MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: mhurley on February 26, 2013, 12:02:29 pm
I'm thinking of an R-Tech stage 1 remap, together with a milltek resonated exhaust.

What BMW would it be comparable to in terms of performance? A 335D?

Thanks
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: JigBake on February 26, 2013, 01:38:48 pm
A remapped K03 GTI wouldnt compare to a 335d. I think that even a stage 1 K04 GTI would struggle to see off a 335d and its huge amounts of torque.
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: mhurley on February 26, 2013, 01:51:47 pm
I thought the 0-60 for a mk5 stage 1 would be around 6 secs (240+ bhp), which is roughly what an 335d does.

Basing on the fact an ED30 is 6.6 secs and has 226 bhp
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: Nafeun on February 26, 2013, 04:36:28 pm
A 335d is quicker. End of. Especially once rolling. A remapped gti Is Comparable to a 330i I would say :)
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: Tamiyoman on February 26, 2013, 04:45:37 pm
FWD 225 tyres getting power down is different to RWD 255 tyres getting power down, plus the BMW has around 390lb/ft std, no chance aginst one

My 330D LCI does 0-60 in 6.2 std and has about 370lb/ft torque

335d' remap 9Stage 1) to around 340bhp
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: GTI5 on February 26, 2013, 05:17:21 pm
Standard 335d is stage 1 Edition 30 pace.

Stage 1 GTI would be similar to a standard 330d lci (245 PS).
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: alackofspeed on February 26, 2013, 05:30:03 pm
A 335d is quicker. End of. Especially once rolling. A remapped gti Is Comparable to a 330i I would say :)

Doubtful on a 1/4 (if that's the frame of reference). With my stg-1 K03 I consistently beat my friend's quite heavily modified (ATB diff is probably all that matters for a 1/4) 130i on numerous 1/4 runs last year at Santa Pod. According to the timing sheet I was managing a fairly consistent 14 seconds dead 1/4 and the 130i was high 14s.
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: 55golf on February 26, 2013, 06:55:47 pm
A 335d could not get near my stage 2 ed30 321bhp and 343lbs.there not that fast
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: Greeners on February 26, 2013, 07:19:44 pm
What does it matter?  :confused:
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 26, 2013, 07:21:17 pm
Dare I even mention an R32 in this thread  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: roughd on February 26, 2013, 07:32:25 pm
For the guys saying ''what does it matter''....bore off

For what it's worth, my bog standard gti was all over a 07 330d in the twistys, when it opened up i was still on his tail at 80/90 then he left me like i was stood still. Those cars are properly quick above the ton mark

I'd say a stage 1 gti circa 250bhp would be around the same as a 335d upto 80/90ish...after that no chance
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: GTI5 on February 26, 2013, 07:42:02 pm
The lighter weight of the GTI will allow it to pull away initially but the higher displacement of the 3.0l will reel in the GTI.

Here is a video, think its been posted before:





Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: JigBake on February 26, 2013, 08:20:28 pm
A stage 2 Edition 30 would win. A stage 1 Edition 30, I wouldnt like to put money on it. Thats my personal opinion. Anyone know anybody with a 335d  :laugh:

Let the race commence!!
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 26, 2013, 08:23:16 pm
335d stage 2 near 400bhp and god knows how much torque they are bloody fast things
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: Spydamanz on February 26, 2013, 10:09:30 pm
Ok i have to say something as my friend had a 335d 57plate and although it had allot of torque its not as fast as you may think over a ko3 gti stage 1 remap.

I had a standard mk5 gti when he had his 335d and in the 80/90 mph mark yes its faster but after i had remaped my gti i think it would of been evan maybe after 130 the bmw will be a car or two ahead. But i never got the chance to compare as he sold the car just before i remaped my golf

I did get to witness him go against my friends 350z 280bhp (on a closed road) and it was evan all the way past 130 mph.  Im sure a  stage 1 ed30 is by far quicker  :smiley:
Title: Re: Stage 1 Mk5 GTI, comparable BMW ?
Post by: 56OctyVRS on February 26, 2013, 10:31:53 pm
Really it doesnt matter which is quicker in a drag race as they are pointless. I doubt there would be very mich difference if you put them together on a nice twisty b road. Real world driving.