MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Track Day Technical => Topic started by: Msportman on June 02, 2013, 10:33:48 am
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RS4 's ?
Alcons?
A P's?
Tarox
I want OE feel on pedal but substantial track set up?
Any pointers fora kit where replacement discs are not hugely expensive?
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The "old" RS4 2 piston brakekit fits and should give a good pedal fell along with great braking. Only other brake setup that fits to my knowledge is the Tarox 10 pots :happy2:
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Anything will fit with big enough spacers :happy2:
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Anything will fit with big enough spacers :happy2:
:signLOL:
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Mine needed 3mm to clear an 18" Monza, not sure if a Pescara is the same/more/less generous?
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pescaras are crap for clearance...
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Just replied in the 996TT review thread
I always used to carry a set of B5 RS4 brakes for those with show wheels or restrictively rimmage, might even have some somewhere take a look in Top Cats Golf build thread or PM him for a review
They're 360mm and I don't think there is a B5 Rs4 running the stock 360BHP, they're uber tuneable and they quickly get upgraded to the B7 brakes because they're plug and play.
Still 2k KGs and 360BHP stoppers though, good pedal evidently too, loads of pads available
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Just replied in the 996TT review thread
I always used to carry a set of B5 RS4 brakes for those with show wheels or restrictively rimmage, might even have some somewhere take a look in Top Cats Golf build thread or PM him for a review
They're 360mm and I don't think there is a B5 Rs4 running the stock 360BHP, they're uber tuneable and they quickly get upgraded to the B7 brakes because they're plug and play.
Still 2k KGs and 360BHP stoppers though, good pedal evidently too, loads of pads available
I thought you were of that opinion DaveB, but wouldn't quote you. The set you helped me get for a mate here in Denmark is still on his carm that is now a showcar. I just saw it in it's newest incarnation at DHB (Denmarks Fastest Carshow)
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Wider fenders and total redone cabin, it's special but we all have our own taste :smiley:
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Are they workx wheels?
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Are they workx wheels?
Yes, the hub caps said so why? :smiley:
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They're the same ones Top Cat had and we tried everything to get something upgraded to fit.
The B5 kit worked and believe it not fitted behind 17" TD1.2s which TC ran with track rubber not bad for 360mm discs
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Anyone tried Stop Tech brakes ?
Worried about spaces on the front. Had rears with no issues but worried about spaces .KW Csports with geo set up and anti lift kit set up.
Wonder if Tarox kit is up to the job?
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Stoptech are some of the bulkiest ones. You will need a big spacer to fit them.
Most BBK have sketches that you can use to see clearance, posted on their websites.
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Stop tech.
Brembo castings under license.
Just one other thing to bear in mind with skinny Calipers is that you can't get a quart out of a pint pot. Skinny Calipers have small pistons, small pistons need skinny pads, skinny pads get changed twice as often.
The TTRS uses a fairly skinny Caliper and when I first saw a set of new OEM pads for t I thought I'd been sold part worns.....same as on the EVO
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Stop tech.
Brembo castings under license.
Just one other thing to bear in mind with skinny Calipers is that you can't get a quart out of a pint pot. Skinny Calipers have small pistons, small pistons need skinny pads, skinny pads get changed twice as often.
The TTRS uses a fairly skinny Caliper and when I first saw a set of new OEM pads for t I thought I'd been sold part worns.....same as on the EVO
Tarox 10 pot I assume is the 330mm kit??
I see there is a bigger 345mm kit.....shame the anodised caliper discolours especially in red....I may ring Tarox regarding this. My old kit was in their normal colour. They worked very well.....bit noisy but I expected that. VWR kit looks nice but will need spacers.
Tarox discs and bells were expensive to replace....approx £1k back 5-7 yeras ago on 6 pot kit!!
Lovely pedal feel and great modulation for track.
Last set up I had used Clubsports and spacers on the rear.....none on front as I was concerned they interfere with handling. Will ring VWR on that.
Just ordered Kenwood DNX DAB and KW's on the way.
Just wondering whether I should put W.A.L.K or Superpro bushes in??
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Smallish spacers will be fine on the fronts as you have adjustable top mounts with the Clubsports. For a track/road set-up you would have about 3 degrees of camber which will get you peskis and a spacer well tucked under out of the way.
As you mentioned the Tarox will stop you on a penny but they are very expensive for disc's. I would go for the Alcon set up! as an allround compromise it meets most of your requirements best, Unless DaveB can cobble you some magic from somewhere. :happy2:
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A chap called GTI_James had Stoptech on his Ed30. :happy2:
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i have them also,very good kit ,but they cant fit without a 12mm spacer in front
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The ap 4 pots will fit behind the oem pescaras with 3mm - 4mm clearance, obviously r32 brakes will fit aswell.
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Such a kit is quoted on the web at almost 2000GBP :(
Any other choices for a good brake upgrade kit that will fit behind Pescara without spacers? Alcon, Willwood, Movit...?
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Such a kit is quoted on the web at almost 2000GBP :(
Any other choices for a good brake upgrade kit that will fit behind Pescara without spacers? Alcon, Willwood, Movit...?
No, you need Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 or equivalent to fit calipers with pistons on the outside of the disc except the Tarox 10 pot solution :happy2:
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Unfortunately still in the 2k GBP area :). And most likely you sold yours so no 2nd hand alternative :)
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Unfortunately still in the 2k GBP area :). And most likely you sold yours so no 2nd hand alternative :)
My Tarox is gone for the amount of 470£ :stupid:
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Very good price but now it's too late for that.
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Smallish spacers will be fine on the fronts as you have adjustable top mounts with the Clubsports. For a track/road set-up you would have about 3 degrees of camber which will get you peskis and a spacer well tucked under out of the way.
As you mentioned the Tarox will stop you on a penny but they are very expensive for disc's. I would go for the Alcon set up! as an allround compromise it meets most of your requirements best, Unless DaveB can cobble you some magic from somewhere. :happy2:
Got a brand new AP Racing 330mm kit with CP5200 calipers - Thonk its CP5200-156 for the GTI uses the evergreen CP3215-D50 pad its basically the same caliper in terms of piston sizes and design as the CP5040 Pro 5000 race caliper I think its 1,5mm wider from the centreline to the front face.
Retail is £1638 plus VAT with a 8 week lead time, looking for £1480 all in delivered. Andy (Wigit) had the last one and gave some good feedback following a track day he did
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Swap the Pescaras for the same style but ET44 BBS VZ033s. Much better clearence.
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With et 44 will they rub?
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Usually ET44/45 won't rub, but it depends on your choice of tyres.
Do the fender screw mod and 95 % of 225s will never rub, while all
235 semi-slicks (which tend to be wider) will certainly rub even with
the mentioned screw removed. Nevertheless 8x18 ET45 is a highly,
if not the most popular size.