MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Track Day Technical => Topic started by: Ducky76 on February 25, 2013, 05:22:49 pm

Title: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Ducky76 on February 25, 2013, 05:22:49 pm
Hi so I looks like I've entered into a race with my mate 1/4 mile at Santa pod stage 2 gti 250 bhp  dsg v 205 stripped out with mi16 187 bhp , I've clocked 14.52 before at York raceway with 19 inch Audi splits heavy wheels so the question is do I run with them or the 18 monzas ie quicker start but more spin ? Or 19 or am I getting my ass kicked either way??
Cheers andy
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Tamiyoman on February 25, 2013, 05:33:19 pm
Think your extra weight might be your downfall, we all know the 205 was made out of papier mache (lightweight) and with that engine I would imagine power to weight will be slightly higher
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: phicksy on February 25, 2013, 08:17:07 pm
A 205 mi16 will probably be running very low 14's, maybe even high 13's with nearly 190bhp. Sorry but I think you're right and you'll be in for an ass kicking!

Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 25, 2013, 09:49:47 pm
Stage 2 DSG GTI should easily be capable of low 14's and possibly breaking into the 13's with the right driver and mods. Definitely bin the 19's though and if you want to get an even better result, go for a set of 18" Team Dynamic Pro Race rims..  :happy2:
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: phicksy on February 25, 2013, 10:00:00 pm
We'll need video's of the big event!  :wink:
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: andyR43 on February 25, 2013, 10:34:48 pm
Put your 18's on and apply some of this to help with wheelspin :-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grip-Tyre-Softener-2-5-Litre-Karting-Pro-Kart-Rotax-Cheapest-on-ebay-UK-ONLY-/321077917088?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item4ac1bc35a0
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Ducky76 on February 25, 2013, 10:39:28 pm
Cool 18 it is then , got another mate with a fiesta and a racing puma engine and gear box thrown in so should be game on deffo filming all the races and outcomes and il post them up on here or on the face book site , the 205 weighs in at 800kg  think gti s 1300kg so hopefully launch control can do the bizz
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Ducky76 on February 25, 2013, 10:49:11 pm
Does the tyre softener permanently affect the tyres of will it just be burnt off ? , dunno if I could use it ide have 2 be covert in using it or he would start bellyaching , he's been moaning about traction control already oven when his aunt a daily or even got carpets or window winders ffs   :stupid:
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Hurdy on February 26, 2013, 05:34:33 pm
A challenge is a challenge regardless of what you have. No-one should moan and both sides should be prepared to do whatever they can to destroy the opposition :evilgrin:

Remove your rear bench & backs, remove the spare wheel and replace with a can of foam, remove the passenger seat and that lot will remove over 60kg from the car. That in itself will give you 0.1-0.2 seconds off the 1/4 mile. :happy2:

Short shifting from 1st to second after using launch control helps stop any wheelspin you may get off the line. Wind out the car in 4th gear to the end of the run as it will also help with your time.

Lower tyre pressure will help reduce wheelspin too, so if you can reduce the pressure down to around 22psi. Even better get some semi-slicks on there.

Always try and do a burnout if you can before a run, it clears the water off the tyres and warms them up a little.

Good luck! :happy2:
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 26, 2013, 08:19:00 pm
Doubt very much he will need to go into 5th anyway John.. 4th is good for over 100mph IIRC..
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Hurdy on February 27, 2013, 09:20:04 am
Doubt very much he will need to go into 5th anyway John.. 4th is good for over 100mph IIRC..

Yes, but you'd be amazed how many still shift early  :driver:
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Ducky76 on February 27, 2013, 01:58:28 pm
Cheers for that il av a couple practices and launch control with quick shift 2 second it is , march 16 RWYB at Santa pod gunna be a few races between my mates we've got gti v 205 mi16 v oval beetle 150 bhp with race gear box  v fiesta/ racing puma  gunna post up when I'm victorious    :laugh:
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 28, 2013, 09:54:18 am
When engaging LC, it is best to back your foot off the throttle a little and bring the res down to around 2k before releasing the brake. If you use the default 3k+ LC when modded you won't go anywhere fast at all..

Agree with what John says about short-sh*ting to 2nd quickly. The car will have the torque to pull the car from lowish revs in 2nd and it's a lot better than using first gear and spinning your cock off..  :grin: This method resulted in my best times, everytime..

Here is a vid of one of my runs @ Pod and if you turn the volume up you can hear my change to 2nd pretty quickly (just after the Christmas tree lights)..

Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: RobH on March 19, 2013, 08:43:24 pm
Scores on the doors then ducky?

Let me guess you need a k04 :laugh:
Title: Re: 1/4 mile duel v mi16
Post by: Ducky76 on March 20, 2013, 10:02:05 am
Didn't happen I'm afraid , his missis was booked in for a c section on the Wednesday so he had his hands full so we have 2 re schedule