I'd simply tell your fiancee to drive it properly until the engine is up to temperature or not drive it at all! :confused: :confused:
I'd simply tell your fiancee to drive it properly until the engine is up to temperature or not drive it at all! :confused: :confused:
You dont have a fiancee do you? You know how i know this?
I'd simply tell your fiancee to drive it properly until the engine is up to temperature or not drive it at all! :confused: :confused:
You dont have a fiancee do you? You know how i know this?
I believe that i got my APR map they stated that you were restricted until the oil was up to temp. :confused:
Not sure if it's true or not :smiley:
Please excuse my ignorance but what is 'valet mode' and how do you set it?A Valet is a guy that drives the car from the front entrance of posh places to the parking lot and returns it when you are ready to leave, as many of us wouldn't like that they give it the full beans to and from, the car can be limited in performance to app. 80km/h :happy2:
A Valet is a guy that drives the car from the front entrance of posh places to the parking lot and returns it when you are ready to leave, as many of us wouldn't like that they give it the full beans to and from, the car can be limited in performance to app. 80km/h :happy2:
A Valet is a guy that drives the car from the front entrance of posh places to the parking lot and returns it when you are ready to leave, as many of us wouldn't like that they give it the full beans to and from, the car can be limited in performance to app. 80km/h :happy2:
Tell me more - how? And can I call it wife mode?
All our high power maps for 1.8t and tfsi limit the power when engine temp/ oil if cold. Car feels flat as a fart for first 6-7mins of driving from cold.
I've been told you should wait for the oil temp to reach 76 before going over 3000rpm - this normally takes 9-10 minutes as I always do it - is this not correct??
If it isn't, please give me the correct info.
To be honest I don't care whether a valet gives my car full beans as long as the oil temp is up there.
I can't understand how valet mode would work, unless it didn't allow you to rev over the 3K threshold?? :confused:
314bhp out of a stage 1 ed30 map is hardly retarded :congrats:
Reminds me of a big fall out I had with ex mrs years ago had a chaved up brand new Clio 1.2 16v and she took it on the long drag in front of my bedroom window at time hitting limiter in 3rd then dropping it in to 2nd can laugh now lol !!
In fact.... Supper-Chips do "Retard" mapping... but Im not sure its on purpose.... :star:
314bhp out of a stage 1 ed30 map is hardly retarded :congrats:
Reminds me of a big fall out I had with ex mrs years ago had a chaved up brand new Clio 1.2 16v and she took it on the long drag in front of my bedroom window at time hitting limiter in 3rd then dropping it in to 2nd can laugh now lol !!
314bhp??.. superchips stage 1?? Not in anyones lifetime mate...
314bhp out of a stage 1 ed30 map is hardly retarded :congrats:
Reminds me of a big fall out I had with ex mrs years ago had a chaved up brand new Clio 1.2 16v and she took it on the long drag in front of my bedroom window at time hitting limiter in 3rd then dropping it in to 2nd can laugh now lol !!
314bhp??.. superchips stage 1?? Not in anyones lifetime mate...
I did. @ Supperchips. :laugh:
314bhp out of a stage 1 ed30 map is hardly retarded :congrats:
Reminds me of a big fall out I had with ex mrs years ago had a chaved up brand new Clio 1.2 16v and she took it on the long drag in front of my bedroom window at time hitting limiter in 3rd then dropping it in to 2nd can laugh now lol !!
314bhp??.. superchips stage 1?? Not in anyones lifetime mate...
I did. @ Supperchips. :laugh:
Didn't you have "land of make believe" playing on the stereo though? :evilgrin:
sh*t tune like iv said 20 times cars made expected figures someone from this forum was there ill post 2nd rr results up hopefully there 270 bho like use would expect :popcornsoda:
sh*t tune like iv said 20 times cars made expected figures someone from this forum was there ill post 2nd rr results up hopefully there 270 bho like use would expect :popcornsoda:
sh*t tune like iv said 20 times cars made expected figures someone from this forum was there ill post 2nd rr results up hopefully there 270 bho like use would expect :popcornsoda:
You will learn several things on this forum:
1) dynodynamics dyno's are the only figures that people will take as remotely accurate (JKM's being the MOST).
2) dyno figures should always be taken with a pinch of salt
3) Hedge will inevitably post a picture of a sad cat. :grin:
Have you seen Saint Steves review of superchips vs R-Tech? The superchips map was asking a ridiculous amount from the turbo and inevitably putting the hardware under undue stress :surprised:
He got a smoother map with a lot less asked of the hardware.
See here, enough to put me off Superchips: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,65077.0.html
Anyone who knows cars wouldn't touch a Superchips or any other flash map with a bargepole! :evilgrin:
Anyone who knows cars wouldn't touch a Superchips or any other flash map with a bargepole! :evilgrin:
Anyone who knows cars wouldn't touch a Superchips or any other flash map with a bargepole! :evilgrin:
Wigit, Hedge and the other Revo fanboy's won't like that :wink:
So does that make me a fanboy?:grin: :grin:
Anyone who knows cars wouldn't touch a Superchips or any other flash map with a bargepole! :evilgrin:
Wigit, Hedge and the other Revo fanboy's won't like that :wink:
Anyone who knows cars wouldn't touch a Superchips or any other flash map with a bargepole! :evilgrin:
But it is better than a Revo map...
R-tech are hardly an emerging brand in the UK, they are very well known within the VAG community. Just as much so as Revo, to the "enthusiasts" at least.
Nick at Rtech is very very very knowledgeable. Not saying that the chief mappers at Revo aren't but you don't get them mapping your car, you get a map they wrote on ANOTHER car put onto yours, which may be slightly different.
But it is better than a Revo map...
On what basis though? You must have first hand experience of having both?R-tech are hardly an emerging brand in the UK, they are very well known within the VAG community. Just as much so as Revo, to the "enthusiasts" at least.
They might well be well known in the VAG scene but that is predominantly with the 1.8T which is vastly different to the 2.0TFSI and they are new with the 2.0TFSI in comparison. Hence all this very recent R&D done on James K04 and posting about how they cant wait to start working on a BT 2.0TFSI setup. I asked about getting my twincharger mapped there and they werent interested in developing software for a couple more years. So, say they decide next month that they are going to start 1.4TSI R&D, does the fact that they are well renowned in the VAG scene make up for the 3-4 years of extra R&D and tuning experience thes e "flash tuners" have on the 1.4TSI....no it doesnt.Nick at Rtech is very very very knowledgeable. Not saying that the chief mappers at Revo aren't but you don't get them mapping your car, you get a map they wrote on ANOTHER car put onto yours, which may be slightly different.
That he might be, but also bear in mind, he doesn't write software from the ground up on every custom map he does as he himself has even pointed this out in several posts on here. He has developed a solid base map(developed on ANOTHER car) which he will upload and then customize from there. This is no different really to a REVO maps being applied to the car and the likes of JKM, PDT etc then adjusting the settings and logs to suit the car and mods.
I think someone is telling porkies here. I do not believe for one minute that R-Tech map EVERY single car differently. :chicken:
They will do EXACTLY what Revo do. I.E take the car, apply map, drive the car and alter the boost timing and fuelling to suit the car so it's running safe.
I seriously doubt Nick/R-Tech has the time to do what you are saying. Maybe on a select few cars they have sat on a Dyno and done what you say. But I think it would be a handful at most.
What you are saying they are doing would take a couple of days worth of mapping, data logging and fine tuning. From what I gather from people's posts they get the car back after a couple of hours at most. Hardly a "Custom" map. I've still yet to have someone convince me that a car can be set up on the rolling road better than the actual road. If that was the case then no Motorsport team or car manufacturer would do on road testing or drive the ring etc. it would all be done on a Dyno.
Each to there own and all that but I think some common sense needs to be applied.
But it is better than a Revo map...
On what basis though? You must have first hand experience of having both?
R-tech are hardly an emerging brand in the UK, they are very well known within the VAG community. Just as much so as Revo, to the "enthusiasts" at least.
They might well be well known in the VAG scene but that is predominantly with the 1.8T which is vastly different to the 2.0TFSI and they are new with the 2.0TFSI in comparison. Hence all this very recent R&D done on James K04 and posting about how they cant wait to start working on a BT 2.0TFSI setup. I asked about getting my twincharger mapped there and they werent interested in developing software for a couple more years. So, say they decide next month that they are going to start 1.4TSI R&D, does the fact that they are well renowned in the VAG scene make up for the 3-4 years of extra R&D and tuning experience thes e "flash tuners" have on the 1.4TSI....no it doesnt.
Nick at Rtech is very very very knowledgeable. Not saying that the chief mappers at Revo aren't but you don't get them mapping your car, you get a map they wrote on ANOTHER car put onto yours, which may be slightly different.
That he might be, but also bear in mind, he doesn't write software from the ground up on every custom map he does as he himself has even pointed this out in several posts on here. He has developed a solid base map(developed on ANOTHER car) which he will upload and then customize from there. This is no different really to a REVO maps being applied to the car and the likes of JKM, PDT etc then adjusting the settings and logs to suit the car and mods.
In that case, i guess we all bow down to your infinite experience of the 2.0TFSI :confused:But it is better than a Revo map...
On what basis though? You must have first hand experience of having both?
No. I've seen dyno charts. I've had my TFSI like 3 weeks. Prior to that I had a diesel which originally was breathed on by Rtech, and they were the only company after spending 20 minutes researching, who were worth visiting.
For a tuner to turn away work for a valid reason, that takes integrity.
And at the end of the day this is a predominantly 2.0 TFSI forum - not a twincharger set up.. Besides, the 1.4's are so flimsy they generally break a supercharger before you even get a chance to map them unfortunately. :confused: :confused:
I think someone is telling porkies here. I do not believe for one minute that R-Tech map EVERY single car differently. :chicken:
They will do EXACTLY what Revo do. I.E take the car, apply map, drive the car and alter the boost timing and fuelling to suit the car so it's running safe.
I seriously doubt Nick/R-Tech has the time to do what you are saying. Maybe on a select few cars they have sat on a Dyno and done what you say. But I think it would be a handful at most.
What you are saying they are doing would take a couple of days worth of mapping, data logging and fine tuning. From what I gather from people's posts they get the car back after a couple of hours at most. Hardly a "Custom" map. I've still yet to have someone convince me that a car can be set up on the rolling road better than the actual road. If that was the case then no Motorsport team or car manufacturer would do on road testing or drive the ring etc. it would all be done on a Dyno.
Each to there own and all that but I think some common sense needs to be applied.
Custom as in fine tuned to the specific hardware of the car (repeating myself again :sad1:) not adjusting boost, timing and fuel across the whole rev range by a single setting. . .
I was there for 2.5hrs when my GTI was getting the stage 1 treatment. Nick was forever tweaking things and dynoing again until it was right. depends on what extent of tune your going for, as said above a base map is applied then fine tuned til it's perfect. You tweak all the factors where needed until everything is sweet.
James's was on the dyno for 2 days solid and ED30Dom's will be on for a similar amount of time.
Nick always shows you what he is doing for example when he's adjusting the actuator to change the spool of the turbo it's all there on the PC in front of you
Take it you haven't read Saint Steves review, that sums the whole process up brilliantly.
For a tuner to turn away work for a valid reason, that takes integrity.
And at the end of the day this is a predominantly 2.0 TFSI forum - not a twincharger set up.. Besides, the 1.4's are so flimsy they generally break a supercharger before you even get a chance to map them unfortunately. :confused: :confused:
err no they dont, thats utter rubbish, not on the 180ps version anyway. Ive never heard or read of a single supercharger failure on either SCN, VAGOC or briskoda. Mines happily soaking up stage 3 power.
FWIW, i might have a 1.4TSI now, but before i had a 2.0TFSI. From what ive read of your replies, this is acting like the stereo typical fanboy. You have no experience of having either REVO or RTECH on a 2.0TFSI yet you seem to be able to say one is crap and one is awesome.
also just to add, ive never had REVO on my car either, i chose other companies for all my cars, but I have driven many REVO 2.0TFSI from stage 1 to stage 3 and i know its not a generic setup. They ahvent lead the market for this many years with a generic product!!
What im trying to point out, is that you cant come out with those sort of statements without any technical back up or personal experience. Looking at a dyno sheet doesnt tell you how a remap is actually performing with its power delivery. On another note, which tuners are the fastest on the 30-130 or the 1/4 mile...theres proof there
For a tuner to turn away work for a valid reason, that takes integrity.
And at the end of the day this is a predominantly 2.0 TFSI forum - not a twincharger set up.. Besides, the 1.4's are so flimsy they generally break a supercharger before you even get a chance to map them unfortunately. :confused: :confused:
err no they dont, thats utter rubbish, not on the 180ps version anyway. Ive never heard or read of a single supercharger failure on either SCN, VAGOC or briskoda. Mines happily soaking up stage 3 power.
FWIW, i might have a 1.4TSI now, but before i had a 2.0TFSI. From what ive read of your replies, this is acting like the stereo typical fanboy. You have no experience of having either REVO or RTECH on a 2.0TFSI yet you seem to be able to say one is crap and one is awesome.
also just to add, ive never had REVO on my car either, i chose other companies for all my cars, but I have driven many REVO 2.0TFSI from stage 1 to stage 3 and i know its not a generic setup. They ahvent lead the market for this many years with a generic product!!
What im trying to point out, is that you cant come out with those sort of statements without any technical back up or personal experience. Looking at a dyno sheet doesnt tell you how a remap is actually performing with its power delivery. On another note, which tuners are the fastest on the 30-130 or the 1/4 mile...theres proof there
Fanboy? Lol mate jog on. I read reviews from owners who have had Revo,Bluefin,Superchips etc, and then had an R-tech map, and various other peoples input, and then make a balanced decision on what I have seen.
Fanboy is blindly supporting them.
I support R-tech because of the quality of work, the willingness to give advice and the overall professionalism of the service they provide.
Plus I have dealy with them before.
I have not seen 30-130 but who really cares? Apart from Plonkas. You can make any car fast flat out, what about nice smooth power that builds with good mid range?
As for quarter miles as I found out at Santa Pod at Springfest, times can vary wildly depending on launch, wind, gearchanges, etc. It's an idea but arguing over a few tenths here and there doesn't really prove anything unless on the same track at the same time with both drivers getting good launches and gear changes.
A dyno chart is plenty enough to see how the power is delivered. As that's what its purpose is!
When you see a huge torque spike at 3000rpm followed by flat line, to the redline, that's not a good map.
It's all about "under the graph" area, increasing power and torque over the WHOLE rev-range not just mapping it with a huge spike in the power to make it feel super-duper fast and fry your clutch.
I would have a Revo map on my car BUT
I wouldn't pay their extortionate prices. They are more expensive than R-techs custom maps and not tailored to your style of driving or exact car/exact mods.
I would only get one as part of the occasional £150 deal that comes up. And then after a few months I would still take it to R-tech.
The TIV mapping is just off the chain.
As said above, we are all going to argue if we carry on so I've said my piece and will leave it at that.
:grin: all part of the service
That's what I mean when I say Nick shows you what he is doing. May suggest a lot of you Revo boys are "experts" of their products. . .
Wonder how many of the 700ish setting combinations are actually used. For example, b1,t9,f9 would that even work?? Can't see that being optimum on any setup. Recon it's about 8 commonly used settings. Do you use different combinations for different exhausts for example? Like Milltek or BCS? Can't see the limited adjustability being able to cater for different flow characteristics of an exhaust. . . Anyway, neither of us see experts so the whole debate may be flawed :laugh:
Anyway, I agree with the caption.
Come on Hedge throw us a "thanks" for this one :party:
Does anyone know if its possible to map the car (revo/apr or other) so that it is impossible to drive the car hard when the oil isn't fully warmed up?
Reason is my fiancé is a bit of a girl racer and I'm pretty sure she gives the car full bore down a local dual carriage way on the way to work when she (occasionally and now rarely) borrows my car!
Cheers
Does anyone know if its possible to map the car (revo/apr or other) so that it is impossible to drive the car hard when the oil isn't fully warmed up?
Reason is my fiancé is a bit of a girl racer and I'm pretty sure she gives the car full bore down a local dual carriage way on the way to work when she (occasionally and now rarely) borrows my car!
Cheers
Four pages later, it would appear the answer was "no".
All our high power maps for 1.8t and tfsi limit the power when engine temp/ oil if cold. Car feels flat as a fart for first 6-7mins of driving from cold.
Does anyone know if its possible to map the car (revo/apr or other) so that it is impossible to drive the car hard when the oil isn't fully warmed up?Four-and-a-half pages on, it appears the answer is "yes".
Reason is my fiancé is a bit of a girl racer and I'm pretty sure she gives the car full bore down a local dual carriage way on the way to work when she (occasionally and now rarely) borrows my car!
Cheers