MK5 Golf GTI

General => Detailing => Topic started by: rdfcpete on July 04, 2009, 04:43:56 pm

Title: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: rdfcpete on July 04, 2009, 04:43:56 pm
Guys,

My exhaust tailpipes are pretty grimey.
The left pipe came out relatively well after trying some heavy duty de-greaser and also, some Meguirs all metal polysh. The right I suspect is beyond recovery to a sortof shiny state [pic below... This is pre scrub + polysh attempt btw!].

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv394%2Frdfcpete%2FDSC00153.jpg&hash=9d6ead77a64bfd4bb68ab0e573f8b58075c9e820)

Is the best option here to simply replace the tailpipes, or is this avoided cause they're expensive and I could probably get the current ones looking better?

Thanks,

Pete.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: TomB on July 04, 2009, 04:52:30 pm
You should be able to bring them back up with some stages of wet and dry paper.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: rdfcpete on July 04, 2009, 04:57:28 pm
Wet + dry with any substance on, or as they are?
Won't it scratch it in the longrun, or will the Meguirs take care of the final appearance?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: veedub18 on July 04, 2009, 06:16:51 pm
I'd use some AUTOSOL on them, they'll come up like new with very little work.

The 100gm tube and 2 cloths will do the job, and a little elbow grease  :happy2:

http://www.thepolishingshop.co.uk/acatalog/Metal_Polish.html
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: v2brett on July 04, 2009, 08:37:12 pm
i used autosol on mine with one of those pan scrubber sponge things and it brought them up great,  now i just use a metal polish every few weeks to keep them tip top
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: chip20 on July 05, 2009, 11:45:45 am
Hi.I use a piece of wire wool.Then give them a good polish with autosol.Don't rub to hard with the wire wool though.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: VC on July 05, 2009, 12:14:24 pm
Hi.I use a piece of wire wool.Then give them a good polish with autosol.Don't rub to hard with the wire wool though.


yup wire wool is my weapon of choice too followed but autosol  :happy2: it will bring those up no problems
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: Jules86 on July 05, 2009, 01:13:51 pm
Dont replace them  :sad:

My mothers GTI after some wire wool, megs metal polish and some time

Left is untouched, right one was after only 10 mins

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs131%2FJules86dad%2F11102008588.jpg&hash=0359648522f80e3fb1c253e95353cca8b4497836)

Both done

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs131%2FJules86dad%2F11102008591.jpg&hash=ba3ef80139f7319a25cb6aeb78f099e60d19f067)

I then polished them up a few times to add more shine and sealed them with jetseal
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: Jules86 on July 05, 2009, 01:14:50 pm
From my detailing thread

Tailpipe
These can be nasty if left for a while but meguairs metal cleaner or autosol will bring them up brilliant with some #00 Wire Wool, a cloth and alot of elbow grease.
http://www.autoperfection.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=metal

Dont leave this bit out though as it can ruin a long clean having dirty tailpipes, you will be amazed at how many people notice!
Best steps would be
- Spray degreaser on pipes and leave for 20/30 mins
- Scrub down pipes with wire wool or a stiff brush (inside only to prevent scratching)
- Apply metal polish with wire wool
- Apply metal polish with cloth
- Buff clean
- repeat if necessary
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: rdfcpete on July 05, 2009, 01:16:08 pm
Thanks guys.

So wire wool/those brill pad kitchen scrub things with Meguirs/Autosol should do it?

Looks like I've a choice of combinations ;)
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: VC on July 05, 2009, 01:19:03 pm
Thanks guys.

So wire wool/those brill pad kitchen scrub things with Meguirs/Autosol should do it?

Looks like I've a choice of combinations ;)

i would choose wool over the dish scourer because you can select the grade of the wool you use and therefor can prevent scratching whereas the scourer although will do the job, depending on the type it will scratch if it's the usual thick sort. wire wool is dead cheap anyways  :happy2:
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: Jules86 on July 05, 2009, 01:30:40 pm
You want #00 wire wool (kitchen grade will scratch the pipes which polish wont fix) They will be ok for the tougher inside though  :happy2:
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: rdfcpete on July 05, 2009, 02:08:43 pm
VC + Jules, many thanks  :happy2:

When you both refer to the 'inside' though, I'm a bit lost?
- Scrub down pipes with wire wool or a stiff brush (inside only to prevent scratching)
I wouldn't dream of trying to scrub the inside tbh, that can stay as grubby as it wants - unless if misread that? lol
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: VC on July 05, 2009, 02:14:03 pm
yeah i think he meant the inside of the tailpipe, a question of 'while you're down there' really  :wink:
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: Jules86 on July 05, 2009, 03:33:46 pm
Yep  :wink:
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: stealthwolf on July 05, 2009, 03:39:04 pm
I clean my pipes with the following:

1. Spray engine degreaser in and around the exhaust tips. Leave for a good while.
2. Agitate with brush (I use a cheapo alloy brush from halfrauds), wipe.
3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 several times.
4. Start the car up and gently dab the throttle to get rid of any remaining loose crap.
5. Clean using WD40 and MF cloth
6. Dry with cloth and apply polish
7. Work polish using 00-grade wirewool if necessary
8. Work polish using green side of washing up sponge if necessary
9. Work polish using MF cloth
10. Buff off with clean MF cloth

Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: JPC on July 05, 2009, 10:56:36 pm
can i just comment on what jules said about leaving the degreaser on for 20/30 minutes.

I dont want to appear off, but i wouldnt recommend doing that at all.

It will cause as much of its own problems as the soot on the pipes.
there is no advantage in leaving degreaser on for 5-6 minutes.
 Any longer and will start to dry and you dont want that.
5-6 minutes is more than enough for the degreaser to do its thing.

I dont want to appear off but wouldnt want anyone doing any damage with miss-information.

Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: stealthwolf on July 06, 2009, 07:02:01 pm
^^^I leave the degreaser on for a bit. Not thirty mins but longer than a few mins. I tend to do more applications and scrubbing rather than leaving it on for longer.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: Jules86 on July 06, 2009, 08:53:41 pm
As with most advise its usually best to alter it as you wish for the best results for yourself. For mine i left it 20 minutes as the previous owner had never cleaned them! Had to repeat it aswell  :surprised:

I used autoglym engine degreaser which is pretty weak to be honest as well  :smiley:
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: JPC on July 06, 2009, 11:45:55 pm
as stealthwolf suggested, its better to do multiple applications, as to avoid drying. Autoglym engine and machine cleaner is pretty good in my experience, just a bit pricey when you go thru it like i do
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: RedRobin on July 19, 2009, 09:53:05 pm
....

I'm amazed at the amount of time and effort you guys put into cleaning your zorst tips.

The stock oem tips were horrendous to keep clean and the silver Millteks were better but still needed lots of work. Now I've got Milltek's new ceramic black satin finish and just a wipe and buff with Meg's NXT Tech 2.0 wax and it's back like new both inside and out - Perfect solution for my laziness. I'd rather be driving than detailing.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: keith on July 19, 2009, 10:53:31 pm
 :grin:Thats why your cars going pink :wink:

I use some wire wool and Harley Davidson crome polish a few rubs and there good, I echo JPC comments on leaving some products on to long can in effect coz more damage always read the label.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: tomhighcliffe on January 23, 2010, 07:22:03 pm
Dont replace them  :sad:

My mothers GTI after some wire wool, megs metal polish and some time

Left is untouched, right one was after only 10 mins

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs131%2FJules86dad%2F11102008588.jpg&hash=0359648522f80e3fb1c253e95353cca8b4497836)

Both done

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs131%2FJules86dad%2F11102008591.jpg&hash=ba3ef80139f7319a25cb6aeb78f099e60d19f067)

I then polished them up a few times to add more shine and sealed them with jetseal

new member and still getting used to the whole forum thing, never used one before, my exhausts are black and wont come clean, going to try engine degreaser tomorrow, can anybody shed any light on "jetseal" i.e. where I could get some from and costs etc?
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: Ifti on January 24, 2010, 04:46:43 pm
Well I guess Im the saddest of all of you then?

I polished them up with 00 grade wire wool. I then used Autosol to polish them up.
I did this on the odd occasion last summer.

This is the bit that makes me a little sad I guess...............

I..................well...................I kinda..................................Ok I'll just come out with it.................
At the end of each day when the car goes back in the garage I keep a rag in my boot which I remove and give my exhaust tips a little wipe - just the rim part where the carbon bakes itself on.

There, I said it!

However, throughout the whole winter, well for the whole time Ive owned the car, my exhaust tips are always nice and shiney  :happy2: lol
If i had a standard GTI with a black rear bumper, i wouldnt be so botheerd TBH. My mate has one and the black tips just blend in with the bumper. However, on an ED30, or a colour coded rear bumper, you MUST have shiney tips!!!
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: Gene Hunt on January 24, 2010, 05:29:53 pm
Hi.I use a piece of wire wool.Then give them a good polish with autosol.Don't rub to hard with the wire wool though.


yup wire wool is my weapon of choice too followed but autosol  :happy2: it will bring those up no problems
..........what i used on the standard when i picked it up.Milltek on now is regular washed & polished so never gets to bad now.
Title: Re: Grubby Exhaust Pipes - Replace?
Post by: tomhighcliffe on January 24, 2010, 06:54:40 pm
Thanks alot for the tips guys, I have followed them step by step and its starting to work, I'm a new owner to the car and I'm guessing it was never cleaned before as my tailpipes where worse than all of the above pictures

2 hrs of solid scrubbing today and ive got one shining! hooraah! however there is still 'pitting' in the tips and round the edge, should I keep polisihing with the wirewool and autosol?