MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: fliprio on May 16, 2013, 12:10:37 am

Title: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: fliprio on May 16, 2013, 12:10:37 am
When people use the DSG launch control function, do they find that it smokes the front tyres?  Mine will dial up 3k RPM, but there is loads of wheel spin.  Its running decent tyres, but it’s much better if I only allow it to go to 2.5k
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: rich83 on May 16, 2013, 12:25:58 am
What tyres?

What BHP?

More info needed please.
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: fliprio on May 16, 2013, 12:31:48 am
What tyres?

What BHP?

More info needed please.

I am assuming stock power - although the car does feel quick compared with my 170 BHP 205 Gti track car (which weighs naff all)

Tyres are continental Conti Sport Contacts
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: vag12 on May 16, 2013, 12:54:03 am
Same problem need more advice for launching, but have 330bhp at the front wheels launch control is a no for me completely
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: fliprio on May 16, 2013, 12:11:55 pm
Same problem need more advice for launching, but have 330bhp at the front wheels launch control is a no for me completely

Well I know I dont have that much power :-)

has anyone else got any experience of standard power cars doing this?
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: RENNTAG on May 16, 2013, 02:24:45 pm
I have always found that 2.5K rpm is a better launch. I think its a pretty simple launch control system so does require some control from the driver to make it work for a quick launch. But depends on grip levels. Maybe on a hot day with good tyres and a good surface such as on a drag strip you might be able to use 3K rpm. Last time i was at santa pod i was increasing the revs each run.
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: Top Cat on May 16, 2013, 03:48:54 pm
Defo less revs required, and short shift into second.  It takes a bit of practise. :driver:
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: vag12 on May 16, 2013, 06:45:25 pm
Defo less revs required, and short shift into second.  It takes a bit of practise. :driver:

This is with ESP turned off but is this safe in the bends?
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: RENNTAG on May 16, 2013, 07:21:27 pm
Defo less revs required, and short shift into second.  It takes a bit of practise. :driver:

This is with ESP turned off but is this safe in the bends?

Only if you have poor car control. If you know where your limits and the cars limits are no problem driving without ESP. If you are really wanting to push the car its better with ESP off other wise it will just fight you.
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: Top Cat on May 16, 2013, 07:49:08 pm
Defo less revs required, and short shift into second.  It takes a bit of practise. :driver:

This is with ESP turned off but is this safe in the bends?

It is a couple of years since I had my Golf now but I don't think you can Engage launch control with ESP on.
As for ESP on the bends I never drove fast enough on the roads for it to get in the way. If you ever go on track do a session or two with ESP on until you get comfortable then switch it off, the difference is amazing! You won't believe how easier it is to drive with it off.   :happy2:

My current car has adjustable traction control and I have the opposite problem, I can't drive fast enough to bring it in unless it is wet. I think I managed to hear it working once at Rockingham on the final tight turn going into the bowl section.  :driver:
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: Saintsteve on May 16, 2013, 07:52:32 pm
Modulate your right foot, you do have to turn off ESP or the launch control won't engage.

I found 2500rpm and as TC has said, short shift to 2nd before 5000rpm to maximise traction.
Title: Re: Lots of wheel spin with DSG launch control
Post by: fliprio on May 16, 2013, 09:35:54 pm
Modulate your right foot, you do have to turn off ESP or the launch control won't engage.

I found 2500rpm and as TC has said, short shift to 2nd before 5000rpm to maximise traction.

Cool, sounds like I just need to practice with it some more :-)