MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Leonard on December 23, 2012, 10:46:12 am
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Merry Xmas all
My girlfriend is changing jobs and is no longer needing to do so many motorway journeys. Hence she is looking at trading her MK5 140 GT Tdi in for a new shape Polo. No more than £11k
She took a 1.4 out yesterday which was so so. Didn't have others to test. I see they also do a 1.2, 1.2TSI, a 1.4TSI (but only in new GT model and GTi I think, ie too expensive) and a 1.6tdi.
I have experienced the 1.6tdi in the Mk6 Golf and was quite impressed. So question is I guess which is best for everyday use, town/country and occasional motorway use, anyone tried the 1.2tsi and 1.6tdi back to back?
Also anyone know if the 1.6tdi is easily chipped or if there is different hardware in the Polo that stops it putting out the same power as its bigger brother the Golf.
And if anyone fancies a nice black 5 door GT Tdi let me know :wink:
Many Thanks
Matt
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I only have experience of the 1.2L 60bhp engine in the new Polo, and it was woeful. I'd imagine the small petrol engines (the 1.2TSI sounds interesting) would suit the character of the car more than the 1.6TDI, though I'd agree that it is a nice engine in the Golf.
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Cheers Andrew
Just checked Revo site and they can chip the 1.6tdi to 140bhp. Be pretty interesting if mpg isnt affected too badly.
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Had a '12 plate 1.4 as a courtesy a few weeks ago.. I simply couldn't live with that few torques everyday.
It would definitely have to be one with forced induction. (to maintain some level of driveability / MPG / emissions etc)
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Cheers Andrew
Just checked Revo site and they can chip the 1.6tdi to 140bhp. Be pretty interesting if mpg isnt affected too badly.
I think I'd also be wary of the weight of that engine in a small car, not so much in terms of performance but how it would effect the handling etc.
I've just been looking at them on the VW configurator and its scary how much a decently spec'd Polo is nowadays!
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Yup not cheap! :laugh:
Just not got the extra couple of grand to get a new golf unfortunately.. (plus I guess she doesn't realy need the bigger car anymore)
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1.2Tsi 105 is the best one
But I think it only available on the R-Line and SEL
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1.6 tdi all the way, great mpg, cheap on tax, the tsi is good but is firsty
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Id keep the golf.....
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1.6 tdi all the way, great mpg, cheap on tax, the tsi is good but is firsty
The Autocar review seems to suggest the 1.6 TDI doesn't particularly suit the Polo -
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/polo/first-drives/volkswaugen-polo-1.6-tdi
However, the 1.6-litre diesel engine doesn’t suit the Polo especially well. In such an otherwise quiet and smooth environment the engine sounds and feels startlingly gruff, only becoming less intrusive at a steady cruise.
Work the five-speed manual gearbox a bit and the Polo is brisk enough, but like many small diesel engines it’s got a massive hole in its power delivery if it’s caught off boost at low revs, which makes it frustrating to drive around town.
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Bugger going to have to find the 1.2 tsi and 1.6tdi somewhere to test :laugh: :confused:
Would keep the Golf but she has had it for 3 years now and it has done done 73k miles, so time to move on.
Thanks all for the input.
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The lowest powered 1.6d to keep purchase cost down and then a software upgrade to take it to the highest power output +25bhp and 35ftlb.
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Thank you I was thinking that... How much do you charge for remap? Noticed Revo quote 140bhp upgrade, would you not recommend that many horses ?
Search for a 1.6tdi SEL in grey with boavista alloys begins.......
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1.6cr is £399 inc vat and dyno setup.
Buy the 75ps version and you can upgrade to 130-135 bhp from a stg1 map. Figures vastly depend on how new the engine is, highest we have seen with Sedox software is 138bhp.
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Id keep the golf.....
I'd defo consider the above. You always lose money when changing (as you know).
As usual it comes down to how much it costs you to change over anything else.
As others have said it has to be FI these days imo.
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1.6 tdi all the way, great mpg, cheap on tax, the tsi is good but is firsty
The Autocar review seems to suggest the 1.6 TDI doesn't particularly suit the Polo -
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/polo/first-drives/volkswaugen-polo-1.6-tdi
However, the 1.6-litre diesel engine doesn’t suit the Polo especially well. In such an otherwise quiet and smooth environment the engine sounds and feels startlingly gruff, only becoming less intrusive at a steady cruise.
Work the five-speed manual gearbox a bit and the Polo is brisk enough, but like many small diesel engines it’s got a massive hole in its power delivery if it’s caught off boost at low revs, which makes it frustrating to drive around town.
It isn't a quiet engine to be fair, still brill running costs
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I didn't think it was bad in the Golf Match I tried it in, but I guess the MK6 has considerably more soundproofing.
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The 1.2 Tsi is a laugh to drive, the wife has just got one and she loves it, made me proper laugh the other day on the way home, a surprisingly quick car, we tried the diesel but it just felt too sluggish.
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The mrs wants a polo but we only want an auto! leaving us with the choice of the 1.4na or the 1.4tsi. Want to keep mpg as high as possible! Wish they did the 1.6tdi or 1.2tsi with dsg.
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I wouldn't touch a diesel in a little car, you want a revvy little petrol. Diesels just rattle the car to bits and make driving them a chore.
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Done a u-turn. Worked out miles a year and added in miles on motorway and petrol just won. Add in short journeys that the dpf may not like and its definitely the TSI. Just have to get over the rather large financial outlay to 'upgrade' from a nice Golf to a reasonably nice Polo.... :laugh:
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Done a u-turn. Worked out miles a year and added in miles on motorway and petrol just won. Add in short journeys that the dpf may not like and its definitely the TSI. Just have to get over the rather large financial outlay to 'upgrade' from a nice Golf to a reasonably nice Polo.... :laugh:
I just couldn't do that. :confused:
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your next dilemma is it going to be an R-Line or SEL?
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Done a u-turn. Worked out miles a year and added in miles on motorway and petrol just won. Add in short journeys that the dpf may not like and its definitely the TSI. Just have to get over the rather large financial outlay to 'upgrade' from a nice Golf to a reasonably nice Polo.... :laugh:
I just couldn't do that. :confused:
I personally think changing from a MK5 diesel with 73k on the clock to a nippy petrol engined Polo would be a pretty nice change.
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It's all personal preference of course.
I guess it depends heavily on the type of driving the OP will be doing, if it's mostly motorway work that zippy little petrol engine is going to be a buzzy PITA quite quickly; and you'd miss the torque. However, on the flip side if it's mostly town, low speed work then absolutely the little FI petrol polo would be a fun little go cart of a car.
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The mrs wants a polo but we only want an auto! leaving us with the choice of the 1.4na or the 1.4tsi. Want to keep mpg as high as possible! Wish they did the 1.6tdi or 1.2tsi with dsg.
I think you can get the Ibiza 1.2 TSI with DSG.
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The mrs wants a polo but we only want an auto! leaving us with the choice of the 1.4na or the 1.4tsi. Want to keep mpg as high as possible! Wish they did the 1.6tdi or 1.2tsi with dsg.
I had the 1.4N/A DSG as a courtesy when the ED30 was in VW for some work...
Great box but I found the 1.4N/A FAR too underpowered, I would really strugle with it as a every day car..
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I have driven 30tkm with my Skoda Octavia combi 1.6 TDI with DSG box. I think the combination is quite good. Economical and in a Polo with a remap, should be a nice little performer. No-one has really praised the 5-speed manual box with this engine but DSG-7 works well with it.
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1.2TSI 105bhp 4 cyl smooth and sounds nice and quiet gets my vote
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Done a u-turn. Worked out miles a year and added in miles on motorway and petrol just won. Add in short journeys that the dpf may not like and its definitely the TSI. Just have to get over the rather large financial outlay to 'upgrade' from a nice Golf to a reasonably nice Polo.... :laugh:
I just couldn't do that. :confused:
I personally think changing from a MK5 diesel with 73k on the clock to a nippy petrol engined Polo would be a pretty nice change.
I dunno, 10k can buy a lot of car! Second hand bargains out there.
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MTM 2.5TFSI conversion
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I wouldn't touch a diesel in a little car, you want a revvy little petrol. Diesels just rattle the car to bits and make driving them a chore.
You've never driven a Mini Cooper diesel then ?
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The mrs wants a polo but we only want an auto! leaving us with the choice of the 1.4na or the 1.4tsi. Want to keep mpg as high as possible! Wish they did the 1.6tdi or 1.2tsi with dsg.
I had the 1.4N/A DSG as a courtesy when the ED30 was in VW for some work...
Great box but I found the 1.4N/A FAR too underpowered, I would really strugle with it as a every day car..
she currently drives a c1, being under powered isnt an issue! :grin:
been looking at the up instead.
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The mrs wants a polo but we only want an auto! leaving us with the choice of the 1.4na or the 1.4tsi. Want to keep mpg as high as possible! Wish they did the 1.6tdi or 1.2tsi with dsg.
I had the 1.4N/A DSG as a courtesy when the ED30 was in VW for some work...
Great box but I found the 1.4N/A FAR too underpowered, I would really strugle with it as a every day car..
she currently drives a c1, being under powered isnt an issue! :grin:
been looking at the up instead.
TBH
I wouldn't want an UP as a main car, but it was fun round town
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The mrs wants a polo but we only want an auto! leaving us with the choice of the 1.4na or the 1.4tsi. Want to keep mpg as high as possible! Wish they did the 1.6tdi or 1.2tsi with dsg.
I had the 1.4N/A DSG as a courtesy when the ED30 was in VW for some work...
Great box but I found the 1.4N/A FAR too underpowered, I would really strugle with it as a every day car..
she currently drives a c1, being under powered isnt an issue! :grin:
been looking at the up instead.
TBH
I wouldn't want an UP as a main car, but it was fun round town
She drives 14miles a day, I used it too and from work too then the golf on any long journeys.
Like the fact the up gets heated seats and touch screen sat nav as standard.