MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: tony_danza on January 04, 2013, 03:27:07 pm
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http://www.caranddriver.com/features/effects-of-upsized-wheels-and-tires-tested
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But grip and braking efficiency were improved, with the only real negatives being mpg and sprint times. As well as the obvious cost and comfort differential! :happy2:
Not as drastic a change as i thought we would see to be honest.
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17s and slicks FTW!
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So 17s for acceleration and 18s for slightly more grip and better looks, with hardly any reduction in ride comfort.
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much prefered running my golf on 19".... car felt more stable and handled better. Was probably marginally slower, but its not always a race to get where you want to go.
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Weight depends on the type of wheel too - you can get larger wheels which are much lighter nowadays.
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Meh... :booty:
My 19" Ultraleggera's weigh 20.4 lbs or 9.2 kgs each :happy2:
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Pretty sure we can all live with this, I know I certantly can - noooo way am I sacking of my 18's for crappy 16's again :)
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All valid points, if you choose well, you won't see much difference... I wasn't necessarily agreeing with the article.
However, a set of big heavy replicas - it shows how they can affect things.
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All valid points, if you choose well, you won't see much difference... I wasn't necessarily agreeing with the article.
However, a set of big heavy replicas - it shows how they can affect things.
Thats the biggest problem with Reps, very heavy.
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OEM genuine Monza 18's = 11kg each
OZ Alleggerita 18's = 8kg each
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basically means feck all in a road going car. I'd hazard a guess that a good deal of enthusiasts pouring over the mass of their wheels could shed more weight from the vehicle by eating fewer pies if they're in search of performance gains :grin:
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basically means feck all in a road going car. I'd hazard a guess that a good deal of enthusiasts pouring over the mass of their wheels could shed more weight from the vehicle by eating fewer pies if they're in search of performance gains :grin:
True... but 20kg saving in total weight is very different to 5kg saving on each wheel.
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true as the mass on the wheels is unsprung vs. the tubby pie eater who is sprung, er if you get my drift :chicken:
however i still come back to road going cars supposed to be doing road going speed limits, one isn't supposed to be searching for the apex on every left, or god forbid, right hand turn :laugh:
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Pretty interesting.
Another thing to consider is brakes. The larger size wheels aren't just for aesthetics, they usually fit round some decent size stoppers!
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basically means feck all in a road going car. I'd hazard a guess that a good deal of enthusiasts pouring over the mass of their wheels could shed more weight from the vehicle by eating fewer pies if they're in search of performance gains :grin:
....I don't agree. Although my car has done occasional trackdays I DO search for the apex of corners though always obeying the road markings and I DO have fun driving enthusiastically on the road when the conditions are safe enough to allow it.
You don't have to be driving at high mph speeds to have fun in a GTI.
The combination of lighter weight wheels and other handling mods significantly and noticably increase the feedback and make a GTI more tactile to drive. Alloys like the OZ Alleggerita's also better accommodate bigger brakes and deliver better brake ventilation.
What you are saying about tubby pie eaters has some relevance but is far more relevant to sport such as riding uphill on pedal bikes. IIRC my race bike only weighed 17lbs but I weighed nearly 11 stone even when race fit.
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...What I don't get is why the OEM 18's (monza 2's) are so heavy, despite supposedly utilising 'hollowcast' technology?
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..What I don't get is why the OEM 18's (monza 2's) are so heavy, despite supposedly utilising 'hollowcast' technology?
....Genuine Monza 2's most definitely do have BBS's patented 'Hollow Technology' and apparently the Mk5 GTI Monza is the wheel which BBS used to create and test their technology.
I think they are heavier than expected because there is still a lot of alloy material in the five 'spokes' - The spokes are big compared with many other wheel designs..
Goodness knows what a Monza 2 replica weighs!
Genuine OEM Monza 17's weigh ~10kg.
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I think they switched to cheaper Ronals from late '06? There's weren't hollow.
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I think they switched to cheaper Ronals from late '06? There's weren't hollow.
....Was it as early as late '06?
I weighed one of my early '06 genuine BBS Monza 18's on certified (annually recalibrated for local sea angling club) scales and it was 11kg, or may have been 11.?? - I'd have to look it up.
I wonder if the Mk6 alloys are BBS with Hollow Technology or another brand without........ :popcornsoda: