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Title: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: sideshowfred on May 15, 2013, 06:48:51 pm
Basically i'm finding myself getting bored of the golf and fancy a completely different style of car. I've always had a thing for VX220's and looking at all the facts and figures it's only about £20 more on insurance and tax and stuff to run. Was just wondering if anyone has had any experience with one?

It'd be my daily vehicle and would be the 2.2 engine.

Or thoughts on similar cars that are about the same money so £7k ish

cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Tortaruga on May 15, 2013, 07:11:24 pm
My mate has an 08 Astra and it's a mess. Everything rattles and the engine sounds like it's about to give up the ghost at any time.
The overall impression is of a very low quality product.

The 220 would be a blast though.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: sideshowfred on May 15, 2013, 07:15:10 pm
I know the build quality and comfort levels will be low to non existent. But as i'm a single bloke with no reason not to have a silly car for a daily it makes sense. Also I hardly ever see any about which appeals to me
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: jhtrophy on May 15, 2013, 07:34:41 pm
friend of mine had one new, sold after a week due to bad back, quite tall mind, fantastic fun car but for 7k i would get an s2000 for a daily.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Scottymon on May 15, 2013, 08:39:06 pm
Your brave to consider a VX220 as a daily driver - I'd opt for something that you don't have to crawl out of.
I like the S2k suggestion; or perhaps a 3.0 Z4. :happy2:
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Post by: dokez on May 15, 2013, 08:41:51 pm
Love em!!!
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Post by: Markyed30 on May 15, 2013, 09:20:38 pm
Always liked them aswell but the 2.0t is the one to have.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 15, 2013, 09:28:02 pm
The 220Turbo is immense but haters will hate.

 Its essentially an Elise (it was designed by lotus iirc) but it has more power thnan the elise
EVO rated the handling and engine as better than the BMW Z4.

And 0-60 in 4 seconds when stock.....nothing more to add!!! :party:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM5XSDuU1MA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM5XSDuU1MA)

Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: tony_danza on May 15, 2013, 11:11:55 pm
They're about as far removed from a Vauxhall of that era as you could possibly get, which is a good thing.

Only appreciating in value, great fun, little more lively than an Elise (so be careful), and no K-series engine to worry about grenading. What's not to like?

Buy one.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: wigit on May 15, 2013, 11:14:47 pm
Pitty vauxhall didn't call it the Opel Speedster over here, massively overlooked
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: tony_danza on May 15, 2013, 11:21:44 pm
Funny how it instantly seems much cooler as an Opel Speedster. Snag the badges of eBay.de and job's a good'un!

I didn't realise these were so cheap either.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: sparky on May 15, 2013, 11:41:59 pm
Sold my first MK 5 GTI back in 09 and bought a Lotus europa 2.0T with factory 225 map  :grin:, which is basically VX220 turbo. I was in the same situation as yourself didn't need something sensible as a daily and thought I would have no problems with it on a day to day basis, it was immense fun and handled unbelievably, but I only lasted five months before the novelty wore off.

It was O.K when you were in the mood but most of the time it was noisy and not that comfortable and I found my self missing the golfs build quality, effortless performance and creature comforts, hence after going through a couple of other cars since and including some other vag metal I'm back in MK5  ED 30 :happy2:
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: sideshowfred on May 16, 2013, 08:27:35 am
Cheers for the replys guys, they're very useful. I did consider the s2000 but insurance is £200 more than the golf or VX. Unfortunately the turbo is out of my price range so it would have to be the 2.2.

Just been looking at videos of how to get into one which will be useful. I suppose it becomes second nature once you get the technique.

Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Jaywoo-GTI on May 16, 2013, 09:56:21 am
A mate at my work has got one as a daily driver, All i can say is the ain't built for it, After enduring it for nearly 3 years through all weather he has now finally succumb to getting another car for winter.

Getting in and out of them is art-form (Especially if you want to keep any dignity)
Snow in these is a no go (not enough weight over the front wheels)
Heaters are very poor, so clearing the windows on a winter morning is fun
Visibility becomes a very large issue in the winter due to dark night (even so much that my mate had built a full perspex roof for better light in the winter)
They all leak water, with softtop or hardtop.
And any kind of work other than a service involves taking the rear clamshell off so add a extra 2 hours labour to the bill.

But that all said there are awesome fun to drive (just a bit tedious if you have to use everyday)
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: berg on May 16, 2013, 11:45:44 am
Cheers for the replys guys, they're very useful. I did consider the s2000 but insurance is £200 more than the golf or VX. Unfortunately the turbo is out of my price range so it would have to be the 2.2.

Just been looking at videos of how to get into one which will be useful. I suppose it becomes second nature once you get the technique.




how tall are you? i got into one of these at the motor show once and had to crawl out on my hands and knees  :rolleye:
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: TrickGTI on May 16, 2013, 02:19:32 pm
My brother had a 2.2 and his friend had one to. They both crashed  :signLOL: and its not a pretty sight when fibreglass hits a solid wall. It wasnt the fastest thing in the world but it handled brilliant. I would recommend if you can find one that hasn't be crashed, taking to a company down south who does all the geometry on them ( not sure what they are called now as this was 5 years ago ) but it transformed the car with how it drove.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: rich83 on May 16, 2013, 02:27:54 pm
Crap to get in and out of... I couldnt live with one as an only car i dont think
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Scottymon on May 16, 2013, 03:27:33 pm
Anyone owned a 3.0L Z4? 
Having suggested one on the first page has me looking at them now... can get them for £5-£6k (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201305066617750/sort/default/usedcars/price-to/6000/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/transmission/manual/model/z4/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/radius/1500/postcode/le71yh?logcode=p) with not too many miles - nice summer motor.
Seems like all the big engine motors have really dropped in price, with most ppl worried about fuel consumption figures.

Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Top Cat on May 16, 2013, 03:45:27 pm
It depends how much you like driving. If you get into your car just for a drive on a regular basis then then it might suit. If you use it as a daily it will become a chore. You have to love them and what they are about to cope with them day to day.
I nearly bought one many moons ago when they first came out as I loved the look of them.
If you get one make sure you give it full respect when pushing on or it will bite.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Jamie3184 on May 16, 2013, 06:12:49 pm
Anyone owned a 3.0L Z4? 
Having suggested one on the first page has me looking at them now... can get them for £5-£6k (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201305066617750/sort/default/usedcars/price-to/6000/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/transmission/manual/model/z4/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/radius/1500/postcode/le71yh?logcode=p) with not too many miles - nice summer motor.
Seems like all the big engine motors have really dropped in price, with most ppl worried about fuel consumption figures.



I look at the Z4 before i bought my ED30, defianately a great performance car option.

The thing i found that was off putting was the convertable suffers major problems with the roof motor. The motor sits in the water channels and isn't a water tight sealed unit, this obviously leads to it degrading and a new replacement fitted is at a cost of anywhere between £1000-£1500.

I would therefore recommend you get the coupe version of the car.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: sideshowfred on May 16, 2013, 06:21:31 pm
More helpful posts, thanks all  :notworthy:

I'm not exactly sure of my height but i know i'm just under 6ft. Have spend the day thinking of other cars that i'd be happy with. S2k's are on the list now as the buying price would make the insurance cost hurt less.

I then had the thought of a Porsche 944 but not sure how reliable it'd be as an everyday car as obviously they're getting on a bit now.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Raffe on May 16, 2013, 08:45:53 pm
Not sure if you can get an 's' model in your price range but I would be looking at Boxsters, awesome chassis :happy2:
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: tony_danza on May 16, 2013, 08:50:30 pm
Another great call....

Z4 is a great car, but budget suspension and non-runflats. OE is bollocks.
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: sideshowfred on May 16, 2013, 10:16:27 pm
Not sure if you can get an 's' model in your price range but I would be looking at Boxsters, awesome chassis :happy2:

Funnily enough i've just been looking at these. And yes, the 's' does come into my price range. Insurance is quite a lot though. What are peoples thoughts on the 2.7 version? Insurance isn't far off the gti's and it's still got 220bhp to play with
Title: Re: VX220's - your thoughts?
Post by: Raffe on May 17, 2013, 06:45:26 am
A friend of mine had one, an entry level 2.7 and I have to admit until I had driven it i had focused on the relatively low power.

But that's not the full story, get behind the wheel and its every bit a real Porsche and the drive and involvement is spectacular, have one on the radar for when we change the Golf in a few years.
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Post by: monte on May 17, 2013, 10:46:09 pm
There were a couple of em at the 2013 Time Attack at Cadwell Park.

Very Sexy motors for the money!

This was one of them....

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2Fnull-117.jpg&hash=e75f6a072a870bd9d68c50aee4af1e550a5facc4)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2Fnull-118.jpg&hash=bf7aaa0aff6cbde582501ddc7135b4a1b2990d23)
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Post by: TrickGTI on May 18, 2013, 08:37:42 am
Love that... The rear spoiler looks far to big even though its for use and not show.