MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 09:05:07 am
hi im currently looking to buy a 56 plate mk5 gti but after reading some posts its kind of put me off with all the problems there seems to be with these cars
are they really that bad? or am i reading to much into stuff eg rust etc?
also ive found a 56 reg with 95k miles on for £5700 fsh its manual pretty standard except heated seats and rear parking sensors, is that a good price?

any advice will be apriciated
cheers
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Tortaruga on March 28, 2013, 09:10:27 am
Mine has been great since I bought it a year ago. She's 6 years old now.

Inevitably people post problems on a forum to try and find a solution, so it can appear that they're nothing but trouble.

Price seems ok if the car is in good shape.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 09:21:41 am
its just putting me off reading about cam followers, dv, pcv, rust etc i was just hoping to buy the car and enjoy but it looks like if i do buy one the old toolbox is going to have to come out of retirement  :surprised: which i cant really be arsed to do if im honest, and  by time i replace all these parts the car int so cheap anymore.
oh well decisions decisions
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Trev. on March 28, 2013, 09:26:37 am
Go on ANY forum and you will find these stories.

Forums are mostly used to help diagnose common problems.

End of the day if you dont want to see these bad points of ANY car...

Stay off forums
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 28, 2013, 09:34:09 am
DV, PCV, Cam follower are all cheap fixes  :happy2:

As has been said many people join forums to find fixes to issues which may exagerrate problems, most cars will have minor common issues though  :smiley:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: camfollower on March 28, 2013, 09:47:24 am
All of the above... Name any car and I bet you can find common problems with them all...kseries rovers was the head gasket, mk1 focus was the synchro mesh, SAABs was the oil sludging and bulkhead splitting... In comparison, mk5 gti problems are less serious except for the cam follower, which can be sorted as part of regular maintenance with a 28 quid part.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 09:56:23 am
thanks for your replys everyone  :happy2:
yes i agree im probably reading into things to much, its just alot of money for me in these times, i dont want to have to worry about things going wrong especially as in my price range the cars are high mileage ones. im unsure whether to just buy an old banger cos your not bothered then lol
i think the main worry is rust  :surprised: i thought vw`s where pretty good in this area, i know most are getting them replaced for free but with my luck if mine go they will say its nowt to do with them.
im supposed to be going to collect it this aft so will have a good think about it before then
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 28, 2013, 10:02:41 am
DV, PCV, Cam follower are all cheap fixes  :happy2:

^^^that^^^

Very cheap fixes.  Id say the TFSI is a pretty reliable power plant.  if ou want unreliable get yourself a 1.4TSI!! :fighting:  :grin:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: andrewparker on March 28, 2013, 10:07:25 am
Ive had mine for 6 years now and it has done 55000 miles and has been absolutely faultless, and in fact I feel it has got better with age. Buy a car with a full service history and I don't think you'll go far wrong.

I do think VW could include things like the cam follower into the service routine, but in the case of things like the DV it's not definite this will deteriorate. I changed mine after 45000 miles and it was in perfect condition when I removed it. Again, the PCV was changed but this is a very cheap DIY job.

The only thing it is expensive on is fuel and tyres, but then that's a good sign you're having fun! Strangely I still haven't had to change the brake discs and pads, which I still find unusual for a 6-year-old car.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: camfollower on March 28, 2013, 10:35:26 am
thanks for your replys everyone  :happy2:
yes i agree im probably reading into things to much, its just alot of money for me in these times, i dont want to have to worry about things going wrong especially as in my price range the cars are high mileage ones. im unsure whether to just buy an old banger cos your not bothered then lol
i think the main worry is rust  :surprised: i thought vw`s where pretty good in this area, i know most are getting them replaced for free but with my luck if mine go they will say its nowt to do with them.
im supposed to be going to collect it this aft so will have a good think about it before then

TBH mate, with a high milage car I'd be worried about the Clutch and Dual Mass Flywheel as the next expensive... your looking at £600+ for that right there.  But that goes for any forced induction motor these days.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: camfollower on March 28, 2013, 10:41:55 am
The wing rust was down to the wheel arch liners rubbing on the arch, it rusts from the inside out... most often VW will replace the wings outside warranty.

Also, make sure it's up to date with the water pump / cam belt service, as that's a good £350+
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 10:43:30 am
TBH mate, with a high milage car I'd be worried about the Clutch and Dual Mass Flywheel as the next expensive... your looking at £600+ for that right there.  But that goes for any forced induction motor these days.

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cheers for that, thats put my mind at rest  :signLOL: but yeah ive thought of that just wish i could strech my budget, there seems to be some lower mileage ones for same sort of money but there miles away and pretty hard to get to without a car
think im going to bite the bullet and go for it just hope fingers crossed i havnt bought a dog :scared:


what are the recommended intervals for the cam belt to be changed? i know it got changed at 56k in 2010
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: camfollower on March 28, 2013, 10:44:43 am
TBH mate, with a high milage car I'd be worried about the Clutch and Dual Mass Flywheel as the next expensive... your looking at £600+ for that right there.  But that goes for any forced induction motor these days.


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cheers for that, thats put my mind at rest  :signLOL: but yeah ive thought of that just wish i could strech my budget, there seems to be some lower mileage ones for same sort of money but there miles away and pretty hard to get to without a car
think im going to bite the bullet and go for it just hope fingers crossed i havnt bought a dog :scared:


good luck mate, let's see pics when you have it :happy2:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on March 28, 2013, 10:46:46 am
thanks for your replys everyone  :happy2:
yes i agree im probably reading into things to much, its just alot of money for me in these times, i dont want to have to worry about things going wrong especially as in my price range the cars are high mileage ones. im unsure whether to just buy an old banger cos your not bothered then lol
i think the main worry is rust  :surprised: i thought vw`s where pretty good in this area, i know most are getting them replaced for free but with my luck if mine go they will say its nowt to do with them.
im supposed to be going to collect it this aft so will have a good think about it before then

You won't be having any fun then and also the repair costs are usually more than the cars worth.

As the others have said the issues mentioned are small and cheap to fix (apart from the rust, although VW should cover that). Mine had its 6th birthday this Feb, I've owned it for the past 2 years and not has any issues, although it is a low miller at only 34k. I changed the DV as precaution when getting it remapped in Jan and the old one was fine. I will most likely get the cam follower changed at the next service (for peach of mind) but am expecting it to be in good condition. I'm sure my PCV is fine as don't have any symptoms.

With the amount I have spent modding my GTI these parts are basically loose change :grin:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 10:54:55 am
what are the recommended intervals for the cam belt to be changed? i know it got changed at 56k in 2010
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on March 28, 2013, 11:12:31 am
what are the recommended intervals for the cam belt to be changed? i know it got changed at 56k in 2010

IIRC 4 years or 60k.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 11:15:22 am
so that needs changing straight away to then
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on March 28, 2013, 11:37:57 am
so that needs changing straight away to then

Well based on what you said it will need doing in 2014 or @ 116k.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 11:46:28 am
oh yeah i lost a year somewhere  :signLOL:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 12:12:55 pm
definatley getting it  :P will post pics later
im just about to order the cam follower to get that changed over straight away as i doubt its been done, should i replace the dv regardless even if there doesnt seem to be an issue ( just so i can order them at the same time)
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on March 28, 2013, 12:15:15 pm
^^^
Nice! You will enjoy it :happy2:

What reg/millage is it?
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 12:18:49 pm
its on a 56 plate with 96k
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on March 28, 2013, 01:13:12 pm
At that millage I would definitely change the cam follower. The DV would probably be the version C so I reckon it will be fine but could get it changed for peace of mind.

The follower is more important as if that fails it will take other bits with it, whereas if the DV fails/leaks it will be just that part that needs changing.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 06:48:11 pm
thanks for all your advice everyone just got back it drives like a dream :grin: ive posted some pics in the correct forum
ive got the cam follower on order so that will be this weekends job
the oil is a little low just on the min mark but its still warm so may not be that bad, does annyone know which oil i need to get for in between services?
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: Richie_101 on March 28, 2013, 07:12:44 pm
does annyone know which oil i need to get for in between services?

Castrol Edge 5w-30. Accept no substitute.

Rich.

PS. Welcome to the club.  :happy2: ... The first rule of MkV GTI club is "worry about your cam follower", the second rule of MkV GTI club is "worry about your cam follower".  :signLOL:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 07:15:33 pm
 :signLOL: cheers richie
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bigeyd on March 28, 2013, 07:16:29 pm
lol @ cam follower line  :happy2:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: MC71 on March 28, 2013, 07:41:18 pm
definatley getting it  :P will post pics later
im just about to order the cam follower to get that changed over straight away as i doubt its been done, should i replace the dv regardless even if there doesnt seem to be an issue ( just so i can order them at the same time)

Nice one.  :drinking:

As mentioned already in this thread, change the Cam follower, DV (to Rev. G) and PCV, all as a precautionary measure. There all cheap and not a big ob to do. I'd also add changing the fuel filter to the list.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: dmac1969 on March 28, 2013, 08:11:34 pm
Congrats on your new car , TBH Ive had 2 Mk5 GTIs in the last 3 years and apart from the front wing rust that I got fixed for nowt on my 05 plate , Ive had no bother whatsoever!
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 08:17:19 pm
is there anyway to tell if your wings are rotting from the inside out? i never got chance to check as it was dark. if there bubbleing on the outside under the paint will they get replaced?
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: camfollower on March 28, 2013, 08:18:34 pm
is there anyway to tell if your wings are rotting from the inside out? i never got chance to check as it was dark. if there bubbleing on the outside under the paint will they get replaced?

Best way to tell, is to take the arch liner out --- there is a good hit rate on the number of VW claims.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: RedRobin on March 28, 2013, 08:20:41 pm
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Jeeze! My mind has been completely fuddled by camfollower's forum sig!! Who is she!!?

ALL cars, not just Mk5 GTI's can have minor problems and ALL cars need to be well maintained. The average car has over 5,000 components, any of which can need attention.

I've had my Mk5 DSG GTI for nearly 8 years from new and enjoyed 106,000 miles without any really serious problems.
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: divweir on March 28, 2013, 08:22:27 pm
Don't buy one as all you will do is go on this forum and worry your gti is going to blow up buy a ford fiesta  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 08:44:03 pm
Don't buy one as all you will do is go on this forum and worry your gti is going to blow up buy a ford fiesta  :evilgrin:
to late  :smiley: that sig is awsome  :drool:
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: bower on March 28, 2013, 09:16:44 pm
if anyones intrested eurocarparts have got 4l of castrol edge on sale at the min just under £30 and free p&p
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: camfollower on March 28, 2013, 09:23:00 pm
if anyones intrested eurocarparts have got 4l of castrol edge on sale at the min just under £30 and free p&p

Thanks for the heads up... excellent price that! LINK (http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-accessories/engine-oils-and-car-fluids/engineoils/5w30-engine-oil/?521771021&0&cc5_247)
Title: Re: are mk5 gti`s to much hassel?
Post by: olufsen on March 28, 2013, 09:31:20 pm
It is a great price, thanks bower and for the link cam follower, will buy some now. :happy2: