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Title: De-badging?
Post by: craig_GTI on February 16, 2013, 12:10:16 am
Alright peeps :)

Got a dilemma on my hands, just ordered my self one of these flush grommets to de-wiper the rear and was thinkin to tidy up the rear a little more was the get rid of the GTI badge.. What are people's thoughts on this? Anyone done it? Pics?

Thanks, Craig.

This is the grommet, never seen these before, always just used the black raised ones..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi271.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj134%2Fcraig_vts%2F0037887F-DC9D-4443-84AF-C68F75B02822-16888-0000119292EC948D.jpg&hash=ca1febb558c71d33e6fd0f1a782bed8cdef3b489)
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: Matto on February 16, 2013, 12:19:38 am
I do agree de-badging does tidy up the rear. Here is mine.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2F1003%2FMatt.H%2FInternet%2FIMG_4159.jpg&hash=4624a7e89075ba12ba44a1e0bc34285266d30501)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2F1003%2FMatt.H%2FInternet%2F13.jpg&hash=950059ce181e5df4caf93ba42324a98b048f7369)
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: RedRobin on February 16, 2013, 12:25:22 am
Alright peeps :)

Got a dilemma on my hands, just ordered my self one of these flush grommets to de-wiper the rear and was thinkin to tidy up the rear a little more was the get rid of the GTI badge.. What are people's thoughts on this? Anyone done it? Pics?

Thanks, Craig.


....Hi Craig,

I think you've gotta do whatever you like best. You'll probably find that some folks like de-badging and others don't like it and neither are right or wrong - It's a personal preference thing.

Personally, as you are asking people, unless you are running a full-on race car I think it's actually stupid to get rid of the rear wiper on a hatchback because it will reduce your visibility.

Also, personally I think that the GTI badge has a lot of heritage and is something to be proud of. The same applies to the VW badges. But each to their own.  :smiley:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: craig_GTI on February 16, 2013, 12:27:03 am
Looks good  :happy2: very shiny  :drool:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: sub39h on February 16, 2013, 07:18:44 am
Also, personally I think that the GTI badge has a lot of heritage and is something to be proud of. The same applies to the VW badges. But each to their own.  :smiley:

not sure Nazi history is something to be proud of!

but I agree with RR, it's a personal preference thing, and it is car dependent as well. the GTI badge is subtle and cool
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: sanj on February 16, 2013, 08:16:39 am
Alright peeps :)

Got a dilemma on my hands, just ordered my self one of these flush grommets to de-wiper the rear and was thinkin to tidy up the rear a little more was the get rid of the GTI badge.. What are people's thoughts on this? Anyone done it? Pics?

Thanks, Craig.


....Hi Craig,

I think you've gotta do whatever you like best. You'll probably find that some folks like de-badging and others don't like it and neither are right or wrong - It's a personal preference thing.

Personally, as you are asking people, unless you are running a full-on race car I think it's actually stupid to get rid of the rear wiper on a hatchback because it will reduce your visibility.

Also, personally I think that the GTI badge has a lot of heritage and is something to be proud of. The same applies to the VW badges. But each to their own.  :smiley:

Nuff said! :smiley:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: Matto on February 16, 2013, 08:18:19 am
Yeah the GTI badge isn't bad looking. Nice and discreet. Mine had Golf one side and 2.0 TDI the other which I did think looked quite messy. Why it never got badged as a GTD I don't know.
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: RedRobin on February 16, 2013, 08:18:49 am

Also, personally I think that the GTI badge has a lot of heritage and is something to be proud of. The same applies to the VW badges. But each to their own.  :smiley:


not sure Nazi history is something to be proud of!

but I agree with RR, it's a personal preference thing, and it is car dependent as well. the GTI badge is subtle and cool


....I think that if you felt that strongly about Hitler being responsible for being the midwife of Ferdinand Porsche's birth of the Volks Wagen, then you wouldn't buy a Volkswagen or even possibly anything made in Germany at all.

In WWII my English father fought Rommel in North Africa.... Then fought in Sicily and Italy, ending in the liberation of Greece where he met my Greek mother. Greece had been under Nazi occupation for several years and in fact my mother's uncle was shot by a Nazi firing squad for collaborating. So, you could easily forgive my parents for being anti German - But they weren't, and they had several Volkswagens: A white Mk1, a Camper, and a red Mk1 Scirocco (all lefthand drive because they lived in Europe). My father had seen and experienced first hand in WWII how good German engineering was!!

One of my close friends is Bavarian and her father was one of Mr Hitler's drivers during WWII - That doesn't make her a Nazi. She drives a BMW Mini Cooper S and lives in England.

But we agree with each other about the GTI badge subtlety and about ETTO  :happy2:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: gulfstream11 on February 16, 2013, 08:44:16 am
I would,nt do it for the reasons RR said but do admire the look.. Does that make sense?.As for the heritage quote.I wear a Hugo Boss suit and he designed the SS uniform.. :scared:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: MC71 on February 16, 2013, 10:13:04 am
Alright peeps :)

Got a dilemma on my hands, just ordered my self one of these flush grommets to de-wiper the rear and was thinkin to tidy up the rear a little more was the get rid of the GTI badge.. What are people's thoughts on this? Anyone done it? Pics?

Thanks, Craig.

If your going for the "clean" look then yes, de badge your GTI, will look good. Have seen a few of the glass inserts and they are very good, not my sort of thing but goes to the whole look so go for it.

Being a chavy SOD I've added bling to the back of mine with new GTI Badge, Edition 30 badge and a Rabbit.  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: divweir on February 16, 2013, 10:15:29 am
Keep it on
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: RedRobin on February 16, 2013, 12:21:55 pm

I would,nt do it for the reasons RR said but do admire the look.. Does that make sense?.As for the heritage quote.I wear a Hugo Boss suit and he designed the SS uniform.. :scared:


....The SS and Nazi identity is enormously impressive from a corporate identity point of view and extended to many things including architecture. It's only people's associations with the horrors that followed in the death camps etc which make the Nazi identity so repulsive to many. Anyway, they were not the first or last people to behave so murderously and the Jews/Israelis aren't so squeaky clean either. It's the worst side of 'humanity' regardless of race or nation.

Some folks go as far as acknowledging VW's WWII heritage...........

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FDetailing%2FStickers%2FDubEagle.jpg&hash=8eddea6996c1f16406e74c43645d52285076b72b)

^ On a nicely turned out VeeDub at a meet.

Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: rich83 on February 16, 2013, 12:23:57 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8192%2F8444942122_67ddcfd3e1_b.jpg&hash=e757b914c2700d70cd80acc1b6369812d26cdab2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richwigley/8444942122/)
Shes still got it! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richwigley/8444942122/) by Rich Wigley (http://www.flickr.com/people/richwigley/), on Flickr

 :innocent:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: homesqueeze on February 16, 2013, 04:15:34 pm
Alright peeps :)

Got a dilemma on my hands, just ordered my self one of these flush grommets to de-wiper the rear and was thinkin to tidy up the rear a little more was the get rid of the GTI badge.. What are people's thoughts on this? Anyone done it? Pics?

Thanks, Craig.

If your going for the "clean" look then yes, de badge your GTI, will look good. Have seen a few of the glass inserts and they are very good, not my sort of thing but goes to the whole look so go for it.

Being a chavy SOD I've added bling to the back of mine with new GTI Badge, Edition 30 badge and a Rabbit.  :jumpmove:

Just out of interest, what does the new GTI badge like?
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: MC71 on February 16, 2013, 04:43:38 pm
^^^^
 exactly the same as the previous one, slightly curved, same size and very VERY shlny. IIRC it's the same P/N for the Mk5 and Mk6 GTI badge, 1K0 853 675 N 739.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmcaborn%2FMy_car%2F67b35e6312a70f9e12c342dd07d95680.jpg&hash=4f41462bad83797a23fc5f537bcacb30dfae64a1)
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: gazon69 on February 16, 2013, 05:11:39 pm
Mine
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx463%2Fgazon69%2F20130216_170723.jpg&hash=04024f39f2ec89aebb695610ad2717867acb0be4)
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: gobbleplease on February 16, 2013, 05:51:04 pm
Here's mine

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo147%2Freidtastic%2FUntitled-3.jpg&hash=894ab1415751a516d8a61e38b519aba3b80dbf90)
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: RedRobin on February 16, 2013, 06:16:55 pm
.
And here's mine, proudly badged..........

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_rearSept10.jpg&hash=91a72f9f5c5e9e0686a26b85a18ac3896f6e2ff2)
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: gazon69 on February 16, 2013, 06:28:13 pm
Mine
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx463%2Fgazon69%2F20130216_170723.jpg&hash=04024f39f2ec89aebb695610ad2717867acb0be4)
i only removed my gti badge because i dont think it looked right with my black vw badge. I did do it in black bit i looked crap so took it off. After seeing yours though robin i think min e may make a return
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: Tortaruga on February 16, 2013, 06:57:55 pm
I don't like how parking sensors affect the rear.
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: RedRobin on February 16, 2013, 07:31:31 pm

I don't like how parking sensors affect the rear.


....I didn't order the reversing sensors on my car originally and so they were fitted aftermarket by my VW dealer and were considerably cheaper in black. As you can tell by my 'temporary' (now over 2 years!) tail lights mix, I'm not too fussed about such things. In fact, with my ceramic black quad exhaust tips and carbon VW badge it all seems to sit together okay to me.
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: MightyMullet on February 16, 2013, 07:57:44 pm
I don't like how parking sensors affect the rear.

They are normally colour coded tbf :smiley:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FM1ghtyMullet%2FMk5_GTi%2F25193be10f097ae1c49090d1b9b8c4d7.jpg&hash=ffb1b704596973d7bb92d6dd8e0f35d2b505f4b4)
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: homesqueeze on February 16, 2013, 10:12:24 pm
^^^^
 exactly the same as the previous one, slightly curved, same size and very VERY shlny. IIRC it's the same P/N for the Mk5 and Mk6 GTI badge, 1K0 853 675 N 739.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmcaborn%2FMy_car%2F67b35e6312a70f9e12c342dd07d95680.jpg&hash=4f41462bad83797a23fc5f537bcacb30dfae64a1)

That's what I've got then. They put new letters on when I had just my boot rust fixed and I thought they looked a bit different.
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: homesqueeze on February 16, 2013, 10:14:12 pm
I don't like how parking sensors affect the rear.

Yeah never liked them either. Never needed them to be honest.
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: Tortaruga on February 17, 2013, 02:23:30 am
Even colour coded they look miserable.

However they look better than a dented rear for those lacking spatial awareness.
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: RedRobin on February 17, 2013, 09:58:01 am

Even colour coded they look miserable.


....Which in my opinion regarding my own car is a good reason to be upfront about them and visually express them by having them black.



However they look better than a dented rear for those lacking spatial awareness.


....In the real world there are so many instances and circumstances when having alert beeps can save potential damage from such obstructions as high pavement edges and bollards etc which are below rearwards eye-level. They are particularly helpful in protecting a lowered car.

I didn't tick the option when I ordered my GTI from Wolfsburg but soon found that they were going to be useful. But fortunately for those with spatial awareness superpowers they were an optional choice.

I always prefer to reverse into any parking spot.  :happy2:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: Tortaruga on February 17, 2013, 11:49:06 am
potential damage from such obstructions as high pavement edges...They are particularly helpful in protecting a lowered car.
That's an interesting point. Usually when parking against a kerb I drive until I feel the tyres nudge the kerb so that the nose or rear overhangs the pavement. My car isn't lowered, but I do wonder if it was would I be unable to park in the manner I'm accustomed to. Is this what you lowered folk have to deal with? If so it sounds fairly impractical. :confused:
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: RedRobin on February 17, 2013, 12:18:43 pm

potential damage from such obstructions as high pavement edges...They are particularly helpful in protecting a lowered car.


That's an interesting point. Usually when parking against a kerb I drive until I feel the tyres nudge the kerb so that the nose or rear overhangs the pavement. My car isn't lowered, but I do wonder if it was would I be unable to park in the manner I'm accustomed to. Is this what you lowered folk have to deal with? If so it sounds fairly impractical. :confused:


....Indeed it is what we have to deal with and IMO worth the compromise for what a great handling setup (more than just lowering a car) brings to the joy of driving. I don't go into multi storey car parks with ramps either.

In my case I need to protect a real carbonfibre exhaust trim around custom black ceramic quad tips < It costs a lot of money to look this cheap!

Btw, at the risk of sounding pedantic, I don't think it's technically legal to park so that any part of your vehicle overhangs, and therefore can be termed as obstructs, a pedestrian pavement. I'm not trying to get at you but personally I don't think it's a good practice. [I've probably been spending too much time recently chatting to high flying lawyers!]
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: Scrubadub on February 17, 2013, 02:16:16 pm
Mine
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F02%2F17%2Fuda8y6uj.jpg&hash=a5387eeb3d317b14492797bef4a89b614c87baa6)

Tempted to loose the rear wiper and get rain-x
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: andybon on February 17, 2013, 05:13:22 pm
I always de badge my cars, Makes the rear end look cleaner.

Only badge I leave on is the centre badge, Not easy to remove on the golf with it been a boot handle.
Title: Re: De-badging?
Post by: sub39h on February 18, 2013, 11:22:53 am

Also, personally I think that the GTI badge has a lot of heritage and is something to be proud of. The same applies to the VW badges. But each to their own.  :smiley:


not sure Nazi history is something to be proud of!

but I agree with RR, it's a personal preference thing, and it is car dependent as well. the GTI badge is subtle and cool


....I think that if you felt that strongly about Hitler being responsible for being the midwife of Ferdinand Porsche's birth of the Volks Wagen, then you wouldn't buy a Volkswagen or even possibly anything made in Germany at all.

In WWII my English father fought Rommel in North Africa.... Then fought in Sicily and Italy, ending in the liberation of Greece where he met my Greek mother. Greece had been under Nazi occupation for several years and in fact my mother's uncle was shot by a Nazi firing squad for collaborating. So, you could easily forgive my parents for being anti German - But they weren't, and they had several Volkswagens: A white Mk1, a Camper, and a red Mk1 Scirocco (all lefthand drive because they lived in Europe). My father had seen and experienced first hand in WWII how good German engineering was!!

One of my close friends is Bavarian and her father was one of Mr Hitler's drivers during WWII - That doesn't make her a Nazi. She drives a BMW Mini Cooper S and lives in England.

But we agree with each other about the GTI badge subtlety and about ETTO  :happy2:

wasn't an entirely serious comment RR, and like another member who has posted all my suits are made by Hugo Boss too and i am well aware of their company history.