MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: DFish on January 13, 2013, 08:43:17 pm
Does anyone know if the BNM head will fit and work with a BKD engine, and also if it suffers the same leaky head issue as the BKD's?

Thanks
Fish
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 13, 2013, 08:46:25 pm
BMN doesnt suffer not sure if it will fit though
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: marko on January 13, 2013, 08:51:05 pm
different injectors so i would guess its a different head...
someone here with ETKA will be able to check it out
 :happy2:
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 13, 2013, 08:58:57 pm
Deffo different injectors, BMN has the troublesome Siemens PPD's

I know of someone who has fitted PD140 injectors into a PD170 though so get round the issue of them injectors so.. could be possible
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Andy on January 13, 2013, 09:01:24 pm
i was told they wouldn't fit
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: DFish on January 13, 2013, 09:22:00 pm
Thanks for the replies. I think I might drop DevonMikeyBoy an email, as he's played with different combinations.

Fish
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Dannyboy88 on January 13, 2013, 09:25:57 pm
Can't you fit the newer revision BKD head which is the C version I think? Its ment to be stronger than the A and B version.
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 13, 2013, 09:35:38 pm
i was told they wouldn't fit

a guy abroad has done it, hes also fitted the PD140 ecu , but the car was running like a pig
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: marko on January 13, 2013, 09:43:03 pm
why???

put a pd140 ecu in a car with 170hp engine
 :ashamed:
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 13, 2013, 09:57:33 pm
why???

put a pd140 ecu in a car with 170hp engine
 :ashamed:

At the time there was no way of the getting the Siemens PPD ECU and Injectors of producing the amount of boost he required for his hybrid turbo so to get round this he fitte the Bosch set up then he could get the boost he needed, The Siemens ECU has got like a boost limiter on it that cant be removed

Since then some developments have been made and the Siemens ECU can now be tricked into making more boost than it thinks it is
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: marko on January 13, 2013, 10:17:12 pm
 :happy2: :happy2:
very good
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 13, 2013, 10:18:32 pm
Lad called Kilner in UK has got a Hybrid PD170 set up now producing about 260bhp, hes also getting another Custom Turbo made for it before fitting bigger injectors
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Andy on January 13, 2013, 10:41:30 pm
Lad called Kilner in UK has got a Hybrid PD170 set up now producing about 260bhp, hes also getting another Custom Turbo made for it before fitting bigger injectors
his build thread is amazing -I was thinking ogre going down the bigger turbo dark side and  injectors but think i will be happy  between 220-240 but you never know
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 13, 2013, 11:12:25 pm
i sold my PD170 when i was running Stage2+ Shark Mapping which went very well

I was convinced nobody would run a hybrid turbo.. Jamie has proven me wrong, hes a nice lad and he's not scared to show up companies who are lieing!

Sometimes i wish i had kept the PD170 now
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Matto on January 13, 2013, 11:24:19 pm
Lad called Kilner in UK has got a Hybrid PD170 set up now producing about 260bhp, hes also getting another Custom Turbo made for it before fitting bigger injectors

I've been slowly working my way through yours and Kilners build threads on TDisport.
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Andy on January 14, 2013, 12:10:19 am
Lad called Kilner in UK has got a Hybrid PD170 set up now producing about 260bhp, hes also getting another Custom Turbo made for it before fitting bigger injectors

I've been slowly working my way through yours and Kilners build threads on TDisport.
bet you have put the kettle on a few times then :signLOL:
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Statller-Stevo on January 14, 2013, 12:13:17 am
Does anyone know if the BNM head will fit and work with a BKD engine, and also if it suffers the same leaky head issue as the BKD's?

Thanks
Fish

Yes it will fit  :happy2:
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Andy on January 14, 2013, 12:15:56 am
Does anyone know if the BNM head will fit and work with a BKD engine, and also if it suffers the same leaky head issue as the BKD's?

Thanks
Fish

thats good to know Steve :happy2:

Yes it will fit  :happy2:
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 14, 2013, 12:27:20 am
Lad called Kilner in UK has got a Hybrid PD170 set up now producing about 260bhp, hes also getting another Custom Turbo made for it before fitting bigger injectors

I've been slowly working my way through yours and Kilners build threads on TDisport.
bet you have put the kettle on a few times then :signLOL:


Jamie's thread is bigger than mine haha, and alot of my thread is me and him "arguing" or "discussing" stuff haha, i was convienced at the start that Shark didnt know what they where doing and JBS was better...how wrong i was.
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: DFish on January 14, 2013, 07:26:02 am
I've currently been getting circa 210 out of my hybrid and thats not running it at the full boost settings.

Steve (Stattlers) thanks, something I'll be looking at.

Fish
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 14, 2013, 07:46:53 pm
I've currently been getting circa 210 out of my hybrid and thats not running it at the full boost settings.

Steve (Stattlers) thanks, something I'll be looking at.

Fish

PD170 or PD140? or CR?
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: DFish on January 14, 2013, 09:13:54 pm
PD140
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 14, 2013, 09:19:13 pm
Was gonna say if its PD170 with hybrid i would be very dissapointed with the figures.

Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: DFish on January 14, 2013, 09:32:34 pm
Not as much as I would be. ;)
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 14, 2013, 09:41:31 pm
Haha  :happy2:

get yourself a GTB2260VK bolted on  :innocent:
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: DFish on January 15, 2013, 06:57:43 pm
I think I'll get any possible head issues sorted before blowing a couple of grand on a new turbo setup + other required mods.

Fish
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 15, 2013, 07:24:18 pm
Interesting results from today

Kilner (Jamie) put a challenge on Darkside Developments, RR his set up and if it makes more than 250bhp the RR is free

From what i gathered they ran his PD170 Hybrid Setup (RS Tuning mapped) against their Octavia with GTB2260VK (Dont think its got injectors yet)

And from what i can see they both roughly made 250bhp  :drinking:
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Jimbo_h on January 15, 2013, 09:40:05 pm
So similar power for roughly a third the price? !
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Andy on January 15, 2013, 09:50:30 pm
Just been reading that on this sport forum,excellent results on his car thou
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: AndrewJB on January 15, 2013, 09:52:08 pm
Once they both have Injectors fitted though it might be different results, Jamie is running WMI aswell
Title: Re: BKD/BNM Heads
Post by: Andy on January 15, 2013, 09:53:50 pm
Was the 250 with out using wmi