MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: vik2001 on January 17, 2013, 06:48:55 pm
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I have a totally standard Ed30, 31k mileage and excellent condition.
Im thinking of doing some minor mods in terms of performance but dont want to go over board. What can i do?
I was thinking of getting a Forge twintake. Now if i do this will anything else have to be done along side this? Also is Forge the best choice for the Ed30?
Also how will doing the above affect servicing? do filters need to be changed or cleaned on twintake, will VW do this or not touch it?
If i was to get a Revo stage 1 should i do it after the forge twintake or before its fitted?
Also my Ed30 is 2007 model, im concerned about the DV should this be checked/replaced before the twintake is installed..
thanks
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An aftermarket air intake on its own isn't going to add much performance so you best consider a remap and a performance high-flow exhaust and then all three mods will give you gains.
But beware that modding is a very slippery slope!
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ok thanks
can you give some suggestion RR on what you said, which remap/exhause etc for my Ed30?
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R Tech remap
BCS exhaust
Air Intake (take yr pick!?)
Id suggest however to have DV checked for tears!
Slippery slope as RR said! ;-)
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Hi Vik.
As Robin said all three would certainly be noticeable, Revo or APR or GIAC or Bluefin etc are good for remaps. Milltek are pretty good for exhausts, Forge, VW Racing or ITG are all good intakes.
Use the search function on here or check out peoples cars on the 'members rides' section and you'll see what approach people take.
Ultimately it's up to you and what you prefer looks wise and price/budget.
Stage 1 remap with a turbo-back exhaust system plus an intake will definitely get you grinning! :evilgrin:
Andy.
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I'd go for a decent custom Stage 1 map e.g. R-tech and some better front pads e.g. Tarox Corsa then enjoy it for a few months and perhaps then look at other performance mods; TBE / IK / LSD / BB... ... :happy2:
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Yes, don't forget the LSD! :evilgrin: - Power is useless without traction.
To hell with the expense!
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Yes, don't forget the LSD! :evilgrin: - Power is useless without traction.
To hell with the expense!
YOU are a bad bad influence on this forum :grin:
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Yes, don't forget the LSD! :evilgrin: - Power is useless without traction.
To hell with the expense!
In fact yeah just go completely mental with the modifications!
I quote the film Platoon................what are you saving up to be?? Jewish? :grin:
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Yes, don't forget the LSD! :evilgrin: - Power is useless without traction.
To hell with the expense!
:signLOL:
Love this forum. I joined, I opened my wallet, I turned it upside down..... And I've been shaking it ever since!! Your a long time dead.
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work i have to get done on my ed30
- get DV checked, i want to be on safe side make sure its OK - dunno why just a itch i got to get it checked.
- cambelt and water pump change
- DSG service
- brake fluid
- a/c service
- major service
after this i had about £600 to spend so i decided im just going to get a Neuspeed P Flo Intake and leave it at that, and keep everything else stock. :P
also going to put this custom sub enclosure in the back, very oem look. i already got the dynaudio sound pack, but will prob add a additional amp with a 10" sub
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Intake is useless with out a Re-Map - It will feel like a whole new car when you get it done :happy2:
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Intake is useless with out a Re-Map - It will feel like a whole new car when you get it done :happy2:
from what i read i agree, i just like the sound of the noise a intake makes. dont hit me people :popcornsoda:
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X 100! U mite get an extra 3bp if u r lucky, and a noise! I dont know how much this intake is tbh, but if new I doubt its much less than a custom map from the likes of R Tech, the latter putting an infinitely bigger smile on yr face!!
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If you don't want to do much to the car just get a remap and r32 front brake kit this should cost you about £700-£1000 fitted depending on where you go !
IMO that's the best money you can spend, the brakes aren't very good and the differance a remap makes is very good !
For another £300 you could get an anti lift kit and lower engine mount, that's where my next few pounds would go - if you decide to go further.
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Defo. The remap is going to be the best bang for buck mod on a turbo motor. period.
By upping the power with a remap, quite considerably with the K04 Ed.30 (from ~230 to ~ 300) you'll definitely have some more noises to enjoy without TBE / IK etc.
Enjoy the progression, rather than whacking everything on at once. Each to their own though hey, enjoy :)
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For another £300 you could get an anti lift kit and lower engine mount, that's where my next few pounds would go - if you decide to go further.
....If you talking about a full lower engine mounts and not just a poly insert, then I would advise having the other two engine mounts changed as well but this would cost you more. The reason I say this is so that all 3 engine mounts are more evenly balanced and the forces will be distributed more evenly. That's what I was advised.
Perhaps it's best just to start off with a remap and then see what you feel your car needs to suit your style of driving.
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As already said go re-map first for engine, biggest bang for buck.
If you have DSG that should be your next mod in terms of a stage 1 map ( makes it amazing to drive )
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Remap - No brainer..
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I had revo stage 1 map and DSG st 2 last week on my ED30.
It changes what was a quick car into a very fast car :driver:
Do it u wont regret it :smiley:
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I had revo stage 1 map and DSG st 2 last week on my ED30.
It changes what was a quick car into a very fast car :driver:
Do it u wont regret it :smiley:
What the DSG like, didnt know the DSG maps had stages.... :popcornsoda:
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What the DSG like, didnt know the DSG maps had stages.... :popcornsoda:
....Revo call their K03 DSG remap Stage 1 and their K04 DSG remap is called Stage 2, AFAIK.
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Stage 1 remap(I'd go Revo!), r32 front brakes, lower engine mounts, s3 console bushes/WALK/SALK, and suspension mods such as coilovers and arb's and you'd have one sorted car...
Don't go stage2/2+ unless you want to pay out on new clutch on a manual...
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I have a totally standard Ed30, 31k mileage and excellent condition.
Im thinking of doing some minor mods in terms of performance but dont want to go over board. What can i do?
Keep enjoying the stock car or do the complete program:
- remap
- downpipe + exhaust
- clutch if you don't have DSG
- LSD
- uprated engine mounts
Not to mention uprated brakes, tyres and suspension.
No, there is NO half way other than just a stage 1 remap from my (long term) experience on the forums.
If you want more than, say, 280 BHP and 380 Nm, you WILL need a new clutch + engine + mounts + DP . . .
The truth is it's not that easy it looks on the first view.
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Hi,
Having been in exactly the same positions s you.. With a nice shiny ed30 ready to be ruined/made awesome..
Agree with getting everything checked out first, made sure its as good under the hood as you think it is before you start..
Then..
I did a revo stage 1 remap first, accompanied with a new forge DV.
Great mod, just opens the car up, not crazy quick, but pretty quick.. You still get sound changes from the exhaust note, Nd a great downshift blip from the dsg.
Then save up while you're enjoying the ride, cos in about 3 months you'll be wanting a full turbo back exhaust, intake, and an updated fuel pump and a stage 2+, then you'll have an itch about brakes...
Good luck with what you decide to do..
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remap and change the front brakes to the r32set up for now
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I have a totally standard Ed30, 31k mileage and excellent condition.
Im thinking of doing some minor mods in terms of performance but dont want to go over board. What can i do?
Keep enjoying the stock car or do the complete program:
- remap
- downpipe + exhaust
- clutch if you don't have DSG
- LSD
- uprated engine mounts
Not to mention uprated brakes, tyres and suspension.
No, there is NO half way other than just a stage 1 remap from my (long term) experience on the forums.
If you want more than, say, 280 BHP and 380 Nm, you WILL need a new clutch + engine + mounts + DP . . .
The truth is it's not that easy it looks on the first view.
....Bruce speaks the truth.
Understood that you don't want to remortgage your home to fund your car mods, but it is a good idea to sit back and decide just how you want your car to be in the long term and how you want to use your car - Occasional trackdays for example?
Obviously how long you intend to keep your car is a factor.
The beauty of doing your program of mods gradually is that you experience what each mod does and also, if you have any problems, it's easier to diagnose by the process of elimination. It's easier on your cashflow too. It's taken me 7 years to get my ride to where she is now - Very driveable, handles extremely well, and balanced power without over stressing and now at 105,000 miles.
It's a great journey and there's so many helpful folks on this forum with specialist knowledge and skills. :happy2:
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Another vote for r32 brake upgrade here. Standard brakes are pants
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Another vote for r32 brake upgrade here. Standard brakes are pants
....Better if you also put R32/S3 (they are the same) on the rear. It balances up the braking better - At least it does with AP Racing's brakes on the front - Keeps the car very even under hard braking.
Modding is a slippery slope!
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I don't buy into the argument about brake upgrades. I have a revo stage1 eddy with an ITG intake pushing around 300 bhp with standard brakes which is perfect for road use. I honestly think that unless you intend to take your car on a track then the standard brakes are fine.
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Fit bigger brakes and then say that...
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For track use yes. But for road use IMO the standard set up is fine. Perhaps I drive like a grandad!!
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I don't buy into the argument about brake upgrades. I have a revo stage1 eddy with an ITG intake pushing around 300 bhp with standard brakes which is perfect for road use. I honestly think that unless you intend to take your car on a track then the standard brakes are fine.
....I used to think that and even politely refused AP Racing's offer of their brakes until one hot summer I was really enjoying some enthusiastic driving and experienced nearly running out of brakes and kissing the wheelnuts of a large lorry! I contacted AP the next day.
I'd much rather have powerful brakes and not always need them than need them only once and not have them. A car doesn't know whether it's on road or track, but of course as you say they are needed more often on trackdays because you are braking hard so often.
The only trouble with strong brakes is that you have to watch for the guy behind you who doesn't and is using your brakes lights to tell him when to brake.