

Detection chances are pretty slim

When my car got broken into (not at a station) the local shop keeper showed me his cctv and the quality was terrible and all I could see were shapes. Thus no one was ever caught. I'd love to see how these absolute twa$s would feel if t happened to them.

They'd nick someone elses car or attempt to steal someones car window to fit theirs knowing how dumb they are!! haha!
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Rachael on December 22, 2012, 11:55:52 pm
Haha very true!
Eugh this is something that REALLY annoys me. We work hard to have nice things in our lives that we enjoy and then some scum bags thieve them.

Go out and earn a living like everyone else!
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Hedge on December 22, 2012, 11:59:30 pm
You speak the truth Rachael.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: jonnym on December 23, 2012, 12:17:45 am
Haha very true!
Eugh this is something that REALLY annoys me. We work hard to have nice things in our lives that we enjoy and then some scum bags thieve them.

Go out and earn a living like everyone else!

Tell you what does my head is every scums bags house i've been in.......has a games console atleast AND everytime has a MASSIVE flat screen TV. HOW?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Rachael on December 23, 2012, 12:20:25 am
That's an entirely different conversation   :wink:
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: jonnym on December 23, 2012, 12:41:32 am
That's an entirely different conversation   :wink:

:) Indeed! Haha. Locking wheel nuts:

Good article here which uses the Mk4 Golf as the test car - http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/35994/locking-wheel-bolts

Less than £10 a wheel and tey also say McGard ones are good.
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Post by: smil3r on December 23, 2012, 10:51:48 pm
I know it's a bit off topic but here's the latest craze up in Aberdeen. My sisters friend got her 6 week old A3 stolen the other week by this method. Apparently some gangs got a master key to get into any new Audi and there going about doing this. There using 15-16 year olds to go and steal the cars so they don't get prosecuted!!!

http://local.stv.tv/aberdeen/news/court-crime/28587-warning-to-audi-car-owners/

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Post by: Rachael on December 23, 2012, 10:54:47 pm
That's ridiculous! An emergency key in the glovebox WTF!  why haven't they told the owners!

We had a similar thing down Here with bmws,  thieves broke in, and programmed a key to the car and drove off happy as Larry
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: jonnym on December 23, 2012, 11:05:35 pm
That's ridiculous! An emergency key in the glovebox WTF!  why haven't they told the owners!

We had a similar thing down Here with bmws,  thieves broke in, and programmed a key to the car and drove off happy as Larry

Even with all this hi-tech security, no car made to date, cannot be stolen.....and you don't need expensive tools to do it. It really is crazy. Dealers know all this of course!
Title: Re: Dear Santa, please could I have some new wheels for my car...
Post by: Rachael on December 23, 2012, 11:45:56 pm
^^^^^^^^^^

Very very true. It's a shame, and a sad society we live in where you go to bed at night and there is a chance your car might not b there in the morning.

I might get a train horn fitted to my alarm, if that thing starts going off they'll definitely start running!
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Post by: sub39h on December 23, 2012, 11:47:22 pm
I know it's a bit off topic but here's the latest craze up in Aberdeen. My sisters friend got her 6 week old A3 stolen the other week by this method. Apparently some gangs got a master key to get into any new Audi and there going about doing this. There using 15-16 year olds to go and steal the cars so they don't get prosecuted!!!

http://local.stv.tv/aberdeen/news/court-crime/28587-warning-to-audi-car-owners/



That's just frigging stupid. Just because it's in the manual does not give the manufacturer the right to leave the equipment to drive the car off left INSIDE the car