MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: GTI-Ross on April 30, 2013, 07:13:19 pm
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What kind of figures would i be looking at on a stage 1 MK6 GTI?
Anyone had it done?
PS. why is the MK6 forum so dead.....no one is ever on there... :confused:
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We ain't got as much money as you :grin:
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Around about 250bhp IIRC :happy2:
Try one of the other golf gti forums - loads of topics on it there
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Around about 270bhp IIRC :happy2:
Try one of the other golf gti forums - loads of topics on it there
270BHP from Stage 1? !!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:
And what forum are good.....
Still wonna stick around on here.....its been the best and most helpful forum ive ever been on :happy2:
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May actually be more like 250bhp :ashamed:
Quick google search revealed this: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122589.0
Most of us on here are on one or two forums :grin:
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Revo Stage 1 about 270bhp, and stage 2 a shade under 300bhp.
They respond well and the map transforms the car, love my stage 2 GTi :happy2:
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Stage 1 250 horses and 345 torques. :innocent:
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We see 270-275bhp and 320-330ftlb from stage 1. DSG is the way forward as stock clutches are a weak point.
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We see 270-275bhp and 320-330ftlb from stage 1. DSG is the way forward as stock clutches are a weak point.
Sounds good, but there is no way im going back to DSG. Not having another one break and to be honest, i just got board of it. What can you expect to get in a manual on standard clutch.
Also, what is the options in regards to upgrading the clutch in the MK6?
Thanks
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We see 270-275bhp and 320-330ftlb from stage 1. DSG is the way forward as stock clutches are a weak point.
Sounds good, but there is no way im going back to DSG. Not having another one break and to be honest, i just got board of it. What can you expect to get in a manual on standard clutch.
Also, what is the options in regards to upgrading the clutch in the MK6?
Thanks
Same options as a clutch on a mk5 :grin:
Despite what people on the forum say about modern DSG being trouble free, there's still loads of failures of new DSG units which is what put me off one :sad1:
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We see 270-275bhp and 320-330ftlb from stage 1. DSG is the way forward as stock clutches are a weak point.
Sounds good, but there is no way im going back to DSG. Not having another one break and to be honest, i just got board of it. What can you expect to get in a manual on standard clutch.
Also, what is the options in regards to upgrading the clutch in the MK6?
Thanks
Same options as a clutch on a mk5 :grin:
Despite what people on the forum say about modern DSG being trouble free, there's still loads of failures of new DSG units which is what put me off one :sad1:
Even excluding the failure of the DSG units, Ive tried it for 6 months, and its just not for me.....I really miss stick shifting and been engaged all the time. I know everyone is different
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Don't care how fast dsg is it always takes something away from the driving experience :driver:
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Stage1 on the EA888 TSI is awesome, the torque is great. As they say 270bhp and just over 300 torques - mid range 4th gear pull for example is wow.
So much better than a Stage1 on the mk5 GTI engine.
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Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars? Golf R / Ed35 etc.
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Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars? Golf R / Ed35 etc.
Because they hadnt worked out how to make it work with a K04 turbo. Revo managed it a while back. . .
Not sure if the new Audi S3 is a K04 TSI lump?
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It does - well its called the same but sounds like its quite different.
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You got your Mk6 GTI Ross?
:worthless:
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Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars? Golf R / Ed35 etc.
Because they hadnt worked out how to make it work with a K04 turbo. Revo managed it a while back. . .
Not sure if the new Audi S3 is a K04 TSI lump?
TFSI: http://www.audi.co.uk/new-cars/a3/s3/2-0-tfsi-engine.html
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You got your Mk6 GTI Ross?
:worthless:
lol, no not yet, but deposit is down :happy2: and its an absolute beaut !!! - for the money.......Pics coming soon
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^^^^ excellent, nice one! :happy2:
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Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..
Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods. The torque makes it a very quick car :)
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Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..
Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods. The torque makes it a very quick car :)
What fuel?
EDIT - Also the Octavia TSI engine is listed as 200 PS and not 210 PS...may still map the same though.
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Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..
Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods. The torque makes it a very quick car :)
was yours a manual?...or DSG....I ve heard the standard clutch on MK6 is the main sticking point in regards to BHP and Torque.
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My previous car with REVO had 260 bhp on the rollers and 299 lb ft. It was an animal to drive, great fun but had traction issues.
I've since had the pleasure of time in a Bluefinned mk6 GTI which was less of an animal to drive but less wheelspin too...
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Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..
Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods. The torque makes it a very quick car :)
What fuel?
EDIT - Also the Octavia TSI engine is listed as 200 PS and not 210 PS...may still map the same though.
Mine was 215 stock.
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Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars? Golf R / Ed35 etc.
Because they hadnt worked out how to make it work with a K04 turbo. Revo managed it a while back. . .
Not sure if the new Audi S3 is a K04 TSI lump?
I'm pretty sure "hadn't worked out" had nothing to do with it.
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Dug this out for you lot today, a stock car (was a 200tsi) made 212bhp and overlayed it with a stage 1 graph with 95ron and stage 1 graph with 99ron.
Torque gains with 95ron were 65ftlb and 86ftlb with 99ron.
The reason for the wavy curve on the 99ron is that we struggled for grip which caused wheel spin and loss of power lower down, did get some better runs but couldn't find them on our dyno database. Clearly shows the advantage of decent fuel, especially when the map takes the higher octane into account (saw an extra 3 degrees of advance over entire rpm range over what we get with 95ron fuel)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=572906549396291&set=a.280037018683247.69566.280034348683514&type=1&theater
At 5500rpm you can see where the ECU pulls out ign advance and kills of the gain in curve.
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Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars? Golf R / Ed35 etc.
Because they hadnt worked out how to make it work with a K04 turbo. Revo managed it a while back. . .
Not sure if the new Audi S3 is a K04 TSI lump?
I'm pretty sure "hadn't worked out" had nothing to do with it.
The reason VW gave for using the EA113 (TFSI) in the Golf R & Scirocco R was "the older unit was more tuneable" - that says to me they were struggling to get 260+bhp out of the TSI. Obviously with a K04 on it would have p1ssed 260bhp so does make you wonder. . . :laugh:
Audi call all their engines TFSI, when actually a lot of the time it's the same TSI engine as in the golf. They never adopted the TSI name when VW did
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Dug this out for you lot today, a stock car (was a 200tsi) made 212bhp and overlayed it with a stage 1 graph with 95ron and stage 1 graph with 99ron.
Torque gains with 95ron were 65ftlb and 86ftlb with 99ron.
The reason for the wavy curve on the 99ron is that we struggled for grip which caused wheel spin and loss of power lower down, did get some better runs but couldn't find them on our dyno database. Clearly shows the advantage of decent fuel, especially when the map takes the higher octane into account (saw an extra 3 degrees of advance over entire rpm range over what we get with 95ron fuel)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=572906549396291&set=a.280037018683247.69566.280034348683514&type=1&theater
At 5500rpm you can see where the ECU pulls out ign advance and kills of the gain in curve.
Good graphic of difference between the normal and super unleaded :happy2:
Suprised you havent put a Sedox sticker over that monitor brand name by now Dave :wink:
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Will be done on Tuesday :wink: