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Title: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 11, 2013, 09:44:48 pm
Hi All

Finally looking at getting a mitre saw. However, I cannot immediately see why the sliding versions cost so much more! Only a keen DIY'er, but want to get some compact and still able to cope with larger tasks.

Would really be grateful for any views on these:

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/bosch-pcm-7s-1200w-diy-sliding-mitre-saw-240v-p59290 (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/bosch-pcm-7s-1200w-diy-sliding-mitre-saw-240v-p59290)

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/bosch-pcm-8-s-1200w-diy-bench-top-compound-sliding-mitre-saw-240v-p7072 (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/bosch-pcm-8-s-1200w-diy-bench-top-compound-sliding-mitre-saw-240v-p7072)

http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dw713xps-250mm-mitre-saw-240v/69195 (http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dw713xps-250mm-mitre-saw-240v/69195)

These are max budget. It just seems that the Dewalt can cope with similar thickness with sliding??

Thanks in advance, cheers
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: Eddie-NL on March 11, 2013, 09:53:11 pm
it will depend on what you are going to use it for

A sliding one can be used to trench

I've always used Dewalt and they have been good for their saws
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: doylebros on March 11, 2013, 09:56:51 pm
Hire and save yourself the worry if it's not for anything other than DIY,as there's no single perfect tool - Dewalt is the most trouble free product we've bought for everyday use for the price though!
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 11, 2013, 09:58:55 pm
it will depend on what you are going to use it for

A sliding one can be used to trench

I've always used Dewalt and they have been good for their saws

Ah trench.......? Initially just for skirtings, batons etc, but will need to cope with joists when I start putting storage up in the roof pitch of the garage! So sliding version might not be necessary?

Thanks v much
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 11, 2013, 10:03:15 pm
Hire and save yourself the worry if it's not for anything other than DIY,as there's no single perfect tool - Dewalt is the most trouble free product we've bought for everyday use for the price though!

Thanks, never thought about hiring, but will be a birthday present, and just handy to have to hand when I am doing odd timber jobs.
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: andyR43 on March 12, 2013, 08:01:01 am
Out of those listed it would have to be the DeWalt, Bosch power tools don't last. You should be looking at DeWalt, Makita or Hitachi.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: alanbgt on March 12, 2013, 08:03:12 am
My De Walt has been extremely solid.  Bosch one was not.
If you have lots of work for it, I would say the higher price for the De Walt is a good investment.

Alan
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 12, 2013, 08:17:33 am
Thanks Guys

My only concern with the Dewalt is that it is non-sliding, and the Bosch do slide. Just worried that once I start using it more, I might realise the benefit of the slide function....??? Still not sure what the slide does yet!!??

Thanks all
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: rich83 on March 12, 2013, 08:19:45 am
I got one from b&q lasted year and its fine for 99 quid. Think it's made by a company called rage.
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: rich83 on March 12, 2013, 08:20:30 am
With the slide you can cut wider items such as flooring.
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: andyR43 on March 12, 2013, 08:29:05 am
The slide allows you to cut wider boards for a given blade size. As you can see in the links you've provided the 2 Bosch saws have smaller blades than the DeWalt. For the home DIY'er an Evolution Rage sliding saw (as mentioned by RICHWIG83) is a better buy than a Bosch and will last better.
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: monte on March 12, 2013, 08:49:11 am
I got one from b&q lasted year and its fine for 99 quid. Think it's made by a company called rage.


Rage 3-S Evolution  are worth their weight in gold. £99 Screwfix.

The Thin Multi purpose Blades are Amazing, and they are only £20 to replace, but they last ages.
(Dependant on how much Metal you cut through)

I have a £700 Bosch 305mm Mitre Saw that I used for work, but I bought the Rage for smaller jobs.

Since I've had the Rage saw, I've only ever used the Bosch for things like 4x4" decking posts etc. The Rage is So handy and portable.

The Rage is awesome for Skirting and Door Archi's etc. Even with its little Blade it will cut 200mm on a 45'.


You will struggle with wet joists if they are over 6x2" but tbh the Rage 3-S isn't really the tool for that sort of work.

If you get the Rage 3-S you WILL love it.


http://www.evolutionpowertools.com/uk/build/rage3s.html
 
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: monte on March 12, 2013, 08:55:53 am
For £200 you can get the Bigger Rage 3.

Tbh I think this is the one for you mate.

It'll do almost anything...including the bigger stuff.  :wink:

Check out the video here....


http://www.evolutionpowertools.com/videos/rage3_video.html
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 12, 2013, 07:17:25 pm
Thanks all. Monte, really like the look of your suggestions, but there seems to be 2 versions of the 3S at Screwfix. Seem the same power etc, perhaps a new model. This one seems to have guides and a dust bag, but £169! ????

http://www.screwfix.com/p/evolution-rage3-s-210mm-sliding-mitre-saw-240v/70961 (http://www.screwfix.com/p/evolution-rage3-s-210mm-sliding-mitre-saw-240v/70961)

http://www.screwfix.com/p/evolution-rage3-s-210mm-sliding-compound-mitre-saw-240v/60839# (http://www.screwfix.com/p/evolution-rage3-s-210mm-sliding-compound-mitre-saw-240v/60839#)

I can get the Dewalt in my original post for £130, but the Evolution seems to be the one to go for still? Plus I've always wanted an Evo!
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: beetie on March 12, 2013, 08:07:56 pm
As said by others, those Bosch ones are very cheaply made. Being green they are diy use (flimsy), for decent Bosch you need the professional range which are blue.
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: AA on March 12, 2013, 09:49:25 pm
http://www.its.co.uk/Power-Tools/Mitre-Saws.htm   :happy2:
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 12, 2013, 10:15:08 pm
Thanks for everyone's advice. Based on the recomendations and reviews I've read, just ordered the Rage 3S:

http://www.tesco.com/direct/evolution-rage3-multipurpose-sliding-mitre-saw-orange/210-2678.prd (http://www.tesco.com/direct/evolution-rage3-multipurpose-sliding-mitre-saw-orange/210-2678.prd)

Found a voucher and got £10 off!

This looks like a new model, with dust bag and guides/support rails.

I will give feedback in due course, and again, thanks for taking the time to reply.
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: monte on March 12, 2013, 11:26:48 pm
Thanks for everyone's advice. Based on the recomendations and reviews I've read, just ordered the Rage 3S:

http://www.tesco.com/direct/evolution-rage3-multipurpose-sliding-mitre-saw-orange/210-2678.prd (http://www.tesco.com/direct/evolution-rage3-multipurpose-sliding-mitre-saw-orange/210-2678.prd)

Found a voucher and got £10 off!

This looks like a new model, with dust bag and guides/support rails.

I will give feedback in due course, and again, thanks for taking the time to reply.


Congrats on your purchase!!!  :congrats:

Did you get the 3-S (210mm blade)

Or the 3? (255mm blade)


You mention buying the 3-S but the Tesco's link is for the bigger Rage3 at £199  :happy2:

Either one will be great!  :wink:


Going back to the Screwfix Links....I'm pretty sure they wouldn't charge £60 just for some clamps you will never use and a dust bag.
I have a funny feeling that even the £99 one would come with ALL the accessories  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: rich83 on March 13, 2013, 12:12:42 am
That one looks better than the one ive got in that it looks like it will accept larger items.  :happy2:

Youll find its really good... i did these 45º mitres with it and they were perfect.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/374064_10151042614715882_1022233066_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 13, 2013, 07:27:51 am
Sorry, my mistake, it is the smaller 210:

http://www.tesco.com/direct/evolution-rage3-s-multipurpose-sliding-mitre-saw-orange/210-2449.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=210-2449 (http://www.tesco.com/direct/evolution-rage3-s-multipurpose-sliding-mitre-saw-orange/210-2449.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=210-2449)

Might drop into Srewfix and take a look at the boxes! Will let you know.
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: GE90 on March 13, 2013, 07:49:37 pm
Right, an update.......

After much research it seemed that there were 2 different Evolution Rage 210 3's, one with accessories and one without (possibly other differences as well). This was based largely on images and descriptions. However, after calling Evolution (v helpfull), they advised that no model comes with these, and that the only difference is that one is largely flat pack, the other fully assembled. So ended up canceling the Tesco order, and picking one up from Screwfix for £99.99. Accessory pack only £9 delivered from Evolution, so done deal!

Anyway, thanks to everyone, cheers!
Title: Re: Power tools!! Mitre Saws.........
Post by: monte on March 13, 2013, 08:48:52 pm
Right, an update.......

After much research it seemed that there were 2 different Evolution Rage 210 3's, one with accessories and one without (possibly other differences as well). This was based largely on images and descriptions. However, after calling Evolution (v helpfull), they advised that no model comes with these, and that the only difference is that one is largely flat pack, the other fully assembled. So ended up canceling the Tesco order, and picking one up from Screwfix for £99.99. Accessory pack only £9 delivered from Evolution, so done deal!

Anyway, thanks to everyone, cheers!


Great Deal mate!!!

Best £100 you can spend mate  :happy2: