MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: SLIVERFOX on January 12, 2013, 12:50:21 pm

Title: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: SLIVERFOX on January 12, 2013, 12:50:21 pm
Since November things have been breaking on my golf I know they just wear or tear now the side winder of the driver seat has popped out completely please tell me me this ain't a dear fix has I'm still waiting for the part to do my high level brake light :sad1:
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: diesel junior on January 12, 2013, 05:07:05 pm
Join the club mate - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59337.0.html - once this 6 week nightmare is over this car is going and its a return to Honda land (where reliability rules). The Golf used to be seen as the benchmark in its class, not anymore i think, after 5 - 6 years they start to fail whereas my 19 year old Corrado keeps on trucking, which says it all
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 12, 2013, 11:14:38 pm
Join the club mate - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59337.0.html - once this 6 week nightmare is over this car is going and its a return to Honda land (where reliability rules). The Golf used to be seen as the benchmark in its class, not anymore i think, after 5 - 6 years they start to fail whereas my 19 year old Corrado keeps on trucking, which says it all

I went from Honda, to ford (then got sick of stuff breaking), then back to Honda (where got sick of dash rattles as interior quality dropped), to VW. . .  :grin:
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: Kregiel on January 12, 2013, 11:26:59 pm
boring honda land!  :happy2:

In fairness no new car will ever be as reliable as 20 years ago be it honda , VW or any other brand

each to its own!

Paul
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: Black9 on January 12, 2013, 11:52:10 pm
VW have became sh*te for build quality. If its not wing rust its broken springs. My old Honda Type R took much more abuse and never broke lol
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: diesel junior on January 13, 2013, 09:30:50 am
VW have became sh*te for build quality. If its not wing rust its broken springs. My old Honda Type R took much more abuse and never broke lol

Absolutely on the nail. Vw build quality is on the slippery slope as the ocean of cheap skoda plastic shows when you climb in. 1994 Corrado? Leather door cards which still look like new and a heater that is replaced in days not months. Don't get me started on the TFSi noise
 'experience' either.....Don't think there will be many mark v gtis around on 7 or 8 years thx to constant unreliability and insane parts prices I am afraid....
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 13, 2013, 05:41:32 pm
The interior quality has definitely improved with the mk6 & 7 Golf. It slipped slightly between mk4 & 5.

You will always find turbo cars have more problems than NA cars (such as the type-R) because there are a lot of ancillary parts (DV,PCV, turbo, sensors etc) to fail.

That's why Honda kept it simple, and therefore ultimately reliable  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: diesel junior on January 13, 2013, 06:40:39 pm
I agree to a point with what you are saying but I wouldn't call a vtec engine simple, far from it. Sad to say they are just better engineered, one only has to look at the 'troubleshooting' section on this forum, the extent of problems on a model barely 8 years old is quite staggering likewise the opinions of the experts in 'Car mechanics' mag as per VAG products. I have had a good time in this car, but it is just not reliable and vw will never see me again!
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Post by: homesqueeze on January 13, 2013, 07:42:18 pm
The interior quality has definitely improved with the mk6 & 7 Golf. It slipped slightly between mk4 & 5.

You will always find turbo cars have more problems than NA cars (such as the type-R) because there are a lot of ancillary parts (DV,PCV, turbo, sensors etc) to fail.

That's why Honda kept it simple, and therefore ultimately reliable  :notworthy:

Honda are now actually going down the turbo route for the first time with the next type-R. In this day and age turbos are far more fuel effecient and soon everything will have a turbo strapped on.
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: Scrubadub on January 13, 2013, 08:13:59 pm
Can people stop writing the "H" word. It's blasphemy
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: diesel junior on January 13, 2013, 08:24:29 pm
Blasphemy? Nope, reliability......heard of a honda 7 weeks without interior heating?  Golf gti is a good car - for 5 years max then the problems start whereas a 19 year old VR6 Corrado keeps on pulling like a train...
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Post by: stealthwolf on January 13, 2013, 10:31:24 pm
Surely some of this has to be apportioned to driver use and abuse? RR has had his for around 7 years without issues.
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: diesel junior on January 14, 2013, 09:51:13 am
In some cases you could summise this but a heating and ventilation system? I turn it on, I turn it off and seven weeks later after two heater motors, one control panel (& now well over £1000 spent...) it still sits there forlorn is just not good enough for a 2005 car. Throw in a £600 radiator change in november as well and you can see why this will go and the 19-y-o classic corrado will stay!!
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Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 14, 2013, 11:46:44 am
Surely some of this has to be apportioned to driver use and abuse? RR has had his for around 7 years without issues.

Both do make a difference, I guess luck has something to do with it.

RR has basically replaced everything on his car with an uprated part over the course of his 107,000 miles  :grin:

He has had a few issues as well, various knocks, clunks, DSG mechatronic issues early on. . . .
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 14, 2013, 11:53:18 am
I agree to a point with what you are saying but I wouldn't call a vtec engine simple, far from it. Sad to say they are just better engineered, one only has to look at the 'troubleshooting' section on this forum, the extent of problems on a model barely 8 years old is quite staggering likewise the opinions of the experts in 'Car mechanics' mag as per VAG products. I have had a good time in this car, but it is just not reliable and vw will never see me again!

The VTEC technology is actually quite simple, it uses oil pressure powered solenoids which are faily simple technology  :happy2:

Its just well tried and tested. Rubber valves and electrical sensors which turbo cars use are more prone to failure. Turbo engines are very reliant on the amount of sensors they have to ensure the correct fuel & air mixture. They also require coil packs to create a strong enough spark, another weakness.

Its a shame Honda have been forced down this route. I'm keen to see how reliable they make it
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: graeme on January 14, 2013, 01:31:21 pm
My friend had a 1.8T hybrid ibiza mk3... absolutely loved it until it started to have a couple of issues with it. So he decided that he was going to go buy a type r .. needless to say he got an absolute hammering from the vw boys but seemed pretty happy. One week in the exhaust fell off wheel bearing needed done and a cv gator. We all laughed then about 2 weeks later he called asking for a lift because cylinder one and three both bent rods and smashed up pistons so much so that most of the piston was found in the sump! New engine it had only done 30K from new!

All cars have reliability issues especially if that car has not been looked after.
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: diesel junior on January 14, 2013, 02:17:33 pm
I agree that ANY car can have reliability issues but from my own experience VW more than most - http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/what-car-reliability-survey-2012/263555 - for a 2005 car to be falling apart at the seams (as mine is) is totally unacceptable, despite it having a full VWSH. That Honda Civic engine may well have blown but i would imagine that the owner had a new engine installed in less time than i have been waiting for a working heater to be put into mine........in the meantime as the Golf sits redundant and useless the 1994 Corrado keeps on going, and keeping its passengers warm as well.....
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Post by: berg on January 14, 2013, 02:40:16 pm
the build qulaity on VW's is not what it was, but even Mercedes had issues did they not?

I was always under the impression that Japanese built the best engines and Germans the best bodies. Are BMW's and Audi's still not bombproof when it comes to rust/weathering? 

We need Nissan and BMW to do a joint GT-R M car...
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: homesqueeze on January 14, 2013, 07:50:48 pm
My unmodded GTI is coming up to 8 years old and although I've had a fair few minor issues over the years I haven't had any serious problems. Having rust needing fixing is probably the worst thing, which I agree is unacceptable these days. Otherwise it seems to be plodding along fine at the moment.
Title: Re: Lost all love for my gti
Post by: zerolag on January 15, 2013, 10:01:12 am
Once you have a big bill on a car people get put off that brand, sometimes for life.
They all have issues, keeping it Jap look at the Toyota.lexus stuck accelerator problem, and the inline 5th injector problems to plague the modern Toyota.lexus 2.2 Diesel engines... Which keeps reoccurring even after replacement.

Drop onto any car forum to experience how any car has its problems.  I owned a SAAB 95 Aero, supposedly not very reliable, but it was bulletproof for me up to 160k when I sold it.

I think to a certain degree, luck and mechanical sympathy plays a part.