MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Beeps on February 22, 2013, 08:12:42 pm
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Now I have found out that the poor straight line steering on my Mk V Gti was caused by the soft sidewalls on my Asym 2s ( with Koni FSDs and standard springs), I am thinking of getting some XLs with the stiffer sidewalls.
Any advice out there guys? Anyone running on the XLs? Do they tighten up the steering without bringing the bone shaking back?
Thanks
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I think the XL is the one you should have on the GTI??
Is it 92 or something?
Graeme
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I think the XL is the one you should have on the GTI??
Is it 92 or something?
Graeme
yep i will 2nd that
when i bought my asym 2s i made sure they where xls
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Pretty sure mine are XLs too :happy2:
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225/40/18 XL 92y should be on the GTI
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225/40/18 XL 92y should be on the GTI
yep that's mine also
good - asym 2s xl
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225/40/18 XL 92y should be on the GTI
:happy2: Thats right
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Sorry I forgot to mention I am on 17" wheels and my only options are the 91Y or the 94XL
I wondered if anyone was running the 94XL or whether I needed to change to Pirelli or Michellin to get rid of the wandering all over the road caused by the soft sidewalls of the 91Y
Having read all the rave reviews I was expecting much more from the Asyms, so maybe it is the combination of the FSDs, standard springs and the soft walls on the 17" that does not work properly
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I have the 94XL's on my 17's - feels good to me.
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Thanks Tortaruga, are you on standard springs and shocks?
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Should always be XL tyres for the GTI, that is the correct spec.
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Thanks Tortaruga, are you on standard springs and shocks?
Yes.
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Interesting stuff as I need new tyres too, and had pretty much decided on the 91Y F1 Asym 2's.
So is there any noticeable difference in ride quality then between the XL and non-XL tyres?
Also, tyre recommendations always seem to be for 'Y' rated (186mph / 290km/h) tyres, and never the 'W' rated (168mph / 270km/h) options. Is there any reason for that as I'm pretty sure most people won't be topping 168 anyway..... Ahem, or even half that... officer. :innocent:
Rich.
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Yep Richie that is what is what I want to know (to XL or not to XL, that is the question) - if you go to the Goodyear web site or tirerack they state the car was designed for 91w not the XL.
Homesqueeze: I cannot find any reference to the Mk5 Gti DSG being on XL as correct spec with the 17" wheels, only 91W or 91Y - can you post a link please or tell me where to look?
I want a comfortable ride, and wonder if I can reduce the tyre pressures back into normal range with the XLs, but worry the change from 91 to 94 might counteract that - has anyone any experience of both types of tyre on the Asym 2?
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Yep Richie that is what is what I want to know (to XL or not to XL, that is the question) - if you go to the Goodyear web site or tirerack they state the car was designed for 91w not the XL.
Homesqueeze: I cannot find any reference to the Mk5 Gti DSG being on XL as correct spec with the 17" wheels, only 91W or 91Y - can you post a link please or tell me where to look?
I want a comfortable ride, and wonder if I can reduce the tyre pressures back into normal range with the XLs, but worry the change from 91 to 94 might counteract that - has anyone any experience of both types of tyre on the Asym 2?
Sorry, I was talking in reference to 18", so I don't know if it's different for 17"s. I don't have any documentation anyway, it's only what has been told to me and stated on this site several times.
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Wouldn't it be nice if those tyre review sites told you which model of the tyre they were testing - there are two different models of the tyre with different side walls - get it wrong and you have spent a lot of money to get something you were not expecting.
I still cannot decide whether to live with overpressure on the soft walls or go for the XL and hope it doesn't become a bone shaker.
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Wouldn't it be nice if those tyre review sites told you which model of the tyre they were testing - there are two different models of the tyre with different side walls - get it wrong and you have spent a lot of money to get something you were not expecting.
I still cannot decide whether to live with overpressure on the soft walls or go for the XL and hope it doesn't become a bone shaker.
No way i would fit anything but a reinforced tyre,
with reference to what you ask,
overpressure on the sidewalls of a non reinforced tyre would ( although a small percentage ) would increase the possibility of a blowout.
Secondly - if you DID have a blowout, i would rather have it on a tyre with a stronger sidewall as it would decrease the likelyhood of the tyre completelly disintegrating.
I like yourself thought i was going to get a rough ride when i fitted my asym 2 xl (18s) but it was no diff to the miches i had on before which where not xl's.
Also when i changed my summers for 16 inch vredistein snow tyres which are not xl obviouslly i though ah well at least the ride will be softer for the next few months - nope,,, i would actually say it got bumpier :surprised:
From a safety point of view the xl would be the safer tyre but etto :happy2:
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A cheap and quick option would be to look on the filler cap and increase the pressures to the max load figures.
My GTI with 17" should run 91W.
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Yep David I have done that - even with just me in the car I need 2.6 in the rear to stop it drifting around like a blancmange. If I put it up to 2.5 in the fronts it feels like you are on a knife edge - too little and it rear-wheel steers all over the road, too much and it bone-shakes and feels twitchy. This is me in a straight line on a motorway :driver: It is not a relaxing ride!
I was hoping that somewhere out there there would be someone on 17" wheels who could tell me what the Asym 2 xl (94) were like - the car was designed for 91w tyres, but they do not suit the FSd shocks on standard springs. I suspect the soft sidewalls are stopping the clever valve inside the FSDs from working properly.
Anyone on PS3s? They have a harder sidewall I think