MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: heavyd on January 03, 2013, 06:55:34 pm
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I thought my car had felt a bit sluggish lately at low revs, everytime I try to floor it, gets the revs up, then wheelspins through all the gears, made 357bhp on a local dyno, but had lowish torque after it peaked.
I plugged in the VCDS today, and got this
008801 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249)
P2261 - 008 - Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent
I cleared the fault, and after a drive down the road it came straight back.
Now, I only replaced the D/V for a revision 'G' in august, so it has lasted all of 4 months. I cant see any visible splits in it. I swapped it over for the original 'C' version I had, and it feels like a different car now, with no fault code either.
Question is, which one do I go for now? as I dont think teh roiginal one will last too long :stupid:
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I thought the Rev D was the one to go for mate?
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Another Rev G is best suited.
I wouldn't put the D revision in.
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The G is the strongest of the diaphragm DV's but its still a rubber diaphragm so prone to splitting :sad1:
On a high powered car like yours, your best either going for the D or upgrading to a forge :happy2:
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Another Rev G is best suited.
I wouldn't put the D revision in.
What's wrong with the D's SS?
Had one fitted for what must be 4yrs now and I don't seem to of suffered any problems.
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I just got rid of a 'D' version aswell :fighting:
Might just get another 'G' then.
The one I have here hasnt split, must just be a mechanical failiure.
Is there not a warranty on VW spares?
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Another Rev G is best suited.
I wouldn't put the D revision in.
What's wrong with the D's SS?
Had one fitted for what must be 4yrs now and I don't seem to of suffered any problems.
On my DSG car, it made the engine when sat stationary very rough and lurch foward when releasing the brake to move off . If you own a DSG car you will know what I mean. I also found that it holds peak boost better and spooled up smoother using the G then D.
Up to you of course, but VW'S say that Rev G is for your car, as the D isn't listed as being correct for it.
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Another Rev G is best suited.
I wouldn't put the D revision in.
What's wrong with the D's SS?
Had one fitted for what must be 4yrs now and I don't seem to of suffered any problems.
On my DSG car, it made the engine when sat stationary very rough and lurch foward when releasing the brake to move off . If you own a DSG car you will know what I mean. I also found that it holds peak boost better and spooled up smoother using the G then D.
Up to you of course, but VW'S say that Rev G is for your car, as the D isn't listed as being correct for it.
Ah, I see. My cars manual so maybe that's why I haven't noticed anything. I'll bare it in mind though.
Thanks for the explanation. :happy2:
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From what I've read the g is for the mk6 k04 cars and the d is for the k03 cars.
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No G is for our cars. I rang skoda gave them my reg and rev G is now what they stock for the VRS.
I believe vw parts are warranty for a year??
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Also vw told me the rev D was for edition 30
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No G is for our cars. I rang skoda gave them my reg and rev G is now what they stock for the VRS.
I believe vw parts are warranty for a year??
I'll find out tomorrow. I've lost the receipt for it now anyway, although I have about £2000 worth of parts receipts, its the only one I cant find :sad1:
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Also vw told me the rev D was for edition 30
No it isn't. F and G are for the Edition 30's.
D isn't, wasn't , and never has been advised to use by VW.
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I'll find out in the morning and post the results :happy2:
I'll get the latest revision for a golf 'R' aswell. hopefully there'll be a K03 at the dealers and I'll find out the number for that aswell
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Take it back to Pullman VW in S.land and speak to Scottish Jim, ask him all about his Subaru and make friends, mention us lot at PDT and he will gladly swap it over. :wink:
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I'll find out in the morning and post the results :happy2:
I'll get the latest revision for a golf 'R' aswell. hopefully there'll be a K03 at the dealers and I'll find out the number for that aswell
Wasn't rev d on the mk4 1.8T??
Unsure about the k03 cars, but I do know that F and G are for the ed30's, the same as the O.P's car.
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They all fit don't they, the difference being diaphragm or piston design.
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I'll find out in the morning and post the results :happy2:
I'll get the latest revision for a golf 'R' aswell. hopefully there'll be a K03 at the dealers and I'll find out the number for that aswell
Wasn't rev d on the mk4 1.8T??
Unsure about the k03 cars, but I do know that F and G are for the ed30's, the same as the O.P's car.
1.8T uses a different valve... vacuum operated from what i rememeber
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I'll find out in the morning and post the results :happy2:
I'll get the latest revision for a golf 'R' aswell. hopefully there'll be a K03 at the dealers and I'll find out the number for that aswell
Wasn't rev d on the mk4 1.8T??
Unsure about the k03 cars, but I do know that F and G are for the ed30's, the same as the O.P's car.
1.8T uses a different valve... vacuum operated from what i rememeber
Yep, The 1.8T's are totally different, vacuum operated
Take it back to Pullman VW in S.land and speak to Scottish Jim, ask him all about his Subaru and make friends, mention us lot at PDT and he will gladly swap it over. :wink:
Yep, I already know all about his Subaru, have you not heard the story about his celica.........
He knows my reg number off by heart when I go in, think thats a bad sign when a vw part guy knows that :signLOL:
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Rev D's appeared at the same time as the 1.4 TSI's as seen in Sy's Homomobile.
Even my TSI vRS has a Rev G.
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Either way rev D isn', wasn't, hasn't been used on the ko3 cars and according to others k04 cars.
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D was from one one of the TSI engines - I thought it was the mk6. GTI. definitely not off a 1.8t :happy2:
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The revision D valves hit the seen before the mk6 GTi. I'm pretty sure.
I always was led to believe the Rev D (piston) type was released for the K03 cars due to where they are located and the piston being better than the earlier diaphragm type. It was then also seen as an upgrade (but not necessarily needed) for the K04 cars.
However, everyday is a school day and await clarification :signLOL:
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Wherever its from they still fail, like all of them one way or another.
My VCDS shows I'm not matching requested boost atm with a 6 month old Rev D... have ordered a G, so will test - whatever works I guess (I look at it as a wear and tear item now).
It's just a shame the TFSI location is more of a PITA than the TSI.
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Also vw told me the rev D was for edition 30
No it isn't. F and G are for the Edition 30's.
D isn't, wasn't , and never has been advised to use by VW.
D was recommended to me by VW as the correct piston type replacement for the original diaphragm DV. I checked it and double checked it with them. The parts guy at Colbournes VW showed me the screen on the VW parts computer.
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Well.............
The revision 'D' D/V is no longer available to order, and has been superceeded by the revision 'G'
the revision 'G' is listed for the BYD, AXX, BWA, BPY I think it said on the screen. So looks like everyone will be buying a revision 'G' from now on :happy2:
The part does come with a 1 year warranty, and to get a replacement under warranty, it has to be brought in, and tested on my car in the workshop, and since my car is notorious at the dealership for being modified, I cant have a replacement :fighting:
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Awesome have the rev D for sale - probably worth confirming they have them instock as they may keep you waiting for 6 months.
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D was from one one of the TSI engines - I thought it was the mk6. GTI. definitely not off a 1.8t :happy2:
The TSI lump in my Octavia has a Rev G.
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I just ordered a 'g'
There must be a reason why they don't sell 'D' anymore
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Benfield vw near me still sell them, the parts guy checked and said they were in stock at the central warehouse...........
I got a revision g anyway, a million miles better than the original b version !
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Benfield vw near me still sell them, the parts guy checked and said they were in stock at the central warehouse...........
I got a revision g anyway, a million miles better than the original b version !
He tried to find the info for the 'D' and couldnt order from the central warehouse? You dont happen to be from Shields by any chance do you :wink:
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I have just contacted VW Colbournes Guildford, see this thread which I have put up as it relates specifically to my car:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59206.0.html
Using the part number for Rev D in the thread, I was told it could be ordered and would be with them on Monday.
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The fact your car is modified shouldn't make a difference. You boughta part and it has failed . Question is why and are you sure it was diverter valve and not another issue? I mean did you log boost?
Just interesting that's all :happy2:
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Well the car drives better with my old 'c' valve on, boost spiked at 1.8bar with the 'g' valve on, and the reoccurring faulty n249 valve fault code hasn't appeared since I changed it over :happy2:
There argument will be the extra boost caused it to fail. The parts man is a good bloke, so of he could have done it, he would have
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Interesting keep us posted as maybe fault only flags up under certain conditions which you have not ye reached .
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Probably the D isnt showing as available due to being superceeded by the C a few months back. I would presume you are K04 and it is an easy job to replace the dv. I would opt for the another G again. The D can leak from new and in my car it felt sluggish low down and the engine wasnt as responsive as it is with the G. I treat dvs as a wear and tear item like brakes etc.
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Interesting keep us posted as maybe fault only flags up under certain conditions which you have not ye reached .
I only revved the car, and it came back on with the 'g' :surprised:
Heres teh boost spike
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2Fdv_zps9b4b6931.jpg&hash=1a10a4d0b4a37b429e90bd38def466d014417c74)
The revision 'C' wasnt available at the dealers either, that was classed as being superceeded by the 'G' also :happy2:
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The D is available from VW. I could have ordered one today.
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The D is available from VW. I could have ordered one today.
Must be the north south divide then :signLOL:
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The D is available from VW. I could have ordered one today.
Maybe there is a difference with your engine ? AXX is different to say one of the other engine version types?
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Benfield vw near me still sell them, the parts guy checked and said they were in stock at the central warehouse...........
I got a revision g anyway, a million miles better than the original b version !
He tried to find the info for the 'D' and couldnt order from the central warehouse? You dont happen to be from Shields by any chance do you :wink:
Sure am, is it that obvious !
Are you as well ?
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Is VW the cheapest place to buy these from or do any of the traders sell them cheaper?
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:congrats:is it worth cosindering the Forge version which looks to be fairly substantial?
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You can get the D from awesome
http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/oem-2-0t-upgraded-piston-diverter-valve
Or a G from here
http://www.germanautopartsdirect.co.uk/AUDI-A3/S3-2003-on-ENGINE-&-CLUTCH/c1_22_355/p3756/DUMP-VALVE-PETROL-ENGINES-2005-TO-2012-06F145710G/product_info.html
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Went to collect mine, got the parts bloke to foam ekta search for the k03 engine
Here's the listed d/v for the k03 cars
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2F54C81E03-7D9E-4A42-A458-9F4C369FA63D-5566-00000406AE7606C8.jpg&hash=5471ec578817e46a5def034dc8a491a0b17786e6)
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Went to collect mine, got the parts bloke to foam ekta search for the k03 engine
Here's the listed d/v for the k03 cars
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2F54C81E03-7D9E-4A42-A458-9F4C369FA63D-5566-00000406AE7606C8.jpg&hash=5471ec578817e46a5def034dc8a491a0b17786e6)
ohh look.... its a G! :grin: