MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: MC71 on April 01, 2013, 11:22:27 pm
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Recently I've been reading about break ins where the feckers are only after the car keys. :fighting:
Is it just me being paranoid or does anyone else hide their car keys/house keys, wallet, mobile phone etc at nighttime, god forbid there's a burglary??
All my stuff lives in the bedroom at nighttime where only I can get it. My wife on the other hand says the car keys (and ONLY the car keys :confused:) should be left downstairs, out of sight but easy to find, so that once found by the feckers, they will leave without venturing further into the house.
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As much as I'd hate my car nicked, I'd prefer them to steal it than wake up with someone at the bottom of the bed demanding the keys :signLOL: Its all insured let them have it.
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Not sure about this but my stuff also lives in the bedroom. The thinking is generally the feckers avoid confrontations so will take anything downstairs and not come upstairs.
But would be interesting to hear others views :happy2:
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Bit of a can of worms and has been hotly debated on here a number of times.
I have a wife and two kids and rightly or wrongly I take all of my keys up with me at night. I don't see why I should make it easy for someone to take something my wife and I have worked very hard for. Yes my family are far more important than any hunk of metal but why should you just give in?
Chances are they do not want any confrontation whatsoever so if they don't find anything or are disturbed hopefully they will do one. If they do come upstairs I will have a treat waiting for them! :fighting:
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My keys stay with me at all times. Having been done once I want the opportunity to "discuss" if it's happening again. :fighting: :fighting:
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Best thing to do is install 2+ 500watt security lights on your drive, install a security post on your drive and alarm your house. Thiefs are opartunists, they will just look for an easier target
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Stick them up your bum......
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Martin
Ask yourself, what would HE do??
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Harry Callahan dispensing justice a .44 at a time. :happy2:
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make my car punk
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Had my keys fished out from the letterbox 7yrs ago when I had a Subaru...was a nightmare as we had to change all the locks in the house & the chippy I run...to make matters worse i saw my car the next night blasting past the shell garage as I was filling up my misses car..
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I'm lucky if I can find my car keys when I want to go out so god knows what it would be like with 2 beefcakes threatening me with boiling hot water. Luckily I have a 35kg Weimaraner that kind of likes to savage intruders of his house. That said if your car is really wanted (and I'm talking high end Prestige stuff) they will do anything to get the car you only have to see some of the horrific stories on crime watch.
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Mine sit on my bedside table at night. I've been in a situation where intruders broke into my house but weren't immediately able to find the keys, so they scarpered.
If anyone was to break in and come upstairs I'd give them my keys without question. It really doesn't figure in my psyche that a car is anything more than a possession, plain and simple. Compared to the harm and devestation that could be the result of a confrontation with an intruder it is worthless to me.
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I hope no thieves read this thread and target people that have said where they hide them, my mate had his house turned over from top to bottom to look for keys to his focus st that had a lot of money spent under the bonnet and they found them but left the rest of the cars. Horrible people
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With me at all times. If they want confrontation, then my 2 burglar alarms (dogs) will alert me when i need to weapon up and be prepared for the scum.
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I hope no thieves read this thread and target people that have said where they hide them,
Surely they would also need to know where you live? :confused:
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I work nights so theyd have great difficulty taking my car from a car park with security in it and my keys in my pocket. On my nights off the keys hang up in my kitchen, but im in a second floor flat so theyd have difficulty getting them.
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It all depends on how much they want it .. if they do they will try and keep trying and wait for the right time.
As for "its insured", yes it is but it doesnt help when you get offered a crap settlement
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Security lights, 2 Dogs and a fixed (hidden) lock box for Keys would make life hard for them, add to that a gravel drive so would hear them coming before they got to house anyway!
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It all depends on how much they want it .. if they do they will try and keep trying and wait for the right time.
As for "its insured", yes it is but it doesnt help when you get offered a crap settlement
Then afterwards the insurance rob you for the third time with a higher premium!! :fighting2:
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Shows what a sh*t world we live in having to hide our keys.... I take my keys with me to bed. I also have a very unsociable dog. And if they get past him and wake me up god help them as I will do an American history x film and put there head on kerb lol. If they want car bad enough though they will take them as proven by a few poor people lately on here
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In fact insurance isn't too bad, had a quote the same or within a few quid.
That I was surprised about but then it's not like an accident I suppose.
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It's threads such as this that,whilst unfortunate for you lot that live with this threat,makes me glad that I live where I do and don't have to worry about it.
The most I have to consider is remembering where I left my keys.... :confused: :wink:
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That's the UK for you. God forsaken sh*thole that it is.
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A lock box fastened to the floor is the best idea i think
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last monday my mate had his house broke into by two men, went straight upstairs to where him, his 8 year old daughter and 6 month pregnant GF were all sleeping and threatened with machete's asking for the car keys (seat leon K1), he threw them out the window for them to get and said they would be back, they his gf wont go back tot he house since and they want to sell it, his car was smashed up a few days later in a car chase.
Another friend woke up to a knife held to him for his tuned focus ST keys, he told them where they were and they ended up leaving with them but dropped them on the drive and left without the car strangely.
Both these incidents happened near Birmingham, to me its not worth it, even if they are empty threats with weapons id rather not find out, they can have it, thats what you have insurance for. Anyone that says they would fight blah blah needs looking at IMO. Especially if you have family/anyone else in the house with you.
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I'm actually quite shocked to hear how many people on this thread have been broken into and all the horror stories that go with it :confused:
I live in South East London, and thank god nothing like this has ever happened to me or anybody I know either - touch wood it never will!!
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It's threads such as this that,whilst unfortunate for you lot that live with this threat,makes me glad that I live where I do and don't have to worry about it.
The most I have to consider is remembering where I left my keys.... :confused: :wink:
do you live on the moon then or something? lol
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I'm actually quite shocked to hear how many people on this thread have been broken into and all the horror stories that go with it :confused:
I live in South East London, and thank god nothing like this has ever happened to me or anybody I know either - touch wood it never will!!
So am I. Not happened to me or anyone I know.
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It's threads such as this that,whilst unfortunate for you lot that live with this threat,makes me glad that I live where I do and don't have to worry about it.
The most I have to consider is remembering where I left my keys.... :confused: :wink:
I'm with u on this, and I'm actually convinced I live in a $hithole :signLOL:
Maybe they only target nice areas? :confused:
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It's a hard thing when something you've worked hard for gets taken from you and then your set to loose thousands of pounds + the stress of the whole situation, family members worry, then the worry of it happening again etc etc
Why the hell shouldn't you have something nice if you work hard for it - should I have to drive around in something crap just in case it happens again.
As they say "until it happens to you"
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When we are about 19/20 Myself and one of my mates once caught a car thief trying to get his mum's Escort RS Turbo (Series 1) door open (we just happened to be walking home after a night out on the tiles), we saw what he was doing and my mate walked past him and straight to his house and woke his dad up, I stopped and asked if he needed some help as I wanted a lift home :wink:
about 1 min later all hell broke loose as my my mates dad appeared, I swept the scrotes legs from under him and wrestled him to the floor, my mates dad then grabbed hold of him. Police turned up, the chap was looking pretty worse for wear :grin:, police asked what happened and as he had "Struggled" we had to restrain him and he got injured, police said "Fair enough" and took him away, he coughed to 37 car thefts at the station (Including my mates parents 1st series 1 RS Turbo which was stolen 4 months earlier!!!).
After that they kept the car at the farm in a barn where the farm dogs slept :signLOL:
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Luckily I live in a house share in a 3 and a half bedroom house with 3 cars. One of them leaves the keys for his car on the stairs.. :stupid: But I always hide mine out of habit.. normally hide them from myself in the morning. :confused:
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My cars are garaged with a separate alarm on the garage , including internal sounders and external ones , and also including a very loud air driven one - the cars inside the garage are also alarmed and fitted with immobilisers .
We park the daily use cars in front of the garage doors and they are also alarmed , immobilised and have steering wheel metal cover locks on . The garage has intruder lights all round it .
Our house is also alarmed and we set the downstairs zone when in bed , and used to have a nice bulldog awaiting for them should they venture in ( sadly we lost her a year ago but are considering another in the near future )
Keys are always upstairs with me . Anyone getting in will set off the alarm and then all hell will break loose .
I am also considering CCTV , not sure what else you can do but hopefully any potential thieves will be put off by the sound of the alarm going off .
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This happened to me 2 yrs back,broke in thru the cheap UPVC door,First thing they found was the keys and off they went with the pride and joy and my fecking golf clubs.
My security was sh*t to say the least but now I,ll be able to hear their efforts,make a cup of tea and ring the fuzz before they get in.
On another note,the car was empty of fuel (10 mile range remaining,lazy me),at the time the only white GTI in Doncaster and plod said they have an idea who did it....NEVER FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused:
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Sleep with me alongside wallet and phone. If I hear anyone breaking in, their head will swiftly come into contact with 2lb 12 oz of the finest Millichamp & Hall West Country cricket bat willow, also in my bedroom!!
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Sleep with me alongside wallet and phone. If I hear anyone breaking in, their head will swiftly come into contact with 2lb 12 oz of the finest Millichamp & Hall West Country cricket bat willow, also in my bedroom!!
Hahaha love it :happy2:really makes my blood boil these story's. scum bags. Is like fort nocks at our house. The car is in the garage which is alarmed blocked in with the van. The van is restricted from moving off the drive with a security post and gates. Then too top it off the dog!! You really shouldn't have too go to these extremes thou should you. :evilgrin:
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U reckon these cars that are nicked and driven off with the keys stay in the UK or are shipped abroad? :confused:
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"Apparently, what happens is Albanians go to England, get a job, buy a car and then bring it back with them," Clarkson
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U reckon these cars that are nicked and driven off with the keys stay in the UK or are shipped abroad? :confused:
Most are split down, generally you get more money and it's harder to trace (EG there's no way of proving what car a set of Recaros came out of for example) or shipped abroad in containers to order.
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U reckon these cars that are nicked and driven off with the keys stay in the UK or are shipped abroad? :confused:
Most are split down, generally you get more money and it's harder to trace (EG there's no way of proving what car a set of Recaros came out of for example) or shipped abroad in containers to order.
Mine had false plates and would probably have been sold on as that's what this particular piece of pikey sh*t had done with the others he had stolen, except they crashed it and abandoned it.
One of the cars he sold to a chap obviously flagged up as a dodgy motor. He then contacted the seller and arranged to buy another as he "liked" the one he had bought so much. He turned up and went for a test drive with said pikey held hostage with a shotgun until the Police appeared. :congrats: :evilgrin:
His minor misdemeanor was brushed under the carpet and the Police had the scrote that was responsible for the theft of over 40 cars. :fighting: :fighting:
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U reckon these cars that are nicked and driven off with the keys stay in the UK or are shipped abroad? :confused:
Most are split down, generally you get more money and it's harder to trace (EG there's no way of proving what car a set of Recaros came out of for example) or shipped abroad in containers to order.
Mine had false plates and would probably have been sold on as that's what this particular piece of pikey sh*t had done with the others he had stolen, except they crashed it and abandoned it.
One of the cars he sold to a chap obviously flagged up as a dodgy motor. He then contacted the seller and arranged to buy another as he "liked" the one he had bought so much. He turned up and went for a test drive with said pikey held hostage with a shotgun until the Police appeared. :congrats: :evilgrin:
His minor misdemeanor was brushed under the carpet and the Police had the scrote that was responsible for the theft of over 40 cars. :fighting: :fighting:
I'm obviously not a criminal mastermind, but how the hell do you sell a stolen car with false plates etc.....???
How do they get a logbook that states the cars number plate is correct etc....???
Surely only a muppet would part with money for a stolen car??
I can understand buying a £300 banger without doing the necessary checks, but not parting with the best part of £5K or above without checking it out thoroughly!!!
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U reckon these cars that are nicked and driven off with the keys stay in the UK or are shipped abroad? :confused:
Im guessing they probably use the stolen cars to do more crimes, Hit and runs, getaway cars etc.
My mates house got broken into a few years ago while he was sleeping upstairs, his keys were downstairs, but his car was parked 2 roads away. He was obviously followed home as he lives in a total dead end area. Anyways, the car was stolen and when the car was recovered, his subwoofers had gone, and in the boot left behind was a baseball bat covered in blood!
This is east london by the way
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Sleep with me alongside wallet and phone. If I hear anyone breaking in, their head will swiftly come into contact with 2lb 12 oz of the finest Millichamp & Hall West Country cricket bat willow, also in my bedroom!!
I think these kind of comments illustrate how we would all feel. But you must remember that you can only use "reasonable force" ie if you take out a burglar with a bat, golf club etc he will sue you for assault and battery and/or GBH depending on what you do to him. If however, he is trying to stab you/smash your head in it is reasonable for you to use the required force to defend yourself.
In terms ot eh MK5 Golf as it is now getting older I would not have thought organised thieves would be too interested in them. If however, you have an RS3, M135i, or an R for example then take every precaution you can!
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Sleep with me alongside wallet and phone. If I hear anyone breaking in, their head will swiftly come into contact with 2lb 12 oz of the finest Millichamp & Hall West Country cricket bat willow, also in my bedroom!!
I think these kind of comments illustrate how we would all feel. But you must remember that you can only use "reasonable force" ie if you take out a burglar with a bat, golf club etc he will sue you for assault and battery and/or GBH depending on what you do to him. If however, he is trying to stab you/smash your head in it is reasonable for you to use the required force to defend yourself.
In terms ot eh MK5 Golf as it is now getting older I would not have thought organised thieves would be too interested in them. If however, you have an RS3, M135i, or an R for example then take every precaution you can!
Nothing wrong with clubbing them with a piece of willow and placing a knife in their hands afterwards!!! :fighting:
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if some feckless, jobless, monosyllabic, crack smoking retarded wa*ker breaks into our house (at that VERY point he steps over the threshold) he's lost all rights to be treated with servility and restraint so while his twitching, bleeding and broken body is laying at the bottom of the stairs I'll place my baseball bat by him and say he attacked me, self defence your honour.
Who you gonna believe, me (a respected member of the community who's never even received a parking ticket, worked every adult day of my life and paid all my taxes and sits on the PTA) or the sh*thead who broke into my house?
(And that's just what my wife would do!) :laugh:
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I'm obviously not a criminal mastermind, but how the hell do you sell a stolen car with false plates etc.....???
How do they get a logbook that states the cars number plate is correct etc....???
Surely only a muppet would part with money for a stolen car??
I can understand buying a £300 banger without doing the necessary checks, but not parting with the best part of £5K or above without checking it out thoroughly!!!
Fake V5.
They steal plates off a car that's the same colour so that makes it easier then just fake a V5 with the VIN from one and the reg from another.
You're right you don't need to be a criminal mastermind just have a V5.
http://www.carreg.co.uk/carreg-news/dvla-issues-stolen-v5-documents-warning/
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if some feckless, jobless, monosyllabic, crack smoking retarded wa*ker breaks into our house (at that VERY point he steps over the threshold) he's lost all rights to be treated with servility and restraint so while his twitching, bleeding and broken body is laying at the bottom of the stairs I'll place my baseball bat by him and say he attacked me, self defence your honour.
Who you gonna believe, me (a respected member of the community who's never even received a parking ticket, worked every adult day of my life and paid all my taxes and sits on the PTA) or the sh*thead who broke into my house?
(And that's just what my wife would do!) :laugh:
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This :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
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if some feckless, jobless, monosyllabic, crack smoking retarded wa*ker breaks into our house (at that VERY point he steps over the threshold) he's lost all rights to be treated with servility and restraint so while his twitching, bleeding and broken body is laying at the bottom of the stairs I'll place my baseball bat by him and say he attacked me, self defence your honour.
Who you gonna believe, me (a respected member of the community who's never even received a parking ticket, worked every adult day of my life and paid all my taxes and sits on the PTA) or the sh*thead who broke into my house?
(And that's just what my wife would do!) :laugh:
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This :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
LEGEN........DARY!!!!! :grin:
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It's all very well unless you become the victim and you're the one taken out in a bag. You're only a hero for protecting other people, not possessions.
My family would never forgive me if I was killed because I decided to protect our property. And understandably in my opinion.
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^^^^ I completely agree with every word.
In reality i don't know what I'd actually do if confronted by an intruder but I KNOW I'd do anything to protect my wife, kids and granddaughter (if they all happened to be staying in our house at the time) regardless of my own safety.
If you were to shout at them and they scarper then all's good (relatively speaking) but if they come at you.....
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Clifford Advantguarde...
If the proximity sensors and flashing lights don't put them off first then simply let them take your keys if threatened...
They'll manage to drive 100 yards away from you before the engine cuts out, locking the thieving scum inside. Alarm and horn blaring, lights flashing etc. main thing is YOUR safe!
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Clifford Advantguarde...
If the proximity sensors and flashing lights don't put them off first then simply let them take your keys if threatened...
They'll manage to drive 100 yards away from you before the engine cuts out, locking the thieving scum inside. Alarm and horn blaring, lights flashing etc. main thing is YOUR safe!
Correct! until they come back a few weeks later not looking for your car but looking for revenge. :smiley:
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There are some very worrying threads on here at the moment , what with RNS thefts and house break ins for the keys , what a dump this country is now. :fighting:
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Thieves (opportunist ones) are like bullies at school, if you hand over your keys (lunch money) your inviting them back again, if you stand your ground or give em a smack they will target another car as they aint likely to get hurt doing it, dont risk your life, but if he is on his own or is clearly a little scrote or you have some kind of training or a weapon, let em taste some pain!, just like bullies, they will go target someone who aint gonna fight back or make life hard for them :happy2:
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Thieves (opportunist ones) are like bullies at school, if you hand over your keys (lunch money) your inviting them back again, if you stand your ground or give em a smack they will target another car as they aint likely to get hurt doing it, dont risk your life, but if he is on his own or is clearly a little scrote or you have some kind of training or a weapon, let em taste some pain!, just like bullies, they will go target someone who aint gonna fight back or make life hard for them :happy2:
This is likely to be true.
But it could work the other way round and they could come back again, with more people with a different intention.
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Or it could turn out to be a little scrote hiding a knife in his sleeve. Seriously, what the f*ck is the point?
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Swallow the keys and sh!t them out each morning.. :happy2:
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alarmfast with window and door sensors. one tap and the alarms go off :) best investment ever
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Swallow the keys and sh!t them out each morning.. :happy2:
Isn't that like shooting someone you don't like very much, by putting the gun against your own head when they're stood behind you? :chicken:
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Swallow the keys and sh!t them out each morning.. :happy2:
I can see a few flaws in this plan.....
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Just an echo from what someone else has mentioned.
Put as many deterrents in the way as possible. If you have a drive way put your car in it, close the gates, security post and lights, house alarm, close all inside doors making it harder to plan there route, close curtains so they cant spot your keys.
Its sad that you have to do this.
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Hang a blank eBay fake VW flip key near the door, sure that would buy you enough time in all the commotion to get the Polis round as they fumble about thinking the battery has conked out on the remote.
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^^^That might just work...
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Hang a blank eBay fake VW flip key near the door, sure that would buy you enough time in all the commotion to get the Polis round as they fumble about thinking the battery has conked out on the remote.
Like that idea. Need to add that to my 'mod' list :smiley: