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Title: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 06, 2013, 05:44:03 pm
After four and a quarter happy years with my Scirocco I decided the time was right for a change. The GT86 caught my eye and I was offered a very good p/x and then very good deal so I went for it.

Picked it up a week ago - couple of not great pics below but hoping to get some better ones once Russ at Midlands Car Care has had it:-

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy35%2FDeacon666%2F20130329_111014.jpg&hash=1904b5cc6e8242c4062ff84d21748d239512950a)

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Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: TANNER on April 06, 2013, 05:50:13 pm
Very nice mate! From Wolvo Toyota?
I think these look really nice on the road, any plans for it?!
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: jimojameso on April 06, 2013, 05:51:57 pm
Very nice mate!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 06, 2013, 05:59:06 pm
Very nice mate! From Wolvo Toyota?
I think these look really nice on the road, any plans for it?!

Thanks!  :happy2:

It was from Wolves Toyota yes.

Getting another set of wheels as I like to run a winter and summer set. Possibly lowered after that but quite enjoying it stock at the moment to be honest.

Very nice mate!!  :happy2:

Thanks!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: TANNER on April 06, 2013, 06:15:43 pm
Good call, look forward to seeing more of this! I will look out for you around Wolverhampton too.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: xjay1337 on April 06, 2013, 06:17:34 pm
They are nice but a supercharger to take it to around 240-250 makes it so, so much better.

I saw one in a deep pearlesecent grey the other day, it was lowered on some Rota's or some other sort of JAP wheel.. looked pretty funky.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: camfollower on April 06, 2013, 06:36:01 pm
I like an awful lot about these cars, but they do need some FI - especially after a Stage 2 TFSI.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Hurdy on April 06, 2013, 06:45:13 pm
They look awesome, but n/a? Noooooo!
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Saintsteve on April 06, 2013, 07:09:52 pm
They look awesome, but n/a? Noooooo!

Agree'd.. Torque and boost for me.. Just needs more then 200bhp to make that more appealing
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: tony_danza on April 06, 2013, 08:02:09 pm
A scathingly brilliant purchase.

Forget about more power, those that "get" these cars know it doesn't need it.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: xjay1337 on April 06, 2013, 08:09:16 pm
I get it, it's about the driving pleasure, for which it delivers, but when a Corsa is faster than you in a straight line, something needs to be done
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 06, 2013, 08:12:06 pm
Obviously I've only had it for a week so still running it in and keeping below 4k rpm but it hasn't struck me that it needs more power - it's just not that sort of car when you're driving it. Seems to make even the most mundane journey induce a big grin!

However, I have seen some turbo'd americans ones pushing out about 450hp which must be immense. Although I wonder if as much fun?
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Hurdy on April 06, 2013, 08:12:21 pm
A scathingly brilliant purchase.

Forget about more power, those that "get" these cars know it doesn't need it.  :happy2:

I "get" the car Mike and for those who like their tail end loose it is full of win.  :happy2:

Personally I'd like it more with FI more power and better traction around corners and in the wet and in the cold and in the snow and ice :wink:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: rf860 on April 06, 2013, 08:12:45 pm
Only a Vxr would be which is turbo. Although, I do agree, turbo would make what sounds like a good car great.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 06, 2013, 08:13:00 pm
This car is full of WIN
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: xjay1337 on April 06, 2013, 08:17:13 pm
Only a Vxr would be which is turbo. Although, I do agree, turbo would make what sounds like a good car great.

You can dress it up how you like, it's still a Corsa.  :grin: :grin:
As far as NA engines go, Honda has a 240bhp from a 2.0 in the S2000 which has legendary mechanical reliability.. I just think they got to 200 and thought "that'll do..." , that's all.  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: tony_danza on April 06, 2013, 08:22:50 pm
A scathingly brilliant purchase.

Forget about more power, those that "get" these cars know it doesn't need it.  :happy2:

I "get" the car Mike and for those who like their tail end loose it is full of win.  :happy2:

Personally I'd like it more with FI more power and better traction around corners and in the wet and in the cold and in the snow and ice :wink:

Ahh, I didn't quite mean it like that.

It has perfect power:grip, so you can drive it ten-tenths laughing like an absolute goon and barely even need to break the speed limit. It harks back to the 205 GTI etc era, where things were HUGE fun without being rocketship fast.

I'd love one as a toy, as mine's a bit of a risk on the road given you squeeze it in 3rd and it'll be doing 110 in the blink of an eye - that's a lot of driving ban for some fun  :sad1:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: rich83 on April 06, 2013, 08:23:57 pm
Theres no way of hiding the fact that 200bhp is gonna seem a bit flat if youre used to ~300bhp and 300ftlbs...even if it does handle really well.

These need JAPin' up a bit in my opinion... they looks a bit vanilla otherwise.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Hurdy on April 06, 2013, 08:30:36 pm
It will always split opinion. One of my workmates has one in metallic white with black stripes down the side and over the top. His missis works for Toyota so he got a great deal on it. They look superb and remind me a little of the old Nissan 240Z but updated. I'm sure Subaru will bring out an STI version at some point and then it will make people think twice.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: tony_danza on April 06, 2013, 08:38:39 pm
Yup, like anything the first versions will be 'cooking' and then they'll bring out various specials with even more lunacy.

Dale's got a couple of modded BRZ's at the Ring, 220hp, lightened, Ohlins etc etc etc... I'm looking forward to a go in one.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rent4ring.de%2Fen%2F%2Fassets%2Fgallery%2F6%2F165.jpg&hash=d12b2bd3996fe0202de19e619686e568b2ebf5ec)
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: rich83 on April 06, 2013, 08:41:58 pm
^^ thats more like it!  Needs a bit of sillyness....
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 06, 2013, 08:52:50 pm
This ones pretty much my ideal:-

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Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: wigit on April 06, 2013, 09:33:56 pm
looking forward to seeing this in the metal in a few weeks Deacon when we meet up for our leisurely trip through the Cotswolds, make sure its run in by then due to the boost monkeys  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 08, 2013, 12:14:12 am
Had my car detailed today by Russ at Midlands Car Care. Few pictures below:-

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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy35%2FDeacon666%2FUntitled9.jpg&hash=d4d727bba5aeea982b7c1eb97a27dd9a371002eb)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy35%2FDeacon666%2FUntitled4.jpg&hash=222dfa8bef7a561d0ee5607e3396ede703f9a9e4)

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Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Rachael on April 08, 2013, 01:40:27 am
like the look of this very much! I want one for sunny weekends  :smiley:

Might have to make a visit to midland car care after seeing this.

is that burntree island tesco by any chance?
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 08, 2013, 09:44:20 am
like the look of this very much! I want one for sunny weekends  :smiley:

Might have to make a visit to midland car care after seeing this.

is that burntree island tesco by any chance?

It's Walsall. Are you a local then?

Russ looked after my scirocco and both my parents cars as well as my gt86 now - really can't fault his work!
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Rachael on April 08, 2013, 11:22:45 am
ahhh good old walsall.

yer fairly, stourbridge  :happy2:

looks like ill be taking it there then!
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: xjay1337 on April 08, 2013, 11:53:27 am
Gonna go to Toyota I think at the weekend and try to blag a test drive...  :confused:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: MightyMullet on April 08, 2013, 12:10:15 pm
I love these, look cool inside and out, comfy and a great driving position. Havent driven one but i hear its pretty much the most fun you can have on four wheels. Looking forward to seeing where you go with this  :party:

I don't get why they couldn't have made it the most fun and fast though? Without a doubt  they will release faster ones, a STI version of the BRX has been announced and there is loads of turbo kits available also. But to be fair they do already look fast!

Get some rota grids on her, lowered and she'll be looking purdy!
 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 08, 2013, 01:30:33 pm
Gonna go to Toyota I think at the weekend and try to blag a test drive...  :confused:

Could prove expensive, lol!  :grin:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 08, 2013, 01:36:04 pm
I love these, look cool inside and out, comfy and a great driving position. Havent driven one but i hear its pretty much the most fun you can have on four wheels. Looking forward to seeing where you go with this  :party:

I don't get why they couldn't have made it the most fun and fast though? Without a doubt  they will release faster ones, a STI version of the BRX has been announced and there is loads of turbo kits available also. But to be fair they do already look fast!

Get some rota grids on her, lowered and she'll be looking purdy!
 :popcornsoda:

Think I've got my wheel plans sorted - want to keep it lightweight and I've found some with a slightly lower offset in the stock size which come in at 6.75kg each.

Lowering I'm looking into but I don't want to ruin the fantastic set up so this is going to require careful research.

In terms of speed, a number of the US magazines have timed stock ones to 60 in around 6.2 seconds so they're not exactly slow - what I think a lot of us miss is the big chunk of torque we've got used to from diesels or charged engines.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: MightyMullet on April 08, 2013, 01:45:13 pm
I love these, look cool inside and out, comfy and a great driving position. Havent driven one but i hear its pretty much the most fun you can have on four wheels. Looking forward to seeing where you go with this  :party:

I don't get why they couldn't have made it the most fun and fast though? Without a doubt  they will release faster ones, a STI version of the BRX has been announced and there is loads of turbo kits available also. But to be fair they do already look fast!

Get some rota grids on her, lowered and she'll be looking purdy!
 :popcornsoda:

Think I've got my wheel plans sorted - want to keep it lightweight and I've found some with a slightly lower offset in the stock size which come in at 6.75kg each.

Lowering I'm looking into but I don't want to ruin the fantastic set up so this is going to require careful research.

In terms of speed, a number of the US magazines have timed stock ones to 60 in around 6.2 seconds so they're not exactly slow - what I think a lot of us miss is the big chunk of torque we've got used to from diesels or charged engines.

Sounds great mate, and yeah that sounds quick and a lot quicker than the press release. Ill be here watching anyway  :smiley:   :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: SteveS on April 09, 2013, 06:50:43 pm
I love the look of these cars and have done some research. I would have bought one, but the power... not matter how FUN it is, is just too low.
They look great in the flesh..

If they release a faster model with a slightly better interior then it could be a real contender.. or even if they release any good turbo\SC kits.. but that will rack the price up too much im sure..
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: rich83 on April 09, 2013, 06:57:46 pm
I love the look of these cars and have done some research. I would have bought one, but the power... not matter how FUN it is, is just too low.
They look great in the flesh..

If they release a faster model with a slightly better interior then it could be a real contender.. or even if they release any good turbo\SC kits.. but that will rack the price up too much im sure..

Youre pretty non plus'd about your stage 2+..... youd hate 200bhp N/A
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: SteveS on April 09, 2013, 07:28:55 pm
 :P
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: bonelorry on April 09, 2013, 07:51:26 pm
Supposed to be a great drivers car these and there are not too many manufacturers making those types of car these days!

Really like these alot, Front engined, Rear wheel drive, N/A, Totally usable without going bonkers.

I have owned two Honda Integra Type R's and loved them both very much, So much fun. I can imagine your GT86 is also.

Hope it treats you well  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: thegreatricardo on April 14, 2013, 07:12:43 pm
Seen a few of these around, they look very nice :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: jhtrophy on April 14, 2013, 07:27:57 pm
Thumbs up from me, we all get giddy about numbers these days when quite frankly unless your a tool you never use it, It takes a real enthusiast to buy one of these, old school performance motoring, I bet it's fantastic fun  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: phoenix on April 14, 2013, 07:42:35 pm
I get the fun factor I really do, but for an everyday car I'd prefer lots of torque, grip and go.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: gobbleplease on April 14, 2013, 09:07:39 pm
They are a nice looking car  :happy2:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 14, 2013, 09:44:12 pm
I get the fun factor I really do, but for an everyday car I'd prefer lots of torque, grip and go.

It's a fair point. The '86 definitely requires a lot more 'driving' and care than my scirocco did.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: wigit on April 14, 2013, 09:46:19 pm
Looking forward to seeing you in this next week so we can raise a cuppa to Chris  :drinking:
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on April 14, 2013, 09:50:38 pm
Looking forward to seeing you in this next week so we can raise a cuppa to Chris  :drinking:

Me too fella. Such sad news.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on November 02, 2013, 10:30:34 am
Haven't been on the forum for a while and know a few people were interested so thought I'd give a few updates.

Settled on my wheels. I went for these:-

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They are stock size (17x7") but 8mm lower offset and a useful 2kg a wheel lighter. I kept the stock tyres as wanted to keep the cars character close to stock (for now).

Picture just after they were fitted below:-

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I realise they wont be to most people's taste as due to the design with the spokes not running to the edge of the wheel they look smaller than 17's.

Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on November 02, 2013, 10:40:46 am
Next up was sorting the exhaust and a drop in air filter. I went with a Cobra cat-back non-resonated system as part of a group by on the owners forum. It may be a bit loud for my tastes though so I'm considering having the resonated section fitted. Leaving it for a while though to settle down and then I'll decide. For the air filter I went with a HKS panel filter.

Pics below (excuse the state of the car though!):-

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Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on November 02, 2013, 10:49:06 am
Finally (for now) I had it lowered. I went to AST suspension and had a set of their lowering springs fitted. I went with a 25mm drop as it is my daily driver and I live in speed bump central so decided against the 35mm. The 35mm also have a greater need for various alignment products to be fitted too. Decided to go with the springs from AST as they are the closest to stock rate and I didn't want to make the ride much firmer than it already was. They are also pretty much the only offering which have different spring rates for the '86 and BRZ.

Picture below just after fitting so I would expect them to settle a little more over the coming weeks:-

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy35%2FDeacon666%2F20131031_153637_Hagrid_Film.jpg&hash=53b2be7e88cbbb1ae4cb2b54ef1fcce6dffb059a)

Again, please excuse the state of the car!
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: john a on November 04, 2013, 11:45:45 am
Looking very nice, whole lot of like for this.
Title: Re: Toyota GT86
Post by: Deacon on November 04, 2013, 02:26:31 pm
Looking very nice, whole lot of like for this.

Thank you  :happy2: