MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: bushypad on February 20, 2013, 10:15:23 am
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Currently own a Mk5 gti stage 1 and thinking about going for an e46 m3 does anyone here have any experience moving from a gti to an m3 just interested!
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Can't help but shouldn't this be in the random chat forum??
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Having had one myself - I think you'll find the novelty will ware off pretty quick (interior is quite dated) - especially when you start to monitor your fuel bill - sport button was quite neat though :grin:
Cheers
Nige
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Have to admit...the M3 is a great bit of machinery....the in-line 6 has power all the way through the band...the car just seems to keep going and going. you obviously don't get the turbo kick at a certain rev....the power kicks from the moment you put your foot down.
Agree with the above about the interior being pretty dated...probably the biggest let down of the car is the dash plastics. there is a lot of fun to be had with getting that rear end out and back in again.
The fuel bills coupled with the need for new rear tyres every so often + the added M3 servicing charges don't really make it a cost effective car...but then...it is an M3!
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My girlfriends brother has one. Drinks like a fish - compared to his MK5 R32 :grin:
Service and maintenance is expensive and in all honesty you can modify a mk5 GTI to be quicker if the speed is what you want :happy2:
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And by the same token you can modify an M3 - where does it end?
A M3 is an outstanding car, it's also old. If you can get past the obvious dated interior, you'll find a massively rewarding drive that'll still out handle most things on the road. Until you run out of fuel.
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So the collected response is great car but drinks too much fuel, i guess i could mod the gti but its that straight six m3 noise that gets me especially when the top is down! Guess i'll have to take into account all the maintenance costs but i've so far been very happy with my gti! Lets see when summer comes around i may just bite the bullet!
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Also does anyone have any ideas on any other cars i just want something with more power, and some real grunt in the engine a noise thats gunna put a smile on my face :signLOL:
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A TVR! :driver:
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Audi rs6 or 4
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Mmm V8 RS6. :drool:
Running costs that are natures way of telling you that you have too much money.
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I find the rs4 is a great car but just doesn't seem to have a soul?! am i the only one who thinks this? i just dont feel as connected to the car maybe because its 4wd and feels too safe i dont know?! i prefer thrills :laugh:
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Do you want a convertible? 350Zs are good value. As are Boxsters...
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I worked for bmw and drove one too wales and having a stage 2+ the difference between my Eddie and the M3 was night and day, power wise the golf was another level as expected, interior was tacky, sounded good and handled well and did look great and had a good Harmon kardon system but felt dated for a 55 plate, but maintenance and running cost of it would seem silly to change and shaft myself as I did want one thinking they may be a classic one day like the E30???
they look good tho but costs of them running etc dont make it worth it in my point of view, however its one of those I want just to have one :signLOL:
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I had a 55reg manual e46m3 a few years ago.. Good car but as mentioned by other members the interior is dated & the satnav is Sh@t with a capital S...performance is so so...you getting a manual or smg mate
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I'm surprised at all the comments about the M3 interior, imo it's leagues ahead of the GTI!
I'm the opposite, in that i've gone from an E46 M3 to a GTI. I owned the M3 for 4 years, and tbh spent a fortune on it. Maintenace wise it was ok, not much went wrong with it apart from general wear and tear items such as bushings and the clutch. The only issue i had was the alternator going. Everything is expensive for it though, from tyres to brakes and general servicing. I tracked mine quite a bit and ended up carrying out alot of upgrades such as Stoptech BBK, Eibach springs, Eisenmann exhaust, OEM CSL parts... the list goes on! By far the best car i've ever owned. Only sold it cause it wasn't being used and seeing as i'm in Ireland it cost a small fortune to tax for a year (€1,560!)
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Any idea of what the running costs are eg minor service, major services, typical price for tyres, brakes etc?
Have always toyed with the idea of one of these.
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Hmm 350z is another I have considered, and yes I want a convertible with preferable in Laguna Seca Blue!
Im wanting a manual as i have heard mixed reviews about the SMG, the only other thing i considered was a ko4 conversion but thats probably gunna cost me 2,000 so may aswell sell up and buy an m3 instead?
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Any idea of what the running costs are eg minor service, major services, typical price for tyres, brakes etc?
Have always toyed with the idea of one of these.
Insp1=Normal oil service is around 150-200,insp2 is around 350-500 depending where you go..
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Myths and legends that the servicing is expensive, particularly at a specialist. Some of the M-specific parts may make your eyes water, but then that's what you get with expensive cars made from bespoke parts. Buy the right car and your worst expense will be the fuel circa low 20s. Cabrios by default will mostly have had an easy life, so less risky.
Dash is dated in that the radio won't look flashy like an RNS510, and the switches aren't all stainless and posh, but it's very well made and very driver focussed.
The rear subframe tearing the boot floor out is what you want to be concerned about. Free fix if it's less than 10 years old and has a BMW service history.
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I'm surprised at all the comments about the M3 interior, imo it's leagues ahead of the GTI!
I'm the opposite, in that i've gone from an E46 M3 to a GTI. I owned the M3 for 4 years, and tbh spent a fortune on it. Maintenace wise it was ok, not much went wrong with it apart from general wear and tear items such as bushings and the clutch. The only issue i had was the alternator going. Everything is expensive for it though, from tyres to brakes and general servicing. I tracked mine quite a bit and ended up carrying out alot of upgrades such as Stoptech BBK, Eibach springs, Eisenmann exhaust, OEM CSL parts... the list goes on! By far the best car i've ever owned. Only sold it cause it wasn't being used and seeing as i'm in Ireland it cost a small fortune to tax for a year (€1,560!)
Agree about the interior, my parents had an 04 plate one in space grey and it was an awesome car! Interior is quite dark, but no hard plastic and very well put together. Dad had an e92 and it wasn't as well made inside as the e46 imo.
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Loved my M, can't say a bad thing about it at all. The fact that it died on me 2 days after I picked it up thanks to the alternator pales into insignificance after having got so much enjoyment out of it. If I could afford to run one properly, I would give up my Jetta tomorrow. That is the sticking point with these cars. You need to maintain them properly as and when required, you can't skimp. If something major goes wrong, expect to pay big money. They can chew through tyres and premium 19's are not cheap. Bank on max 10k a pair on the rear depending on driving style, Fuel economy on mine wasn't bad at all. I was averaging mid to high 20's which is not that far off the Jetta. It is a supercar after all.
The E46 imo was beautifully put together and still the best looking M out there. If you can afford to run it the way it should be run, go for it, you won't regret it.
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I worked for bmw and the parts are expensive but dont buy a performance car if you dont want running costs that cost more than the average car :stupid:
subframe cracks are common...
brakes cost a bomb anywhere you go
inspection 2 is the killer for services but again its gotta be expected for a car like that
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Was the interior of the E46 M3 different to a late E46 Coupe? I had a 2005 325Ci and I thought the interior was lovely - way nicer than in a MK5 GTI.
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I remember reading about the subframe issue I think on m3cutters. I heard it only applied to early e46 M3 cars, or have I been incorrectly informed?
I've always had a soft spot for the E36 and E46 models.
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I keep thinking of getting one an m3 cs have driven a few and they are very nice inside and not dated infact the red leather still is a nice place to sit. They are a bit thirsty not as bad as the rs6 I went to look at and was told by the owner he gets around 12 to 15 mpg :signLOL:
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Was the interior of the E46 M3 different to a late E46 Coupe? I had a 2005 325Ci and I thought the interior was lovely - way nicer than in a MK5 GTI.
Same, but nicer
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Heres a pic of my previous m3s
The e46 m3 is a good car I loved owning mine but my one ended up being very costly to own due to reliability Problems, so I sold it for that reason.
Great engine, handleing and sound nice very roomy interior and a good cruiser loves a drift !
Its not got the kick up the arse a s2+ edition 30 gives you but it's still a great car.
Personally the amount of bills, service costs and petrol it drank ended my love for it, I also preferred my e36 m3 evo I still reccon that's my favourite m3