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Title: What fuel?
Post by: alexmccabe on February 08, 2013, 07:11:58 pm
Okay, this has probably been discussed a million times, but searching I couldn't find anything...

I need to go fill up, but before I do, is it worth spending the extra 5p / litre on the premium fuel from Tesco, or the extra 8p / litre for BP or 9p / litre for Shell? This is based on my local Tesco's current standard fuel price. I have a MK5 GTi. I am more concerned about economy than 'go' in this case.

Thanks
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Baz300 on February 08, 2013, 07:14:13 pm
When you open your fuel cap what minimum  RON does it tell you to use?
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Top Cat on February 08, 2013, 07:15:01 pm
If you want economy put the cheap stuff in, your car will be fine.  :happy2:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: alexmccabe on February 08, 2013, 07:20:34 pm
If you want economy put the cheap stuff in, your car will be fine.  :happy2:

Oh, I know. I was just curious as to whether I would get better MPG from spending that little more. Short on cash this month after the purchase of the car so I can't really do the experiments with the fuel and was hoping someone who has could help out =]
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Greeners on February 08, 2013, 07:43:40 pm
I'd say the opposite, if you want economy use the higher octane stuff. My car has always run better and been more efficient oh 99ron fuel.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Top Cat on February 08, 2013, 07:57:20 pm
But will it be 5p litre more efficient.  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Hedge on February 08, 2013, 08:01:43 pm
For £2.50 on a tankfull I say go for the good stuff.  :wink:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: gigolo456 on February 08, 2013, 08:10:21 pm
Plse tell me you didn't buy a GTi for fuel economy?? Heh don't forget the Shell Rewards Card!  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: homesqueeze on February 08, 2013, 08:13:48 pm
I'd agree on the high octane. Shell V-Power or Tesco Super. Definately get more MPG to make up for the extra price, probably just about evens it out. You also get cleaning additives etc in it for your money.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: rf860 on February 08, 2013, 08:26:03 pm
I just got my GTi ED30 too. I'm on my second tank, first tank got 380 miles with a few hard blasts in between. This tank i'm just about to finish and will get approx 410 miles, have a quick blast (nothing crazy) most days too. I think this is excellent economy for such a car like this.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: scottm72 on February 08, 2013, 08:56:54 pm
I just got my GTi ED30 too. I'm on my second tank, first tank got 380 miles with a few hard blasts in between. This tank i'm just about to finish and will get approx 410 miles, have a quick blast (nothing crazy) most days too. I think this is excellent economy for such a car like this.
that's more than im getting, prob averaging around 320 per tank, well until light comes on i should say,
is your figures until the tank is empty or until the fuel light comes on ?

as hedge says an extra £2.50 for a cleaner higher octane fuel that probably evens out your mpg anyway makes all the sense
 :happy2:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: scottm72 on February 08, 2013, 09:00:55 pm
Plse tell me you didn't buy a GTi for fuel economy?? Heh don't forget the Shell Rewards Card!  :evilgrin:
yeah after about 100,000 miles you get a fiver  :confused:
stupid useless card
always use the tesco clubcard, usually get about £30 or so off vouchers every 3 months ( that's shopping to though ) then convert them to 4 times their value if you choose a restaurant from their rewards catalogue, so £30 becomes £120, then treat the wife to a meal  :happy2:
only terms and conditions are that it doesnt cover drink, good deal
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: ReeceH13 on February 08, 2013, 09:06:49 pm
I noticed after putting V-Power in my car, I got better MPG and have done since. I thought it takes a tank-full or two to reap the benefits though? Or is that the performance benefits.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: greygti on February 08, 2013, 09:07:21 pm
Don't put sh*te fuel in a hot hatch, vpower all the way mate
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: prp74 on February 08, 2013, 09:54:29 pm
Don't put sh*te fuel in a hot hatch, vpower all the way mate

X2
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Conrad on February 08, 2013, 10:16:18 pm
V power get my vote wouldn't use anything else!
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Nodz on February 08, 2013, 10:27:46 pm
Normally use shell v power or tesco momentum. If I'm desperate I use anyone else's premium unleaded. As said above when you actually work out how much more 5p/l is per tank it isn't a lot at all
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: rf860 on February 08, 2013, 10:34:09 pm
I just got my GTi ED30 too. I'm on my second tank, first tank got 380 miles with a few hard blasts in between. This tank i'm just about to finish and will get approx 410 miles, have a quick blast (nothing crazy) most days too. I think this is excellent economy for such a car like this.
that's more than im getting, prob averaging around 320 per tank, well until light comes on i should say,
is your figures until the tank is empty or until the fuel light comes on ?

as hedge says an extra £2.50 for a cleaner higher octane fuel that probably evens out your mpg anyway makes all the sense
 :happy2:

Tank empty figures. Ran a friend to a night out tonight and had to do a lot of low speed/stop start driving, fuel light came on at 370 miles. Got 400 out tank, will have to fill up tomorrow, only 5 miles left now.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: alexmccabe on February 08, 2013, 11:36:38 pm
Plse tell me you didn't buy a GTi for fuel economy?? Heh don't forget the Shell Rewards Card!  :evilgrin:

Oh god no, and I won't care soon, just things are a bit tight this month... haha
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: alexmccabe on February 08, 2013, 11:41:59 pm
Right, after all this I will put the higher price stuff in it. I compromised and put normal BP fuel in it for now. Cheaper than Ultimate, but better quality fuel than Tesco. Next week when I get paid it will be high-quality all the way.

Thanks guys!  :driver:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Upperoilcan on February 09, 2013, 07:05:01 am
V power get my vote wouldn't use anything else!

This.

My car is mapped so the cheaper stuff wont do.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Sel on February 10, 2013, 01:57:25 pm
I tend to alternate between 1 lot of Tesco Momentum 99 (it's only 5p more than Tesco standard) and Shell V Power (10p more than Shell standard) But in the past I have always avoided supermarket fuel, but reading posts on here people say its fine, but it still feels alien to put Tesco in.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: alexmccabe on February 10, 2013, 03:53:22 pm
I tend to alternate between 1 lot of Tesco Momentum 99 (it's only 5p more than Tesco standard) and Shell V Power (10p more than Shell standard) But in the past I have always avoided supermarket fuel, but reading posts on here people say its fine, but it still feels alien to put Tesco in.

It's probably just hearsay, but I heard that supermarkets can sell their fules cheaper because they get the fuel close to the end of it's shelf-life.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Sel on February 10, 2013, 06:15:26 pm
Apparently Tesco 99 is made specially for them by an outside company, so might be decent, they even sponsor BTCC team MG who Jason Plato drives for.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: zooms3 on February 10, 2013, 06:38:48 pm
Anything High Octane.

I tend to stay away from the normal 95 stuff, tends to cause misfires and I've got this thing in my head where if something costs more....its generally better.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: dmac1969 on February 10, 2013, 06:44:10 pm
Shell V Power or Tesco Momentum 99 for me.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: jbc on February 10, 2013, 06:50:57 pm
I used asda 95 octane for a year or so before I joined this forum and learnt the error of my ways. The car should run fine on 95 as the engine compensates but it's not the recommended fuel to use. When I switched to v power the mpg improved by 2, which I calculated was about the same as the extra cost - so £ per mile was the same. If you're going to put premium fuel in then v power or tesco is best as they are 99ron, BP is only 97ron (hence why you've seen it's cheaper).
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: homesqueeze on February 10, 2013, 06:59:44 pm
VW actually recommend 98 or higher for the gti. My fuel flap info says 98 as the preference and 95 as the second choice. I have heard more than once that long term use of regular unleaded can cause head gasket problems on the gti.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Duke on February 10, 2013, 07:05:06 pm
98/99 ron all the way  :happy2:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: oak_grun on February 10, 2013, 07:17:51 pm
Shell V Power every time! :happy2:

Have owned my Edition 30 for few months and there Is only one Shell petrol station located on the opposite side of he city, but I would never substitute the fuel that goes in for cheap fuel!  :driver:

Cheers
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Unicorn on February 10, 2013, 10:26:16 pm
I nearly always map on Tesco Momentum or Shell V power.  There is no real difference between them in practise.

Rick
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: alexmccabe on February 11, 2013, 01:50:06 pm
I think this is damn clearcut now. Tesco 99 it is for me. The only Shell I have is on an Expressway so the price of the fuel is inflated more than it should be. I'll report back if I notice any changes in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: AaronMc on February 11, 2013, 05:48:38 pm
Only ever run mine on Tesco Momentum!
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: RENNTAG on February 11, 2013, 05:57:10 pm
I used to run on shell v-power all the time but have now started using momentum 99.

I find the car is running better on the momentum 99.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Tortaruga on February 11, 2013, 06:15:06 pm
A mate at work recently put 20 squid of diesel into his petrol Octavia. He just thought it was 'a bit odd' that the nozzle didn't really fit into the tank.  :stupid:
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: RENNTAG on February 11, 2013, 06:23:54 pm
A mate at work recently put 20 squid of diesel into his petrol Octavia. He just thought it was 'a bit odd' that the nozzle didn't really fit into the tank.  :stupid:

Doh!
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: adminkatana on February 11, 2013, 09:06:02 pm
I thought it was almost impossible to fill a Petrol car with Diesel due to the Diesel Nozzle being too big?
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: Tortaruga on February 11, 2013, 10:37:05 pm
^^^Well he managed it somehow. Idiot.
Title: Re: What fuel?
Post by: RedRobin on February 12, 2013, 09:53:27 am

I tend to alternate between 1 lot of Tesco Momentum 99 (it's only 5p more than Tesco standard) and Shell V Power (10p more than Shell standard) But in the past I have always avoided supermarket fuel, but reading posts on here people say its fine, but it still feels alien to put Tesco in.


....Volkswagen recommend the higher octane fuels (such as V-Power and Momentum) for the 2.0T FSI engine - They state so on the fuel flap and also in the Handbook. Although the engine will run on 'lesser' fuels it's not doing it any favours and in my opinion is a false economy in the longer term. Also, if tuning, most remaps assume V-Power or similar.


Apparently Tesco 99 is made specially for them by an outside company, so might be decent, they even sponsor BTCC team MG who Jason Plato drives for.


....The concensus of opinion, including more scientific published tests, is that Momentum 99 is a good alternative to V-Power. Sponsorship is all about marketing and getting the financial support from anywhere and everywhere they can but we must assume that Plato's team cars actually do run on Momentum.

For historical family loyalty reasons I favour Shell and therefore V-Power and my car is tuned for it but I am happy to use Momentum 99 when industrial disputes get in the way of supply.

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