MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Cosmetic/Interior Modifications => Topic started by: TheBIGJAYY on February 04, 2013, 02:19:49 pm

Title: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 04, 2013, 02:19:49 pm

Hey Guys,

i have bought a MFSW and just got me an airbag sorted out for it.

all i need now it to find someone to remove my old one, fit it and code it up to the highline clocks.

i know Eddie on here can do it but he is a fair drive from where i live (chorley, northwest england)

so im basically trying to find someone locally to me who is able to fit this and code it up for me...

any help in this case would be much appreciated!

cheers,

Josh

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 04, 2013, 05:03:04 pm

Me and my brother can do it for you? We are in Bolton?

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: Steviedubs on February 04, 2013, 05:44:08 pm

Won't you need the steering controller for the MFSW? I needed it when fit mine. Can also code for you if needed, I'm in Bradford.

Title: Re: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: jason_rmh on February 04, 2013, 05:56:09 pm

Ideally you will need a ch steering control module.
It does depend on what slip ring is fitted as there are two types.

Jas

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 04, 2013, 07:09:19 pm

Arent CHs only really required if you are having a mk6 wheel?

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 04, 2013, 07:18:40 pm

you can use a ch controller with a mk5 wheel, you would also need to upgrade to a mk6 cruise stalk too

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: skard on February 04, 2013, 07:20:07 pm

You'll also need a new steering wheel loom for multifunction bud

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 05, 2013, 11:27:59 am

ahhh confusing!! joe that would be brill! i work in aspull so im only round the corner from you!  :happy2:

yeah i think eddie mentioned i need a ch control module...

basically i have a mk5 1.9tdi, currently have the 4spoke steering wheel...

i upgraded my clocks to the later version of the highline clocks and got the MFSW with the later version of the multi function buttons...iv just bought an airbag and cover from a gent on here...

i already have the cruise control stalk fitted from standard...will i need to change that also as it currently works with the highline clocks..?

cheers for the help guys!  :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: skard on February 05, 2013, 11:40:15 am

You need 1K0 971 584 C which is the airbag loom and allows the buttons to work. Your existing loom won't work with the wheel.

You don't need the CH module, older ones will work. There is a list on the Ross Tech Wiki of what modules work with what sliprings.

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 05, 2013, 02:55:30 pm

sooooo one like this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Airbag-harness-1k0971584c-1k0-971-854-C-/321067155942?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ac11801e6

would it be best to buy from elsewhere? not ebay?

and is that all i need to get it all working etc?  :happy2:

what would i do without u guys! haha  :love:

EDIT: just realised skard that its your old MFSW im trying to get fitted  :grin:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 05, 2013, 04:27:36 pm

Hopefully the controller you have may work but will only know when it gets scanned! You can get the loom from vw themselves or ebay as you said. Cant remember where mine was from! We can fit it this weekend but that doesnt give you lots of time to get the loom. Let us know!

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 05, 2013, 04:34:20 pm

It needs a Highend version, which is not fitted at the minute

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 05, 2013, 04:35:28 pm

Quote from: JoeDarKa on February 05, 2013, 04:27:36 pm

Hopefully the controller you have may work but will only know when it gets scanned! You can get the loom from vw themselves or ebay as you said. Cant remember where mine was from! We can fit it this weekend but that doesnt give you lots of time to get the loom. Let us know!

 :happy2: rock and roll mate!

well i will get in touch with my local VW dealership to see if they have any in stock and if not when they can get me one.

can you PM me your number joe please?

(its Josh from unphased btw  :happy2:)

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 05, 2013, 04:37:31 pm

Quote from: Eddie-NL on February 05, 2013, 04:34:20 pm

It needs a Highend version, which is not fitted at the minute

thanks for that eddie!

PM'd u regarding this!  :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: skard on February 05, 2013, 04:53:21 pm

Wondered when you'd click!

If I knew I could've scanned your car bud so you'd know what module you have now (to then figure out what slip ring you have)

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: marko on February 05, 2013, 04:59:40 pm

what part number is the slip ring which should be ok???
sorry for hijack josh!!
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 636 0070 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74EDE6EF1750D9B8354

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 05, 2013, 05:02:18 pm

Yeah i realised it was you josh! Have you got a controller or do you need one?

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: skard on February 05, 2013, 05:15:07 pm

Quote from: marko on February 05, 2013, 04:59:40 pm

what part number is the slip ring which should be ok???
sorry for hijack josh!!
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 636 0070 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74EDE6EF1750D9B8354

BC suggests a type 2, so try get a type 2 highend other than AQ as some software versions of this have problems with cruise.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Steering_Wheel_Control_Module_Versions

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 05, 2013, 05:27:53 pm

I fitted my old 974 clocks in his car, so he needs a new slip ring

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 05, 2013, 11:16:27 pm

Quote from: JoeDarKa on February 05, 2013, 05:02:18 pm

Yeah i realised it was you josh! Have you got a controller or do you need one?

No I need one of those!

I think Eddie is able to supply what I need?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 06, 2013, 03:22:46 pm

im getting confused on what i need here...

i have bought a C version slip ring off eddie which he said i needed...

i have ordered a controller which i beleive i required also...http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Golf-5-jetta-Elektronikmodul-fur-Lenkstockschalter-1K0953549BG-MFL-/190794268931?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item2c6c398103

thats the one i have ordered (exact one)

do i need anything else? someone mentioned an airbag loom? do i need to order one of those also? im real confused! haha

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 06, 2013, 03:26:13 pm

Quote from: TheBIGJAYY on February 06, 2013, 03:22:46 pm

im getting confused on what i need here...

i have bought a C version slip ring off eddie which he said i needed...

i have ordered a controller which i beleive i required also...http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Golf-5-jetta-Elektronikmodul-fur-Lenkstockschalter-1K0953549BG-MFL-/190794268931?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item2c6c398103

thats the one i have ordered (exact one)

do i need anything else? someone mentioned an airbag loom? do i need to order one of those also? im real confused! haha

Stop worrying

You have a BG controller ordered which is for mfsw
You have a C version slip ring from me
You only need a mfsw loom and airbag cover if you didn't buy an airbag

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: marko on February 06, 2013, 03:30:53 pm

 1K0 971 584 C

you need this airbag loom!!
 :happy2:

omedyz on here has a few for sale if you dont want to use main dealer!!
 :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 06, 2013, 03:31:32 pm

i bought this airbag + cover from a gent off here :

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60688.0.html

thanks eddie for your assistance!  :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: bigmig95 on February 06, 2013, 03:37:59 pm

Quote from: TheBIGJAYY on February 06, 2013, 03:31:32 pm

i bought this airbag + cover from a gent off here :

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60688.0.html

thanks eddie for your assistance!  :happy2:

Josh bought my airbag Ed, the one you removed the other week   :happy2: 

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 06, 2013, 04:30:36 pm

Quote from: bigmig95 on February 06, 2013, 03:37:59 pm

Quote from: TheBIGJAYY on February 06, 2013, 03:31:32 pm

i bought this airbag + cover from a gent off here :

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60688.0.html

thanks eddie for your assistance!  :happy2:

Josh bought my airbag Ed, the one you removed the other week   :happy2: 

thanks for confirming that mate!  :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 19, 2013, 09:45:51 am

ok had a bit of a headache with this over the weekend did me and joe!!

found i did actually need the multi function airbag loom...

also the slip ring we fitted doesnt seem to be working correctly, if couldnt register when my steering wheel was turning, we checked this through VCDS and the angle of the steering wheel didnt change when we where turning the wheel to full lock and back.

due to this it had caused my steering assist to fail and for some reason, turned my ESP off. so i had steering assist warning light and ESP warning light on my dash  :confused:

put the old CH controller on the error was still present, swapped the slipring back over to the old one again and after the left lock, right lock trick the errors went and my steering was back as normal!

has any1 experienced this before?

based on our findings as far as i can see the slipring is faulty and i will be in need of a new one!

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 19, 2013, 10:46:59 am

basic settings need to be performed in most cases, when the controller is changed

Slip ring doesn't cause the steering fault, it allows communication with the steering wheel

The G85 sensor has photosensors that read the different size plastic tabs on the back of the slip ring as the wheel is turned

If the mfsw works and the horn then that would indicate that the slip ring is ok

I would try basic settings
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60)#Basic_Setting

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 19, 2013, 05:02:03 pm

Quote from: Eddie-NL on February 19, 2013, 10:46:59 am

basic settings need to be performed in most cases, when the controller is changed

Slip ring doesn't cause the steering fault, it allows communication with the steering wheel

The G85 sensor has photosensors that read the different size plastic tabs on the back of the slip ring as the wheel is turned

If the mfsw works and the horn then that would indicate that the slip ring is ok

I would try basic settings
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60)#Basic_Setting

Hi Eddie!

thats great stuff thanks for posting mate!

i am missing the loom required for the multi function so ill get that ordered and we'll try again.

once again cheers for posting!!

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: skard on February 19, 2013, 05:33:27 pm

I did mention on the first page you'd need this loom  :P

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 20, 2013, 04:40:48 pm

Quote from: skard on February 19, 2013, 05:33:27 pm

I did mention on the first page you'd need this loom  :P

haha thanks for that dude  :P

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: omeydz on February 20, 2013, 04:44:06 pm

Iv got mfsw looms £30 delivered each new:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,51609.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,51609.0.html)

Towards the lower half of the page 1k0971584C

 :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 20, 2013, 04:56:40 pm

*face palm*

just ordered one of these off ebay for just under £40.

is there anyway i can cancel my order? litterally only ordered it this morning and i havent had an email saying its been shipped...

if i can cancel it ill have one off you!

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: omeydz on February 20, 2013, 04:59:07 pm

Just email seller saying its wrong part and to say your sorry and get them to refund and cancel transaction.

Should be ok hopefully :) .

Let us know   :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on February 20, 2013, 05:00:18 pm

Quote from: omeydz on February 20, 2013, 04:59:07 pm

Just email seller saying its wrong part and to say your sorry and get them to refund and cancel transaction.

Should be ok hopefully :) .

Let us know   :happy2:

just sent them an email saying i managed to find the part at a local VW suppliers  :P

asked them to refund my money and cancel the shipping.

i will be in touch with what they say mate! cheers for posting up on here pal!  :happy2:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: omeydz on February 20, 2013, 05:03:05 pm

Okie doke! No worries mate  :smiley:

Title: Re: MFSW Retro Fit
Post by: fransnz on April 16, 2013, 09:15:19 pm

Hey THEBIGJAYY

H hope you don't mind me asking I see you ordered a controller from a seller in Germany on Ebay. Would you mind if i ask how the sale went?
I need a controller and that looks like my only option.

Thanks