MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: zabba on February 28, 2013, 11:42:33 am
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I'm considering selling my Mk5 Gti as I now get the train to work and fancy something a bit more exciting for the weekend. However, I love the Golf as an everyday car. Currently my girlfriend has a company car which costs us £300 a month, its an Audi A1 diesel and averages about 60mpg, but I just don't like driving it as much as the Golf.
The Audi comes up for renewel soon, and I'm tempted to keep the Golf as it's replacement, saving us the £300 a month company car money. But she does 20k miles a year, so I think the fuel costs will almost double. Added to the additional depreciation on the Golf from doing these miles and potential for things to go wrong, do you think keeping the Gti to do 20k a year is a bad decision?
It's a 05 plate with 74k on the clock, full VW history and recent cambelt change. I imagine it's worth just over £6k, but think that would fall quickly once over 100k miles. What other maintenance/repair costs am I likely to have in the next couple of years doing that kind of mileage?
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You will probably lost a few hundered pounds in resale value with the extra mileage - not too bad considering the amount of pleasure you get from it.
I imagine its mainly motorway miles which are easy peasy for cars, very little wear on components etc. Just consider the standard routine maintenance etc and you will be fine. :happy2:
With the mileage you have on it already, bushes, ball joints etc are all getting old (unless you have changed already?), plus it will need another cam belt change soon im guessing?
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i was doing 20k plus in my ed30 just drive it and enjoy it
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i was doing 20k plus in my ed30 just drive it and enjoy it
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Sick of hearing of folk being too scared to drive the car they spend £THOUSANDS on as they dont want to put mileage on it :grin:
Hats off to you sir :happy2:
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KEEP THE GOLF!
I have a 40 mile commute. 80 miles per day, 5 days per week, 48 weeks per year.
19200 miles per year + whatever I add at the weekends.
As Revo says; "GO PLAY"
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A sole purpose for a car is to be driven its why it was made I think some people can afford to buy the cars but can't afford to run em ie fuel and service work as over 20k in fuel cost does mount up to a lot of cash
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If the A1 is £300 month I reckon the golf would save you £50 a month
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If the A1 is £300 month I reckon the golf would save you £50 a month
Possibly, although I think it will be closer to £300 a month with no actual saving, but a much better car to drive. I suspect the Golf will cost £200 a month more than the audi in fuel, leaving £100 to fund insurance/maintenance/tax/depreciation. So providing I don't have any big costs then it won't be much diferent.
It's tempting to keep the Golf, just need to make the man maths work and persuade the GF that she doesn't need a shiny Audi. The other downside of keeping it is that it ties up the cash I was going to put into my weekend car, possibly a 350Z
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With the mileage you have on it already, bushes, ball joints etc are all getting old (unless you have changed already?), plus it will need another cam belt change soon im guessing?
Don't think the bushes etc have been done yet, certainly not in my ownership, but that's only been the last 7 months and 7k miles. It still feels tight to drive but can see that these things might need doing in next 20k. What sort of cost would I be looking at for the bushes/arms etc? cambelt doesn't need changing for another 3 years.
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I do about 20,000 in mine a year.... I don't intend selling it soon so mileage increase doesn't matter to me.
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I personally wouldn't use a Golf to do 20,000 miles a year, not because the added depreciation would worry me, but the cost of fuelling it for motorway usage is daft in comparison to a diesel car.
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i was doing 20k plus in my ed30 just drive it and enjoy it
exactly the same with my A3 2.0T. i bought my car to enjoy it. i could have gotten a diseasel if i wanted but this is more fun.
on the motorways i get 40mpg, which means that considering the diesels command a higher selling price i would have to own the car a long time to make up the difference. (diesel fuel itself is also more expensive to buy in the first place.) you have to consider that if you sell the car now you'll lose money on it, then you'll have to buy a new car and immediately take a hit with depreciation on that car too.
often the cheapest car to own is the one you already have. just drive it more carefully to get better fuel mileage.
just as an example, when financially things were better (and i didn't daftly decide to return to university and move to London) i was looking at A5s brand new. it was a toss up between the 2.0T quattro and the 3.0TDI quattro. they have roughly the same performance but the (on paper) fuel mileage is better in the 3.0TDI. BUT once i sat down and did the maths on my expected mileage, i worked out i'd have to own the 3.0TDI for about 4 years to make up for the increased purchase price and the price of the diesel. on a used car it might not be quite as long a time as the difference in price in absolute terms will probably be lower, but do the maths first before you take the plunge.
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If the A1 is £300 month I reckon the golf would save you £50 a month
Possibly, although I think it will be closer to £300 a month with no actual saving, but a much better car to drive. I suspect the Golf will cost £200 a month more than the audi in fuel, leaving £100 to fund insurance/maintenance/tax/depreciation. So providing I don't have any big costs then it won't be much diferent.
It's tempting to keep the Golf, just need to make the man maths work and persuade the GF that she doesn't need a shiny Audi. The other downside of keeping it is that it ties up the cash I was going to put into my weekend car, possibly a 350Z
Another advantage of running the golf as apposed to getting a company car is, once the company car lease is up, the car goes back and you have nothing to show for the money you've spent leasing it.
Whereas the golf, even with another 40-50k miles on it, its not going to loose more than £2k in value.
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I can't justify Buying, Insuring, Taxing, MOT'ing and maintaining 2 cars!
Then my Golf will be sat at home getting older and depreciating without being used!
As Clarkson said when the MK5 GTI came out: "All things to all men"
I can have fun when I want but can also put the Mountain Bike in the back, do a B&Q run or go camping in the south of France.
My mate didn't have half as much fun in the Alps with his 2.0TDI A4! Ok so he used 3 tanks of fuel to my 6.5 but he was still jealous when we broke off the Toll Road and he couldn't keep up.
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Diesel driving does get rather boring
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Diesel driving does get rather boring
^^^^^ I disagree, diesel or petrol it does depend on what you have done to the car and how you drive it!
I average 20k a year and my diesel bill averages about £300 per month.
My car sits on the motorway for about 60-70 miles Mon-Fri.
Keep the GTi, that way you can have fun in it at the weekends.
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A sole purpose for a car is to be driven its why it was made I think some people can afford to buy the cars but can't afford to run em ie fuel and service work as over 20k in fuel cost does mount up to a lot of cash
QFT.
I opted out of my company car scheme (Took the cash) so I could drive a GTI :signLOL: Sure it's more hassle running your own car but I didn't want to be a member of the Aldi 1.9/2.0 TDI club yet.
The GTI is designed to be an everyday car...
The running costs aren't that bad, the mpg is mediocre and the range can be a bit annoying for longer journeys which is where the TDI shines.
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Diesel driving does get rather boring
Clearly been driving the wrong diesel then! :signLOL:
Mine makes me :smiley:every time
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Keep the Golf as your weekender, and buy something cheap/average for her to all those miles in. :happy2:
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Make my stage2+ edition do 17k a year... :-)
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Diesel driving does get rather boring
Clearly been driving the wrong diesel then! :signLOL:
Mine makes me :smiley:every time
At 70mph on a motorway following a line of cars it doesn't matter what your driving. :grin:
My TDI is very similar to driving a TFSI, immense throttle response and linear power / torque curve. Diesels have really come on a lot. Mine is quieter on idle than a TFSI :grin:
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I have just changed from a BMW 120d m sport coupe to a Edition 30. I do high mileage and it's the best thing i've ever done. So much nicer to driver, actually moves when you put your foot down and sounds decent for a 4 cylinder engine.
Economy, i would say is exceptional for the performance, i always see at least 380 miles from a tank and usually 400, that's mostly sedate driving with some blasts.
I actually look forward to driving to and from work now, whereas before, it was a chore.
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I probably have been driving the wrong one, its more the feel when driving such as the interior and suspension. I take it back! :)
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For a forum called mk5golfgti.co.uk there are a lot of people who seem to be against driving a MK5 Golf GTI!
Am I missing something?
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Keep the Golf as your weekender, and buy something cheap/average for her to all those miles in. :happy2:
Hopefully not upsetting anyone but I don't see my Gti as a weekender car, it's not exciting enough for me. If I keep it, it will be to replace the Audi as GF's commuter car and use as our practical car when space is needed.
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there are a lot of people who seem to be against driving a MK5 Golf GTI!
Am I missing something?
There are a lot of oddball weirdos on this forum. The mods are the real diesel lovers.