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Title: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 02, 2013, 01:02:03 pm: Code: [Select]
TIME Group 3 - Field 1 Group 20 - Field 0 Group 20 - Field 1 Group 20 - Field 2 Group 20 - Field 3 Group 31 - Field 0 Group 31 - Field 1 Group 114 - Field 3 Group 115 - Field 2 Group 115 - Field 3 Group 230 - Field 0 Group 230 - Field 1 STAMP Intake Air Mass Cylinder 1 Ignition - Angle Delay Cylinder 2 Ignition - Angle Delay Cylinder 3 Ignition - Angle Delay Cylinder 4 Ignition - Angle Delay Lambda Sensor - Current Value Lambda Sensor - Specified Value Wastegate (N75) - Duty Cycle Boost Pressure - (specified) Boost Pressure - (actual) Rail Pressure - (specified) Rail Pressure - (actual) g/s °KW °KW °KW °KW % mbar mbar bar bar 0.09 19.78 0 0 0 0 0.98 1 0 700 1080 70.68 70.24 0.42 16.36 0 0 0 0 0.97 1 0 560 1100 76.34 76.6 0.75 7.64 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 320 1100 77.9 77.97 1.06 6.86 0 0 0 0 1.02 1 0 280 1070 76.41 77.07 1.39 6.25 0 0 0 0 1.05 1 0 280 1050 75.25 74.23 1.71 21.11 0 0 0 0 0.94 1 32.2 1000 1040 76.69 74.5 2.03 30.72 0 0 0 0 0.94 1 0 1370 1080 80.43 81.77 34.09 6.28 0 0 0 0 1.99 0.95 0 280 1050 74.77 74.77 34.4 6.22 0 0 0 0 1.99 0.95 0 280 1050 74.48 74.48 34.73 6.19 0 0 0 0 1.99 0.95 0 280 1050 72.85 72.73 35.04 22.25 0 0 0 0 1.99 0.95 0 620 1040 75.06 74.59 35.36 44.83 0 0 0 0 1.7 0.95 94.9 2320 1050 79.98 80.81 35.68 55.58 0 0 0 0 0.92 0.95 94.9 2280 1240 84.54 84.94 36.01 69.83 0 0 0 0 0.95 0.91 94.9 2270 1480 88.62 89.04 36.32 87 0 0 0 -1.5 0.9 0.9 94.9 2270 1750 92.35 92.24 36.61 106.83 0 0 0 -1.5 0.91 0.9 80.4 2250 2040 95.07 95.45 36.92 122.61 0 0 0 -1.5 0.9 0.9 73.3 2220 2290 96.72 96.47 37.24 131.94 0 0 0 -1.5 0.9 0.9 71 2230 2430 97.89 94.6 37.53 140.28 0 0 0 -1.5 0.89 0.9 65.9 2240 2450 98.99 96.15 37.86 139.44 0 0 0 -1.5 0.88 0.87 62.4 2240 2400 100.4 98.36 38.16 146.67 0 0 0 -1.5 0.84 0.84 59.6 2240 2300 101.95 102.21 38.48 150.83 0 0 0 -1.5 0.83 0.84 58.8 2240 2230 103.65 104.08 38.8 160.97 0 0 0 -1.5 0.83 0.84 59.6 2240 2190 105.38 106.15 39.1 169.25 0 0 -1.5 -0.8 0.82 0.84 61.6 2240 2190 107.21 105.91 39.44 178.17 -1.5 0 -1.5 -0.8 0.8 0.83 62.7 2220 2160 109.17 109.59 39.75 182.75 -1.5 -1.5 -1.5 -1.5 0.8 0.82 64.7 2190 2170 109.82 109.25 40.08 186.81 -3 -3 -1.5 -1.5 0.82 0.8 65.9 2160 2160 109.96 112.14 40.44 189.86 -3 -3 -1.5 -3 0.84 0.79 66.7 2140 2110 109.99 114.16 40.73 191.86 -3 -3 -1.5 -3 0.84 0.79 67.8 2110 2070 109.99 109.92 41.03 193.75 -3 -3 -1.5 -3 0.84 0.78 69.4 2080 2030 109.99 112.85 41.32 194.69 -3 -3 -1.5 -3 0.82 0.78 71.4 2010 1980 109.99 113.14 41.63 192.69 -3 -3 -1.5 -3 0.83 0.77 71.8 1950 1930 109.99 113.19 41.95 195.14 -3 -3 -1.5 -3 0.82 0.77 72.2 1870 1900 109.99 113.27 42.26 194.83 -4.5 -3 -3 -3 0.82 0.77 71 1810 1850 109.99 105.41 42.57 194.69 -4.5 -3 -4.5 -4.5 0.77 0.77 69.8 1800 1820 109.99 109.38 42.89 197.64 -4.5 -3 -4.5 -4.5 0.75 0.77 68.6 1780 1800 109.99 111.17 43.21 197.97 -4.5 -3 -4.5 -4.5 0.75 0.76 68.2 1750 1780 109.99 109.6 43.54 197.36 -4.5 -3 -4.5 -4.5 0.76 0.76 66.7 1700 1770 109.99 112.21 43.86 197.08 -4.5 -2.3 -4.5 -4.5 0.74 0.77 64.3 1670 1750 109.99 114.52 44.19 197.97 -4.5 -2.3 -4.5 -4.5 0.76 0.77 62.4 1650 1730 109.99 115.62 44.5 195.97 -4.5 -2.3 -4.5 -4.5 0.75 0.77 60 1630 1720 109.99 108.95 44.83 192.81 -4.5 -2.3 -4.5 -4.5 0.73 0.73 56.9 1540 1770 109.99 114.97 45.17 105.14 -4.5 -2.3 -4.5 -4.5 0.66 0.76 5.1 1180 1920 109.99 101.04
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 02, 2013, 01:03:05 pm: Just after opinions on this map. The fuel was 95 so i would imagine timing pull would be less with 98 fuel is used.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: bacillus on March 02, 2013, 01:45:31 pm: rpm and lambda to go with the logs would have been nice.

Apart from what you've already stated about timing pull, logs look ok.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 02, 2013, 02:59:53 pm: Lambda is there isn't it?
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 05:20:57 pm: So would you say map seems ok obviously apart from the pull
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: PDT on March 03, 2013, 05:30:08 pm: airmass values seem a bit low, would expect 205g/s
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 03, 2013, 05:38:24 pm: n75 and RPM would be good. Boost requested and boost actual would be beneficial too.
197 g/s Maf is about 246bhp so not that great for stage 2, but considering RON 95 pretty good.
Definitely get some decent fuel in there and try again. VPower.
It seems your holding the 197g/s for a while... What are your mods?
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: PDT on March 03, 2013, 05:41:39 pm: fill with real fuel and re-test, see if g/s changes.....
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 05:44:05 pm: First run was over 202g/s on 95Ron with standard exhaust. No other mods apart from panel filter and pre cat removed
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 05:47:55 pm: Boost requested and actual are there
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 03, 2013, 05:48:49 pm: 202 g/s ~ 252 BHP
Mods?
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 05:50:56 pm: As stated no mods just rev G diverter, precat emptied, and panel filter
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 03, 2013, 05:56:58 pm: Lol you changed your post.
Ahh, you really need the 3inch down pipe and lower cell cat plus decent induction kit to get the full stage2 effect.
Knowing that your only running 95 Ron, precat delete those are decent numbers... Worth noting that you should watch your EGTs with stage 2 without a 3 inch down pipe, ESP. On k03 which isn't a twin scroll like k04 is.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 06:00:56 pm: Lol I kno what I should have. However I'm testing and will be keeping my eye on egts. I was pretty impressed with figures my self lol.

Oh and for record I did have decat, intake and fuel pump however I hated car. To loud, to on and off acceleration, and to much attention not to mention the constant worry of cam follower ect lol.

So I'm playing with map to reach a decent set up
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 06:02:02 pm: I thing I may consider is wmi if I notice temps being ridiculous at wot
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 03, 2013, 06:10:34 pm: I'd defo go for a CAI closed one to keep the noise down reckon you'd get another 10bhp with good fuel too... So 260+BHP, I'd say that was pretty damn decent all things considered. :smiley:
That 197 g/s wall which lasts for a few results could well be the restrictive oem air box.

I'm running stage 1, precat delete, panel filter and make 247bhp... Been looking into a quiet CAI myself... Might consider the stage2 if your tests go well. :happy2:
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 06:15:53 pm: Not interested in a cai been there and done that. Although I am interested in a pipe which comes from turbo to airbox. It was in testing stage so will be interesting to see results
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 03, 2013, 06:26:03 pm: Who's making / testing it? Sounds interesting.
However I can't really see the OEM pipe being that restrictive at that point, what do u reckon?

Which CAI did u try? I'm not one for loud noisy motors either.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 06:31:17 pm: Samco are making it.

Look here

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=369371
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 06:33:22 pm: I only had a k&n but 99% of them will all be to loud for me and bring to much attention.

I personal don't think the oem intake is that restrictive at all. I think the them issue is the fact it sits on top of the engine which causes high intake temps.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: martziniuk on March 03, 2013, 06:58:54 pm: Well I'm pulling 258gs on a K04 conversion with stock box so they're not that restrictive. Getting air in and out as quick as possible has always been my goal.
Donovan what map you running these days, or is it top secret :wink:?
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 07:03:52 pm: Top secret at the moment :signLOL:
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 03, 2013, 07:33:29 pm: Quote from: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 06:31:17 pm
Samco are making it. Look here: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=369371

The claims: "K04 stage 1 with paper filter at least 10 grams/s, and 2+ more than 15 g/s" fall inline with what a decent CAI produces, which obviously removes the OEM turbo to air box pipework. Interesting.

No updates for nearly 4 months though; perhaps they found the expected claims we're a bit of pub talk.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 07:37:45 pm: I have fired a email off.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 03, 2013, 07:44:32 pm: Quote from: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 07:37:45 pm
I have fired a email off.

:happy2: Be feckin' awesome if it made decent gains, a lot less messing about, subscribed.
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: camfollower on March 05, 2013, 06:09:21 pm: Quote from: donovan2123 on March 03, 2013, 07:37:45 pm
I have fired a email off.

Did you get any reply mate?
Title: Re: Remap Stage 2 logs discuss
Post by: donovan2123 on March 05, 2013, 06:29:24 pm: No?