MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Spadds on February 19, 2013, 01:47:53 pm

Title: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Spadds on February 19, 2013, 01:47:53 pm
Anyone fitted one of these at all?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200894156877?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661

I'm not in the need for a new exhaust yet, and don't 'want to splash £500-600 on a new one until I have to, so I was looking at this to see if it would a)look a bit better, and b) produce a little more feedback from the engine?

I'm assuming you just bolt/clamp it on to OEM system.  I'm not sure if it's useable with other SS manufacturers parts if I were to upgrade rest of system at a later date?

Comments welcomed!

spadds

Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: majinvash on February 19, 2013, 02:41:00 pm
Interested in the answer to this too. I saw the same link and am very tempted to get one too!
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Spadds on February 19, 2013, 03:49:45 pm
I emailed the ebay seller for more info, very quick response recieved.

Basically the b.box delete is with a 2.5" dia pipe which is fine with the stock exhaust.

If you want to use blueflame products in the future, then you'd need to buy a whole new CAT back system as this would be in 3" dia pipework only.

So two options.  Delete pre CAT and add the b.box delete section and keep OEM exhaust,  :wink: OR

A brand new 3" shiny CAT back system!!!!!!! :party: :congrats:
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Baz300 on February 19, 2013, 05:45:16 pm
I think you would have to cut your standard exhaust to fit that as the standard one is one piece from the center of the car back.
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Spadds on February 19, 2013, 06:26:40 pm
I think you would have to cut your standard exhaust to fit that as the standard one is one piece from the center of the car back.

The supplier said it would fit straight on.... If I had to do any mods I wouldn't buy it.  I'm not sure what the patterns are for the OEM exhaust, can anyone confirm if it would need modding?
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 19, 2013, 06:30:51 pm
The back box delete booms like hell  :sick:

Your best saving for a proper cat back  :happy2:
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Baz300 on February 19, 2013, 06:31:47 pm
If you look at this exhaust
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-MK5-MKV-2-0-GTI-Complete-Exhaust-System-/251224511399?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a7e25d3a7

The standard gti exhaust is only 2 pieces, any cat back system will replace only the rear half.

And blueflame do not call it a cat back just suitcase delete, I think you need to cut the standard exhaust just before the rear silencer to fit it.
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Baz300 on February 19, 2013, 06:33:26 pm
Read this post

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,47310.0.html
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Spadds on February 21, 2013, 10:14:45 pm
Wow, thanks! :scared:  Glad I didn't buy it.  I think manufacturers should clearly state that mods are required when fitting such kit, or make it so it fits straight in.  I remember buying a front strut brace for an old mk2 gti, and you had to drill and bolt it to the front strut mounts/bulk head...... No chance! :stupid:

Back to the search for a nice exhaust then.............

Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: majinvash on February 22, 2013, 02:33:00 pm
I messaged Blueflame direct a few months back, just found the email.

Hi Matt,
Is your vehicle fitted with a std system or is the other part Blueflame?.
If the other part of the exhaust is std you need to buy a cat back system with the oem adaptor.(can give you a good price).
If blueflame no problem fitting.
Delivery 7/10 days
Best regards
Warren Simmons

Looks like there could be an adaptor to just use the Catback without having to hack anything.
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Baz300 on February 22, 2013, 05:21:09 pm
I messaged Blueflame direct a few months back, just found the email.

Hi Matt,
Is your vehicle fitted with a std system or is the other part Blueflame?.
If the other part of the exhaust is std you need to buy a cat back system with the oem adaptor.(can give you a good price).
If blueflame no problem fitting.
Delivery 7/10 days
Best regards
Warren Simmons

Looks like there could be an adaptor to just use the Catback without having to hack anything.

If you buy a cat back from them then it is just an adaptor to reduce the diameter of the pipe to fit the standard front pipe.

The suitcase delete is just a replacement for the backbox so cutting is required.

I think a cat back is around £400-£500 compared to the low price of the suitcase delete.
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: sub39h on February 22, 2013, 06:45:38 pm
i have a full BlueFlame system. mine has a middle resonator but the suitcase delete and it sounds great to me. i would not recommend having a suitcase delete AND the middle res taken out tho
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: gobbleplease on February 23, 2013, 10:00:36 am
I had one one, it sounded good deffo one of the better sounding mk5 systems.
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: adamfbb on February 23, 2013, 06:01:29 pm
Fitted one a few weeks ago, does require cutting the suitcase out.
Sounds a lot nicer than standard certainly turns a few heads now! :driver:
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: islander on February 24, 2013, 10:22:08 am
I put a system on yesterday from the rear beam back.
The pipe work is smaller at 2.25 inch but the stepping has actually give a lot more torque lower down!
The system had just the silencer and no suitcase rearbox it sounds like a jet!
Would defiantly recommend it to anyone.
Will post a video at some point.

Max
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Spadds on February 24, 2013, 04:12:44 pm
I put a system on yesterday from the rear beam back.
The pipe work is smaller at 2.25 inch but the stepping has actually give a lot more torque lower down!
The system had just the silencer and no suitcase rearbox it sounds like a jet!
Would defiantly recommend it to anyone.
Will post a video at some point.

Max

Max it will be interesting to see the unit installed.  Can I ask how much and from where you got it pls?
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: islander on February 24, 2013, 06:54:06 pm
I put a system on yesterday from the rear beam back.
The pipe work is smaller at 2.25 inch but the stepping has actually give a lot more torque lower down!
The system had just the silencer and no suitcase rearbox it sounds like a jet!
Would defiantly recommend it to anyone.
Will post a video at some point.

Max

Max it will be interesting to see the unit installed.  Can I ask how much and from where you got it pls?



The exhaust was made by Hayward and Scott as far as I know I brought it from another edition 30 owner!
Will post some pics and videos once I get some :)
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: woodzrs on March 02, 2013, 09:04:15 pm
What's the "delete" and "suitcase" ? I'm new to the vw world so just wondered ? I'm after a new exhaust as well
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: islander on April 16, 2013, 09:49:59 am
I put a system on yesterday from the rear beam back.
The pipe work is smaller at 2.25 inch but the stepping has actually give a lot more torque lower down!
The system had just the silencer and no suitcase rearbox it sounds like a jet!
Would defiantly recommend it to anyone.
Will post a video at some point.

Max

Max it will be interesting to see the unit installed.  Can I ask how much and from where you got it pls?


Here a quick video for your managed to get one the other day sorry its taken so long!

Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Dan.b on April 16, 2013, 11:41:27 am
That's loud!

Is that just a suitcase delete?
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: cleanme on April 16, 2013, 11:55:38 am
Sounds mad, bet your neighbours love you :signLOL:
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: islander on April 16, 2013, 12:20:19 pm
That's loud!

Is that just a suitcase delete?

Its only that loud on full boost so normal driving it sounds like standard.
this is a cat back but yes it is basically just removing the rear box but it is slightly smaller than standard pipe work.

Sounds mad, bet your neighbours love you :signLOL:

haha its ok when driving normally  :driver:
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: Dan.b on April 19, 2013, 11:10:13 pm
Have you still got middle silencer?
Title: Re: Blue Flame back box delete exhaust - Vroom or not?!
Post by: islander on April 20, 2013, 12:27:16 pm
Have you still got middle silencer?
yep  :P