MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: ollie288 on August 09, 2009, 06:28:58 pm
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Hi I have looked around the forum but cannot seem to find a guide on these two subjects! If anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated!
I would like to install Highline on my golf a diy/prices/where to get parts etc would be excellent!
Also I have brought a mk6 gti steering wheel and would like a DIY on how to remove the old one and install this one!
Thanks :drinking:
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I think there has been some previous discussion on this. The dash insert will be quite expensive. Do you have the original 4 digit security code for your current dash insert? If not then you'll either need a tool to extract it or it'll be a dealer job to make the swap. If you want to do it yourself you'll need VCDS.
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Hi im a real noob when it comes to this. What is VCDS? Also what is the tool? Is it possible? What cost roughly? £100, £200?
If you could point me to that thread that would be great!
Thanks mate :drinking:
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VCDS is a third party tool which is about as close to the VAS dealer tool as you'll get. Google will be your friend.
The tool to extract the security code will be software and an OBD compliant cable - not VCDS.
The dash insert is probably going to be circa £300 maybe more.
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Thanks :drinking: has anyone done this on here?
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Anyone know about the steering wheel?
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Not so much about a MK6 wheel but MK5 wheel change is pretty common.
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http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3707.0
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I've done both mate but I had to get the dealers to code the dash as it was a late 2008 car. Even if I could have done the work myself, I would have still wanted Vw to do it and have the work documented on their system to rule out any foul play. It cost about 1 hrs labour so worth it IMHO
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I payed around £500 for my Leon instrument cluster with the large MFD in it.
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I paid the roughly the same, £453.
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Isn't there more to fitting highline rather than replacing the instrument cluster? ...Thought I saw a thread where you have to dive into all the wires running thru out the car and connect them all up!??
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it depends which Central electrics control module you have.
mine luckly supported highline, as it was a GT and sports quite a lot of the higher end parts
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How would I know if I have this central electrics that support it and would I have all the benefits of highline as if it was done in the factory...??
October 2007 (57 Reg Gti).
Cheers.
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have you got VCDS aka Vag com?
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Unfortunetly not, my dealer doesn't do after market mods-not even cruise. I think the nearest could be JKM performance in Portsmouth or tuningwerks in Croydon!..are they the people who could do this?
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no mate, you'd need to go to a dealer, or some shady character that can do mileage correction.
im sure the dealers wouldnt be impressed if the clocks had been changed without going to them. it leaves the door open for dodgy mileage input, thats why i went to the dealer
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Ah I see (of course!), so what is it I would need the dealer to actually do then?
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supply the clock, fit it (two screws) and then code it and make sure all the immobiliser works
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that easy? what about finding out if mine supports that central electrics control module first?
Just need all th info, as this is somin I will probly get done if possible)
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Dealers cannot correct mileage.
Anyone (who knows what they are doing) with VCDS (VAG-COM) can install it providing you have the two SKC's (Secret Key Codes). If you don't then you need someone with the correct tools to extract the codes or a dealer who will use VAS to go online and read them.
I've done a few myself, both using VCDS and VAS the dealer tool.
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Found this link supplied but VC..looks intense as it shows the back seats being removed, but hazard a guess its for an early model Gti!?
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?&id=3604801&postid=44436951#44436951
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Good DiY but much more in depth than you need to worry about.
VAG-CAN Commander is the tool used to extract the SKC's if you don't have them. It can also modify the mileage.
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So its just a case of swaping the clocks over at the main dealer ( just not mine) anyone know of a deler that will do this locally to Sussex?
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any should be capable of doing it mate, its not a massively hard procedure at all.
the hard part (for us) is getting SKCs out of new clocks
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Ok, cheers guys, may ring round a few dealers when I have time and see what they will say. I got a no last time from my dealer as they thought it could void some of my warranty!
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The procedure for them is a simple dash insert replacement. All carreid out with Guided Functions on VAS.
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Whats the compass module that lives in the boot hatch for the highline bit?
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That's not for UK cars.
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no, and its not worth fitting either at all.
One, its a nightmare to fit.
Two, it will only serve to conflict with data on the system already
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Thats probly were I'm seeing it all as a nightmare, 1 guy going OTT as hes even playing with the horn! Just makes me think why more people haven't had this done!?
Plus it gets rid of a small scratch on the clock from previous owner.
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you ca physically swap a set of clocks in less than 30 seconds if you wanted mate, its just the coding side of things that complicates things
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Ok ta, I thought it was all cutting into canbus lines and all the impossible stuff!
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Willzie if you have a midline cluster then you have a part highline central electrics module most if not all GT/GTI will have the Midline/Highline.
Darren
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Interesting thread guys. I changed my lowline to midline succesfully a while back but was looking to get a second hand highline to upgrade once more. The research I have done suggests that Vag CAN Commander only retrieves SKC's from a cluster for up to 2006MY models. Is this still the case?
I occasionally see the highlines popping up on ebay but they are always for the newer vehicles (mine is 2004 model).
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Yep your right on that mate
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Yep your right on that mate
If you are replying to me, I barely posted and you responded. Remarkable :smiley:
So that's one thing to be wary of then. If you won't be able to retrieve the SKC (unless you're a main dealer) from a cluster from a 2007MY Golf onwards.
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Yep I was talking to you matey lol. And your right. It's a dealer only or some shady mileage correction specialist. It was a dealer for me so everything was documented on official vw job cards etc
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Yep I was talking to you matey lol. And your right. It's a dealer only or some shady mileage correction specialist. It was a dealer for me so everything was documented on official vw job cards etc
OK, thanks for the info'. Maybe that's the only way to go then, especially if one is fitting a 2007 onwards cluster! I will continue to search out a highline cluster from a 2004/2005 model and then it will be a lot more cost effective :happy2: Until them I am happy with my midline....at least I get to know the outside temperature, my old one never had that even!