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Title: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Welshman Adam on April 30, 2013, 09:33:26 am
Morning all,

Driving to work this morning and I managed to accidentally over rev the engine for a split second by changing from 4th to 3rd, rather than 5th…  Rev counter shot round to about 7,500 rpm (ish, I was looking at the road before hearing the revs rapidly increase making me look at the clock so it could have peaked higher).  I hadn’t fully released the clutch, so stuck the pedal right back down again. 

Everything felt fine afterwards, drove as normal for the remainder of the commute, but I’m a little worried that I may have caused some damage.  Can anyone put my mind at rest?  Please?? 

Felt like a right tool afterwards and actually said “sorry” to the car…   :confused:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: dokez on April 30, 2013, 09:35:21 am
It be fine. If you had damaged the car, you would of known about it by now.

Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: numec on April 30, 2013, 09:36:43 am
its gona be fine.. :happy2:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Scottymon on April 30, 2013, 09:42:30 am
What's that about 95/100mph indicated at 7.5k?

Probably more damaging to the gearbox than the engine... Did it hit the limiter?

Wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: john87 on April 30, 2013, 09:48:55 am
Your revs would have went beyond the limiter, however as already mentioned, if you'd done any serious damage (i.e. snapped a conrod) you would have known about it by now  :happy2:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: ConorF on April 30, 2013, 10:02:12 am
If there was serious damage caused the car wouldnt have made it to work  :happy2:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Welshman Adam on April 30, 2013, 10:04:24 am
Thanks all, that's what I hoped.  It was a horrible feeling for a moment!

And I'm not quoting any speeds, but that Mini Cooper S shouldn't have provoked me...   :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Top Cat on April 30, 2013, 10:42:39 am
I don want to panic you but if you have damaged it ( not saying you have ) then it wont show up straight away. It happens a lot with Exiges on track days because the gear selection is pants on them. It is called buzzing the engine and can take weeks sometimes months before the engine shows signs of damage. Again it depends on how long the revs shot up for, with Exiges a tiny quick over rev is normally ok basically it is just the luck of the draw. Can you get a scan with VCDS and see what revs you reached.  :happy2:
With these engines not revving to high you should be fine, just wanted to point out that the damage wont show up straight away as mentioned.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Scrubadub on April 30, 2013, 11:23:01 am
Surely the limiter would cut in?
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: john87 on April 30, 2013, 12:03:17 pm
The limiter isn't mechanical; therefore if you select too low a gear for the road speed, then you are forcing the engine to spin faster than the limiter would allow... therefore putting moving parts under more stress than what they were designed to handle. Obviously there is a factor of safety...
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: rich83 on April 30, 2013, 12:06:03 pm
Surely the limiter would cut in?

Correct...  but the limiter only limits by stopping fuelling, it wont stop the engine spinning up and eating itself.
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Cupra R on April 30, 2013, 12:08:17 pm
If you have managed to over-rev it enough, there will be a fault code stored.

Clear it. I'm sure it'll be fine.  :wink:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Welshman Adam on April 30, 2013, 04:14:58 pm
Cheers all.  Appreciated. 

Will ask about the error code on Friday.
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: danishmkvgti on April 30, 2013, 05:35:48 pm
When i was at Donington in 2011 for at track day a friend over revved his 500bhp Cupra and it lost the valvelifters and wouldn't run. He knew imideatly that it was bad so you shouldn't have that issue  :smiley:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Tamiyoman on April 30, 2013, 06:29:41 pm
Did exactly the same thing in my Mk2 GTI 8v Campaign, lost 2 valves and engine needed rebuilding, oops, same situ was provoked by an Escort RS Turbo  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: Hedge on April 30, 2013, 08:27:52 pm
If you've done it good and proper you will have one of these stored.

000537 - Maximum Engine Speed Exceeded: Engine Warranty VOID! :-)
               P0219 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Mileage: 66095 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:54:02

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 7265 /min
                    Load: 9.4 %
                    Speed: 221.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 90.0°C
                    Temperature: 33.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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The part in bold is from the nice folk in Ross Tech.  :wink:
Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: jimk04 on April 30, 2013, 08:38:23 pm
Think the limiter is 7200?

FOr some reason when doing some logs in mine, I gunned it to the limiter, but it never came! I saw well over 7200 so though best change gear!

Mine logged that engine Warranty thing and showed me similar to yours...7250 or something, but no issues at all.

Title: Re: Accidental over revving incident...
Post by: G40will on April 30, 2013, 08:47:26 pm
Think the limiter is 7200?

FOr some reason when doing some logs in mine, I gunned it to the limiter, but it never came! I saw well over 7200 so though best change gear!

Mine logged that engine Warranty thing and showed me similar to yours...7250 or something, but no issues at all.



Could that code be cleared or because of its nature would it be hard stored on the ecu?