MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Andy on January 25, 2013, 12:58:39 pm
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http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/RWD-Winter-Tyre-VS-Summer-Tyres-Race.htm
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:happy2:
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I could be wrong here, but surely the 1 series didnt help by flooring it, rather than easing it in like the M3 ? :confused:
Please can I also make it clear I 100% agree the winter tyres are better :happy2:
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Good video, wish they had a big 4x4 on summer tyres to compare with, that would have been interesting :evilgrin:
The case for winter tyres is clear, it's just exaggerated when you've got snow on the ground.
If you want the best performance during the cold, wet, winter months then fit quality winter tyres. If you want the best performance in the warmer summer months fit premium tyres, not ditch finders. Horses for courses and all that.
If you can afford it your sorted, if not then you've got to accept some compromise. I don't like walking on cold, wet, slippery, icy, snowy surfaces with my leather soled shoes on, much prefer it with something that has a good tread :stupid:
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Seem like the boys have answered my question - Anyone tell which 4x4 it is, I can't
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=STaximkaQxo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSTaximkaQxo
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Looks like a Forester.
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Seem like the boys have answered my question - Anyone tell which 4x4 it is, I can't
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=STaximkaQxo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSTaximkaQxo
Class - an otherwise well planted 4WD, vs a 340+bhp RWD sports car... great video... just shows there is simply no contest, those that think otherwise are in denial (there are people that still think summer tyres are ok in these circumstances :stupid:).
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The last few winters I've been driving round in my mates Discovery as he is in a rescue response group and the amount of people needing rescued is unreal.
One time we had a guy in a Jeep with low profile summers on, horizontal across the road at the bottom of a dip - we got him out otherwise he was in complete isolation...in a t-shirt.
It's all about the tyres on these conditions.
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Beema with summers LOL:
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The problem for most people is the justification in expense vs the amount of cold weather we get.
It was 12 degrees before the snow hit, and this weekend temps will be back up to 10 degrees.
Winter tyres are pretty useless in mild conditions.
I will be investing in some for next year, im going to get fed up swapping and changing as and when the weather feels like dipping below 6 degrees.
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My 335d with snow tyres on was awesome, travelled from Newcastle to Scottish Borders along the A1 in snow drifts, loads of 4x4's dumped at the roadside, got there and back easily. (Nokian WR3 tyres)
Now my BMW X5 SD (same engine as the 335d) is on snow tyres and is nowhere near as good as the RWD 335d was, yes it gets grip well, but the extra weight can really be felt. ( Pirelli scorpion ice & Snow)
My favourite combination is RWD and good winter tyres, so much more control and feel than any 4x4 or FWD car. I find that stopping is the most important thing in bad conditions, not acceleration.
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Winter tyres are pretty useless in mild conditions.
Not at all, my winters stayed on my 335d well into the spring. Many European countries have made it the law to use Winter tyres from mid October to the end of April.
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The snow will be gone in a week or so. Winters are pointless IMO for the most part.
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It is quite an initial expense, especially if you change cars regularly. I tend to keep cars for 5 years + so don't mind forking out.
Premium winters aren't bad in mild conditions just not as good as premium summer rubber - probably as good as cheaper summer rubber though.
My Dad has kept his winters on for 18 months! LOL - Reckons he can't tell the difference, he does drive like miss daisy though.
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The snow will be gone in a week or so. Winters are pointless IMO for the most part.
If you absolutely need York car then I think they are worthwhile, they sell very well on the used market as well and can recoup your costs easily. My 335d winter setup cost me £75 for some 17" alloys on ebay and £380 for tyres, used them for a full winter and spring and sold them or £400, cost me £55 overall.
I'd rather stay safe and be able to stop on ice for £55 and avoid massive repair bills if and when things go wrong! My X5 setup cost me £700 for used tyres and wheels with about 1mm of wear, last week I had to stop on an Icy hill, the cars in front, including a bus were sliding down it on sheet ice towards a busy T junction, I stopped with no issues, rolled down safety and slowly. I'm sure a smashed front end would cost a lot more than £700 to repair, and the extra insurance premiums after a claim.
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Vote for Nankang SV2's @ £100 a corner :happy2: I've not got stuck in anything with them, including a steep incline from a standing start in 5 inches of snow on a residential street.
They're also very good in the wet too. I'm certainly convinced and will get at least four winters out of them as the wear rate is pretty steady.
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The snow will be gone in a week or so. Winters are pointless IMO for the most part.
....Agreed.
You only need winter tyres if you have to drive in the snow and ice (December/January/February in the UK). A good quality tyre such as Goodyear's Asymmetrics are absolutely fine in the wet. You need to adjust your driving to the conditions and slow down in the wet regardless of your tyres because of reduced braking distances (on any tyre) and reduced visibility due to spray.
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Agree Robin, but driving to the conditions isn't always possible. On black ice even at very low speeds its easy to get into a slide, and there's not a thing you can do about it once it starts, like this:
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Wouldn't advise jumping out though :surprised:
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Accidents are just that, they happen because they are unplanned no matter how well your driving or planning for something to happen... unless your driving everywhere at 5mph and have employed a flag waver to escort you through the winter months. :laugh: Premium winters are superior at low wet temps and will stop you better than prem. summers like F1 AS2's in these conditions, where the latter compound has become too hard to work effectively... it's just the way it is.
Snowed heavily in April last year :wink:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimage.org%2Fndo96qx5b%2Fbrenig_April2012.jpg&hash=e0106d08ad79904f6533e9c7a612bfa20f123e17)
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Agree Robin, but driving to the conditions isn't always possible. On black ice even at very low speeds its easy to get into a slide, and there's not a thing you can do about it once it starts
....I know. From direct experience, 20 mph skid on black ice one christmas morning many moons ago while driving a heavy Ford Granada and ended up upside down in a field hanging from my safety belt and laughing my head off! The tyres back in those days were what? And the road hadn't been gritted.
As said earlier, my solution is to simply not bother to drive my car in the snow and ice. But I realise that some folks feel they don't have a choice and winter tyres etc will be best for them. I don't see why I should be legally obliged to have winter tyres just because it's March or whenever when I'm driving on a fine snowless day.
Very fine pic, 'camfollower' :happy2:
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that will be the cross ply tyres Robin :signLOL:
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that will be the cross ply tyres Robin :signLOL:
....I expect they definitely were cross ply on the big 1930 Rover I used to drive.
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UK is definitely a big PITA regarding Winter conditions... let's have the failing Jet Stream shift us into a Scandinavian climate or not - at least then we can snow chain up! :laugh: