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Title: Miltek cat back
Post by: MitchGTI on July 10, 2009, 07:07:24 pm
Ive just finished installing my miltek cat back took it for a drive for a few miles but doesnt seem that loud? Its a non res one all i get is a ripping like forcing air out noise but thats about it at the mo, will it get louder with time?

Cheers, mitch
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: Top Cat on July 10, 2009, 07:14:36 pm
Millteks are a quiet zorst even in non-res version and only come alive when in the higher rev range. Thats why they are so popular as you get the best of both worlds.  :happy2: Should also get a bit deeper tone as it matures.
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: Gene Hunt on July 10, 2009, 07:59:23 pm
If you don't get on with it put me first on the list if you sell it please. :laugh: :wink: :happy2:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: QD MBE on July 10, 2009, 08:11:50 pm
If you don't get on with it put me first on the list if you sell it please. :laugh: :wink: :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F9a7rs4.jpg&hash=c4606dd9718601b8101a69f137b86be5bdc75aab)
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: WhiteGTI on July 10, 2009, 08:17:35 pm
Hmmm :S I know that exhausts generally get louder as they get older and more coked up, but I've never heard what can be described as a 'quiet' non res....  :confused:

Hope everything works out ok dude.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: Top Cat on July 10, 2009, 08:35:59 pm
Hmmm :S I know that exhausts generally get louder as they get older and more coked up, but I've never heard what can be described as a 'quiet' non res....  :confused:

Hope everything works out ok dude.  :smiley:

I have been in a few now and when driving normally they are not much louder than stock, when you press the loud pedal then it becomes a different matter.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: Hurdy on July 10, 2009, 08:52:20 pm
The sound deadening in the GTI is very good and to hear what it is really like you need to be on the outside with someone else putting their foot down on the loud pedal :happy2:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: VC on July 10, 2009, 08:55:00 pm
 :grin: @ stokey
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: WhiteGTI on July 10, 2009, 11:09:30 pm
Hmmm :S I know that exhausts generally get louder as they get older and more coked up, but I've never heard what can be described as a 'quiet' non res....  :confused:

Hope everything works out ok dude.  :smiley:

I have been in a few now and when driving normally they are not much louder than stock, when you press the loud pedal then it becomes a different matter.  :smiley:

But I've seen Mitch's driving, and im 100% sure the first thing he did was floor it! hahaha!  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 10, 2009, 11:54:43 pm

The sound deadening in the GTI is very good and to hear what it is really like you need to be on the outside with someone else putting their foot down on the loud pedal :happy2:

....Get a full set of engine mounts - Adds awesome sounds in the cabin alongside the exhaust sound. Review to be posted tomorrow.
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: GTIjames on July 11, 2009, 12:27:17 am

The sound deadening in the GTI is very good and to hear what it is really like you need to be on the outside with someone else putting their foot down on the loud pedal :happy2:

....Get a full set of engine mounts - Adds awesome sounds in the cabin alongside the exhaust sound. Review to be posted tomorrow.


x2 engine mounts work a treat in improving cabin noise as well as a number of other areas, even with a resonated miltek its
good and loud enough for me; with a non-res it woukd be rather  :evilgrin: i imagine.
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: MitchGTI on July 11, 2009, 01:48:12 am
What are you trying to say chris! Lol! Ive been driving it a few miles tonight it seems to be getting quite abit louder now! But im loving the noise! cant wait to get the front section on now!
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: no golf clubs at all on July 11, 2009, 06:01:15 am
I've got milly quad tails. Still no louder really, sometimes I drive with the windows down explicitly to hear her. Especially through tunnels, then it's very very cool. Think it needs the hi flow and down pipe to make it louder. Didn't realise engine mounts would assist with it.... Are they expensive?
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2009, 10:05:17 am

...to make it louder. Didn't realise engine mounts would assist with it.... Are they expensive?


....Rather than hijack this thread, I'll be posting my engine mounts review later today and costs etc will be included. Please hang on in there :drinking:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: big al on July 11, 2009, 10:13:06 am
I just sorted a deal out with a guy on e bay selling his exhaust as I have been messed around a few times on e bay lately,
Twin exhausts, not used on his car £200, sounds like a deal to me. SO do these actually add much power to the car, or do they just look nice and make a nice sound?
How easy are they to fit?
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: Top Cat on July 11, 2009, 10:18:33 am
I just sorted a deal out with a guy on e bay selling his exhaust as I have been messed around a few times on e bay lately,
Twin exhausts, not used on his car £200, sounds like a deal to me. SO do these actually add much power to the car, or do they just look nice and make a nice sound?
How easy are they to fit?

What twin exhaust are you meaning.  :chicken:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2009, 10:32:12 am

I've got milly quad tails. Still no louder really, sometimes I drive with the windows down explicitly to hear her. Especially through tunnels, then it's very very cool. Think it needs the hi flow and down pipe to make it louder.


....Yes, the Y-configuration quad pipes don't make any significant sound difference. However, the virtually empty rear box plus independent quad pipes make a huge difference - Such that a small resonator box is necessary.

When I'm ready, Milltek are going to build me a slightly louder resonator box to test but I want to get used to the sound mix with my new engine mounts first. Milltek will then subsequently be able to publicly offer two versions of 'loudness' in their usual way.

Linky : - Milltek - Pre-production - Review.... (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5377.0)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FMilltekQuads_May09_Res.jpg&hash=68f81bbb6b650c4cd31d019615911384e30de456)
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2009, 10:36:17 am

SO do these actually add much power to the car, or do they just look nice and make a nice sound?


