MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: DaveD on January 22, 2013, 01:50:01 pm
I'm in the market for a GTI, and after driving a few DSG's decided thats what i wanted. My budget will probably get me a 2006/2007 and most seem to have between 50-80k miles.

I've been reading on a few forums that most would stay away from a DSG of that age without a warranty.

Whats your thoughts, and how many have actually had DSG problems and what bills did you face?

Cheers!
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Tamiyoman on January 22, 2013, 02:00:19 pm
Those advising to stay away basically prefer manuals or have not had DSG.

I have had mine for 15 months without issue, it was repaired (Mechatronics) under warranty by VW free of charge before I bought it, there was a batch of 07-08 cars that seem to have been affected, would not worry about it personally.
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Saintsteve on January 22, 2013, 02:30:31 pm
most cars would of had by now replacement Mechs units as it tended to affect cars in the early days.

symptoms would be slow selecting reverse gear, or jolty 1st and 2nd gear selection, or would could be also described as someone who has bad clutch control when you pull off from a standing start.


I wouldn't buy a GTi or a volkswagon if it didn't have DSG.

Best option in the options list.IMO

Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: andyR43 on January 22, 2013, 02:42:26 pm
I have a 102k mile 2006 Gti with DSG and the box is superbly smooth (even more noticably so after coming from a car with a triple plate clutch!! :grin:). I just checked the box had had regular oil changes.  :smiley:
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RobboGTI on January 22, 2013, 04:14:21 pm
I'm on 80k and my gearbox is lovely! Don't think I'd ever want anything other than DSG again!
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RedRobin on January 22, 2013, 04:22:42 pm
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I'm on 105k and had a Mechatronics replaced under VW warranty at ~6k. She's an 05-plate 06-spec Mk5 GTI.

Like others here, I wouldn't want ANY car that didn't have DSG or its flappy paddle equivalent.

DSG is the best of both worlds:  Drive automatic in D-mode for urban and traffic jam crawls and pop her into M and Think Manual for everything else.

You have already said you like DSG (a prejudice is the biggest obstacle which most first timers have) so if you don't go for one you'll always be wondering. Of course, some drivers much prefer Manual - ETTO.

As others have posted - Regular DSG oil servicing is important.
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Kiwi on January 22, 2013, 04:40:06 pm
What everyone else has said.

I have DSG in my ED30, best car/gearbox by fair and to make it even better Revo the gearbox, it will take it from great to amazing

Kiwi
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Ranbeer Singh on January 22, 2013, 04:47:11 pm
DSG is fantastic  :congrats:

I was a little worried before I purchased mine but I have taken out an after market 3 year warranty which covers most of the car, including the precious DSG box.. it only cost me £750 so not a bad price to pay for peace of mind  :happy2:

Rick
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Dubbin on January 22, 2013, 06:55:46 pm
I've had DSG for 6 years without any problems at all. As others have said would not consider another car without it.
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Oli on January 22, 2013, 07:00:44 pm
Ive had 5 golfs with DSG;
2006 GTI
2006 R32
2008 ED30
2007 ED30
2011 ED35

I have a the complete gearbox replaced in the R32 at approx 8k for a rattle under warranty, and on the 2007 Ed30, I had the mechatronics replaced for a jolty pull away, which unfortunately I had to pay for.  However, would I have another DSG, Damn right, in my view the best gearbox on the market  :happy2:
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: ReeceH13 on January 22, 2013, 07:02:44 pm
Had my car since Aug last year and touch wood the DSG is such a great piece of work. I certainly have had no issues, and prefer it to any other car driven
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: h4rdy on January 22, 2013, 07:32:31 pm
Miles better than the butter clutches VW fit into the manual cars.

And it can be remapped :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 22, 2013, 07:40:02 pm
Miles better than the butter clutches VW fit into the manual cars.

And it can be remapped :popcornsoda:

Tis true. I think if I knew I was going to remap a car in future I'd buy a DSG, knowing I wouldn't have to fork out for a clutch
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: DaveD on January 22, 2013, 09:46:01 pm
Thanks all, that's exactly what i wanted to hear  :happy2:

Now on with the search ....
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: h4rdy on January 22, 2013, 10:49:15 pm
Miles better than the butter clutches VW fit into the manual cars.

And it can be remapped :popcornsoda:

Tis true. I think if I knew I was going to remap a car in future I'd buy a DSG, knowing I wouldn't have to fork out for a clutch

I meant the gearbox can be remapped but yes you don't have to fork out for a new clutch when going to Stage 1 :signLOL:
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: SteveTDCi on January 22, 2013, 11:27:27 pm
I had dsg and I think the mechatronic unit was failing, well it did jerk about a bit. I would never have another, I hated it. It was useless in the snow too. Mine was an a3 tdi, I've tried a passat 2.0 tdi 2012 model and still didn't like it. If I was going to go for an auto I'd get a proper one not a dsg. I appreciate others love them though :)
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Tamiyoman on January 22, 2013, 11:42:18 pm
I drove my mothers automatic golf last year in the now and it was no better than my DSG, fit winter tyres and your fine  :happy2:
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RedRobin on January 22, 2013, 11:57:20 pm

I had dsg and I think the mechatronic unit was failing, well it did jerk about a bit. I would never have another, I hated it. It was useless in the snow too. Mine was an a3 tdi, I've tried a passat 2.0 tdi 2012 model and still didn't like it. If I was going to go for an auto I'd get a proper one not a dsg. I appreciate others love them though :)


....I respect and accept that you don't like driving a DSG car but how is driving in D-mode (automatic) on a DSG different from a "proper" automatic?
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: SteveTDCi on January 23, 2013, 07:22:25 am
When stuck in d at 70 mph there is no difference, but then neither is there with a manual. A proper auto when changing or pulling away is much smoother I find dsg a bit sharp, certainly as it accelerates.
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RobboGTI on January 23, 2013, 08:10:56 am
When stuck in d at 70 mph there is no difference, but then neither is there with a manual. A proper auto when changing or pulling away is much smoother I find dsg a bit sharp, certainly as it accelerates.

