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Title: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: E30Dom on January 24, 2013, 11:45:35 am
Umm,

Just had my GY Eagle F1 Assy2 fitted and on the side walls I can;t see any note of which way to be fitted but the sweeping line on the shoulder point toward the front on the drivers side and to the back on the passenger side...

Is this right?

Cheers,

Dom
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: rich83 on January 24, 2013, 11:53:09 am
Should be marked "outside"
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: ARV_90 on January 24, 2013, 11:54:26 am
My wife has taken the car to work as I could of looked at mine for you... to be honest it doesn't sound right to me bud, Maybe worth taking it somewhere else for them to check.... Although it may be a tad cheeky but worth a go.  :wink:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: camfollower on January 24, 2013, 12:39:58 pm
Mine doesn't read OUTSIDE either, wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: Baz300 on January 24, 2013, 12:43:50 pm
I would take the wheel off and check that it does not say outside on the inside of the wheel.

I have eagle f1s on my monzas and am on my second set of f1s on my CH's and they all say outside
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: ScrupesGTI on January 24, 2013, 12:45:53 pm
Umm,

Just had my GY Eagle F1 Assy2 fitted and on the side walls I can;t see any note of which way to be fitted but the sweeping line on the shoulder point toward the front on the drivers side and to the back on the passenger side...

Is this right?

Cheers,

Dom


Yes, sounds perfect to me, they'd have to make left and right tyres to get the "sweeping line" to face forwards on both sides wouldnt they?

The directional tyres would have an arrow to show the direction of travel and Assimetric tyres usually do have the note to either fit inside ot outside. Check the inside edge too as some manufacturers state that only.

Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: Andy on January 24, 2013, 12:49:51 pm
might just have inside printed on them--but just check them
http://www.puretyre.co.uk/tyre-information/tyre-manufactures/goodyear-tyres/
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: Jgoodwood on January 24, 2013, 01:10:01 pm
Assymetric = they have an outside and an inside but they are not directional. If you google image search the tyre, you will see that the tread is different inside the shoulder tread - you'll easily be able to see if they are on the right way or not once you've looked at the images on the net.

Hope that helps..
J
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: rich83 on January 24, 2013, 01:10:28 pm
Just checked mine... they are marked "INSIDE" on the inside! :happy2:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: E30Dom on January 24, 2013, 01:19:30 pm
Just checked mine... they are marked "INSIDE" on the inside! :happy2:

Which ways do the sweeping line on the shoulder point?
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: ARV_90 on January 24, 2013, 01:20:40 pm
Assymetric = they have an outside and an inside but they are not directional. If you google image search the tyre, you will see that the tread is different inside the shoulder tread - you'll easily be able to see if they are on the right way or not once you've looked at the images on the net.

Hope that helps..
J

Perfect answer bud... was thinking the same myself.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: E30Dom on January 24, 2013, 01:22:31 pm
Yeah so aslong as the sweeping pattern is on the shoulder both sides then they're on right... as someone said, they would have to make L & R tyres to get this the same...

Thanks Guys! :love:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: rich83 on January 24, 2013, 01:33:06 pm
INSIDE.....  :wink: look and you will see... no guess work  :smiley:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: fab5freddy on January 24, 2013, 01:57:45 pm
yep mine say "inside" from memory
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: E30Dom on January 24, 2013, 02:13:16 pm
INSIDE.....  :wink: look and you will see... no guess work  :smiley:

But that means taking the wheel off ...  :rolleye:

Sure they're fine, the outside part of the pattern is on the outside of all the wheels...

Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: homesqueeze on January 24, 2013, 03:54:33 pm
The definition of asymmetric is that one side is different to the other. So as long as the edge of the tyres on one side of the car is the exact reverse of the other then it's all good!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: RedRobin on January 24, 2013, 05:29:08 pm

The definition of asymmetric is that one side is different to the other. So as long as the edge of the tyres on one side of the car is the exact reverse of the other then it's all good!  :happy2:


....Yes but Goodyear have designed their asymmetric tread patterns to work best when they are fitted such that the word INSIDE appears on the inside.

If the tyre has no such marking my first thought would be that they weren't manufactured by Goodyear but may be a Chinese copy - It has been known in the world of tyres unfortunately.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: homesqueeze on January 24, 2013, 06:39:16 pm

The definition of asymmetric is that one side is different to the other. So as long as the edge of the tyres on one side of the car is the exact reverse of the other then it's all good!  :happy2:


....Yes but Goodyear have designed their asymmetric tread patterns to work best when they are fitted such that the word INSIDE appears on the inside.

If the tyre has no such marking my first thought would be that they weren't manufactured by Goodyear but may be a Chinese copy - It has been known in the world of tyres unfortunately.

This is true, I was just meaning that it's normal for the tread to be pointing differently from one side to the other. I did think it would be strange if it wasn't marked inside.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: rich83 on January 24, 2013, 08:50:38 pm
The definition of asymmetric is that one side is different to the other. So as long as the edge of the tyres on one side of the car is the exact reverse of the other then it's all good!  :happy2:

Incorrect. They must be put on specifically according to the tread.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: homesqueeze on January 25, 2013, 08:41:20 am
The definition of asymmetric is that one side is different to the other. So as long as the edge of the tyres on one side of the car is the exact reverse of the other then it's all good!  :happy2:

Incorrect. They must be put on specifically according to the tread.

Yes I didn't explain it too clearly I admit. I know it's important that the inside and outside are the correct way round. Like I said above though I was just trying to say that there is no need to worry if the tread on one side is facing the opposite way on the other side as this is normal for asymmetrics.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on January 25, 2013, 10:33:08 am
Vred ultrac sessanta's are asymmetrical. The pattern will be going the opposite way on each side. I think thats what homesqueeze meant.


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flovetyres.com%2Fpublic%2Ftyre%2Fvredestein-ultrac-sessanta-mounting.jpg&hash=9e866b899ade8088d4658cc9e1ce2d76f54f3969)
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: RedRobin on January 25, 2013, 11:34:27 am
^^^^
Vred's Sessanta treads look somewhat illogical. Why so very different from everyone else's asymmetrics? They don't seem to be all that popular and apparently are slow to gain any heat.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: rich83 on January 25, 2013, 12:02:51 pm
I agree robin... the pattern is too severe in my opinion.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: RedRobin on January 25, 2013, 12:13:45 pm

I agree robin... the pattern is too severe in my opinion.


....I remember in my chats with Goodyear Tech guys a while back (early GY Asymm 1 days) it being mentioned that some tyre manufacturers consciously try to design tread patterns to also have aesthetic appeal because it does effect sales.

Who in their right mind is going to select a tyre solely based on whether it has a pretty tread pattern!?  :stupid:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: Jgoodwood on January 25, 2013, 12:50:51 pm

I agree robin... the pattern is too severe in my opinion.


....I remember in my chats with Goodyear Tech guys a while back (early GY Asymm 1 days) it being mentioned that some tyre manufacturers consciously try to design tread patterns to also have aesthetic appeal because it does effect sales.

Who in their right mind is going to select a tyre solely based on whether it has a pretty tread pattern!?  :stupid:

I'm sure that good looking tyres help sales to some degree but also positive that the decent manufacturers would ensure their aesthetically pleasing designs also provide decent grip levels and disperse water...

J
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: RedRobin on January 25, 2013, 01:36:49 pm
^^^^
@ J:

Agreed. There are strict safety standards to adhere to. But it is amazing how different some tyre performances are functionally.
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: E30Dom on January 25, 2013, 06:37:46 pm
I like a good looking tyre... Haha

Love the look of the GY's fitted, the rim protector is HUGE!

surely the pattern expels water better one way or another?
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: Andy on January 25, 2013, 08:53:25 pm
i have customers who will pick a cheap tyre over a decent make just on tread pattern
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: RedRobin on January 25, 2013, 09:32:51 pm

i have customers who will pick a cheap tyre over a decent make just on tread pattern


....More fool them!  :stupid:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: Andy on January 25, 2013, 09:36:01 pm

i have customers who will pick a cheap tyre over a decent make just on tread pattern

yep explained the differences etc but its there choice
....More fool them!  :stupid:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: RedRobin on January 25, 2013, 09:41:51 pm

i have customers who will pick a cheap tyre over a decent make just on tread pattern


....More fool them!  :stupid:


yep explained the differences etc but its there choice


....Yep, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Assymetric Tyres?
Post by: E30Dom on January 25, 2013, 10:05:44 pm

i have customers who will pick a cheap tyre over a decent make just on tread pattern


....More fool them!  :stupid:


yep explained the differences etc but its there choice


....Yep, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.  :happy2:

How did you know it was a "him" horse?