....The Milltek system only makes a significant addition/contribution to power when you have the TBE (High-flow cat) AND you have a remap. The ordinary cat-back will improve throttle response and possibly add 2 or 3 bhp but for performance you need a TBE (includes downpipe) AND a reputable remap (from a tuner whom Milltek have tested with).

HTH :happy2:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: CarrG on July 11, 2009, 11:28:17 am
I find my tbe non res milly really loud! Am i just getting old?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: no golf clubs at all on July 11, 2009, 12:54:46 pm
^^^Have you got a hole in it? duh what do I know  :signLOL:

one of these days I'm gonna off the quads and stump up for a twin, with of course an ed30 rear me thinks. ......

Just a mad thought..could I cut and seal one of the outlets thereby leaving a twin in situ? Or is that totally mental **runs away waving arms like a gay man*** sorry just thinking out loud....
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2009, 03:18:56 pm

I find my tbe non res milly really loud! Am i just getting old?  :laugh:


....Don't worry - When you get even older the Non-Res won't be loud enough! :grin:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2009, 03:20:59 pm

Just a mad thought..could I cut and seal one of the outlets thereby leaving a twin in situ? Or is that totally mental **runs away waving arms like a gay man*** sorry just thinking out loud....
 

....I would have a word with someone at Milltek like Charlie before doing anything like that - It may interfere with the exhaust gasses flow - Best to ask the experts who know how their product works.

:happy2:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: no golf clubs at all on July 11, 2009, 04:19:25 pm
Yep... Though I don't think I'd have the bottle to discuss butchering one of their materpieces.
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2009, 04:37:41 pm

Yep... Though I don't think I'd have the bottle to discuss butchering one of their materpieces.


....Well, I expect they would confirm my thinking (in ignorance of the technical details) that it would interfere with the flow and therefore they wouldn't be able to support their product guarantee. I'm sure that Milltek wouldn't be unfriendly to you though if you contacted them.

I'm sure they wouldn't advise it but the bottom line is that it is yours to do what you want with. However, I think it might be easier for you to buy a second-hand Milltek twin pipe backbox section.
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: SteveP on July 11, 2009, 04:42:13 pm

....Well, I expect they would confirm my thinking (in ignorance of the technical details) that it would interfere with the flow and therefore they wouldn't be able to support their product guarantee. I'm sure that Milltek wouldn't be unfriendly to you though if you contacted them.

I'm sure they wouldn't advise it but the bottom line is that it is yours to do what you want with. However, I think it might be easier for you to buy a second-hand Milltek twin pipe backbox section.

That would be on the basis you can get them to reply to messages/emails  :angry015:

Yet another company that could do with some lessons in customer service  :fighting2:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: CarrG on July 11, 2009, 04:43:21 pm

Yep... Though I don't think I'd have the bottle to discuss butchering one of their materpieces.



I'm sure they wouldn't advise it but the bottom line is that it is yours to do what you want with. However, I think it might be easier for you to buy a second-hand Milltek twin pipe backbox section.

And my spare milly dp and cat  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2009, 05:07:34 pm

That would be on the basis you can get them to reply to messages/emails  :angry015:

Yet another company that could do with some lessons in customer service  :fighting2:


....That greatly surprises me. I assume you haven't taken the opportunity to speak to them in person (particularly Phil Millington) at any of the shows - Inters and Goodwood being the most recent.

Who have you been trying to get a response from at Milltek, Steve? (I'll help if I can).
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: MitchGTI on July 11, 2009, 06:45:14 pm
Spare milly downpipe n cat!?
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: CarrG on July 11, 2009, 07:07:26 pm
Spare milly downpipe n cat!?

My Luna Cupra got damaged so stripped it and bought another which already had milly tbe hence my one in the for sale section.
Glad your enjoying yours  :smiley:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: SteveP on July 11, 2009, 07:48:50 pm

That would be on the basis you can get them to reply to messages/emails  :angry015:

Yet another company that could do with some lessons in customer service  :fighting2:


....That greatly surprises me. I assume you haven't taken the opportunity to speak to them in person (particularly Phil Millington) at any of the shows - Inters and Goodwood being the most recent.

Who have you been trying to get a response from at Milltek, Steve? (I'll help if I can).

Thanks for the offer of help Robin but I won't be bothering with Milltek again and am on the look out for a different exhaust system.

I have tried a number of times to contact them via their website and directly via email.

If a company ignores customer communications like that I wouldn't waste my time chasing them down at shows TBH  :fighting:
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: MitchGTI on July 11, 2009, 10:57:05 pm
I want a dp now!
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: no golf clubs at all on July 12, 2009, 06:14:51 am
^^^Think you're on the wrong kind of web site for that!  :signLOL:

I'd like one too.... Well the milltek variety actually but I'm not certain that mitch's will fit, besides at £500 there is not much saving from new really. I think for me if I was gonna spend money in my tail it would just have to go for milly twin and ed30 rear valance first.
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: MitchGTI on July 12, 2009, 08:41:26 am
Ive already got my ed30 rear and splitter sat in my shed just waiting to get i fitted! I just want the noise and power gains of the dp now! Ahh i wish i had a money tree!
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: CarrG on July 12, 2009, 09:23:10 am
Open to offers tho guys. :)
Title: Re: Miltek cat back
Post by: MitchGTI on July 12, 2009, 09:28:42 am
Pm me a good price and ile take it

mitch