I'm sorry but my DSG is nothing apart from smooth. Couldn't imagine it being any better tbh :/
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RedRobin on January 23, 2013, 09:41:23 am

When stuck in d at 70 mph there is no difference, but then neither is there with a manual. A proper auto when changing or pulling away is much smoother I find dsg a bit sharp, certainly as it accelerates.


....When warmed up mine is very smooooth under acceleration and without that clutch slip sound and feel which many conventional automatic transmissions have. Even S-mode is smooth.

With added extensions to the flappy paddles I enjoy every mile.

But, as I said before, some folks simply prefer everything about a manual gearbox and there ain't nothing wrong with that  :happy2:
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RobboGTI on January 23, 2013, 09:54:17 am

When stuck in d at 70 mph there is no difference, but then neither is there with a manual. A proper auto when changing or pulling away is much smoother I find dsg a bit sharp, certainly as it accelerates.


....When warmed up mine is very smooooth under acceleration and without that clutch slip sound and feel which many conventional automatic transmissions have. Even S-mode is smooth.

With added extensions to the flappy paddles I enjoy every mile.

But, as I said before, some folks simply prefer everything about a manual gearbox and there ain't nothing wrong with that  :happy2:

Where is the best place to get these paddle extensions? And are there different styles?
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RedRobin on January 23, 2013, 10:05:36 am

Where is the best place to get these paddle extensions? And are there different styles?


....Contact forum member Mandy - She can get them for ~£25 and in a couple of different finishes.

Mine are expensive TID carbon ones which were the only extensions available when bought.  :happy2:
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RobboGTI on January 23, 2013, 10:07:18 am

Where is the best place to get these paddle extensions? And are there different styles?


....Contact forum member Mandy - She can get them for ~£25 and in a couple of different finishes.

Mine are expensive TID carbon ones which were the only extensions available when bought.  :happy2:

Will do just that. Thank you!
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RedRobin on January 23, 2013, 10:26:06 am

Where is the best place to get these paddle extensions? And are there different styles?


....Contact forum member Mandy - She can get them for ~£25 and in a couple of different finishes.

Mine are expensive TID carbon ones which were the only extensions available when bought.  :happy2:


Will do just that. Thank you!


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Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: TurboTrev on January 23, 2013, 12:49:04 pm
Just make sure you like DSG before you buy - for everyone that loves DSG there is just as many don't.  Also, make sure you get a warranty that covers it, 3 DSG cars belonging to my wife and my friends have all had recent issues with them, which would have cost a fortune if they had not been under warranty.  My wife has gone back to a manual now and we both prefer it.
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RedRobin on January 23, 2013, 12:57:25 pm

Just make sure you like DSG before you buy


....You are right but the OP has already stated that he has driven and wants a DSG.

There is no right or wrong whether you buy Manual or DSG - It's just down to your personal driving preference and BOTH can go wrong just like any other car component.
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: swgti on January 23, 2013, 01:48:27 pm
Forgive me for hijacking the post but I'm a total DSG virgin, never driven one or even been in one so do I have this right........

In drive it's just like a normal auto, do you then select another setting to change it to flappy paddles? and is the sport mode flappy paddle controlled but with a longer range in the revs?
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: RobboGTI on January 23, 2013, 02:01:39 pm
There's loads of ways you can drive.
Normal auto
Then if you for example shift down with the paddle it will override the auto temporarily
Sport will basically redline every gear if foot to the floor. I rarely use sport.
Or you can shift the stick across the manual where you can either use the gear stick to shift up and down or the paddles
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: S2 Ant on January 23, 2013, 02:08:21 pm
Had my GTi for almost 3yrs now, its an 07 plate and not had any DSG problems at all (touch wood lol)
Love the drive of a DSG car, i think its more sporty than a manual, esp with the paddles for shifting!
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on January 23, 2013, 02:19:49 pm
Have had my DSG GTI for just over 2 years with no issues (and afaik the mech unit has never failed/been replaced). I love the DSG box so much so that it would be difficult for me to get a car without DSG or its equivalent :happy2:

There was a poll on here about DSG issues a while back, not scientific but IIRC 57 plate's seemed to have the most issues.

Like with most things you will get more people online reporting something that has gone wrong than when things are working fine.
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: swgti on January 23, 2013, 02:26:26 pm
How often do they need serviced or need the oil changed, isn't it quite pricey?

Also heard quite a few on here talking about re-mapping them, what exactly do you get with a re-map?
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: S2 Ant on January 23, 2013, 02:46:15 pm
A DSG oil change from a dealer i think was around £150 from memory and receipts for my car - but this wasnt recent although i cant imagine its changed much since then.

I think its every 50k miles, but again, cant remember exactly but it is listed in the service docs for the car
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Stumpey on January 23, 2013, 02:59:08 pm
I have just had my DSG serviced cost me £178 at the VW stealer recommended to be done at 40K

I also really like the DSG mine is very smooth in D or S you can only really  tell its changing gear by the exhaust note changing.

Much better and smoother than previous "slushbox" auto's that I have owned.

Steve
 
Title: Re: How many have had DSG issues?
Post by: Shorty on January 23, 2013, 11:06:35 pm
Mine is sweet, been serviced once but I'll probably get it done again this year to keep it fresh.

You see loads of the American lads strapping 30's to their cars and the box takes it no problem!