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Title: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Bane on June 06, 2013, 11:41:26 am
Couldn't ask for a better manufactured and well put together car.
I think I might have to recommend the Jazz as a future alternative to the GTI. :smiley:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Mk5Dom on June 06, 2013, 11:42:43 am
Is this the start of your proposed forum war?
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Bane on June 06, 2013, 11:52:49 am
Is this the start of your proposed forum war?

I never intended to start a war....it's just my observation. :innocent:
Might have to go aand testdrive a Renualt Twizzy next. :star:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on June 06, 2013, 12:43:57 pm
Are you trying goad Batman in to a fight? :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: vRS Carl on June 06, 2013, 01:18:21 pm
Or Batdog?
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: xjay1337 on June 06, 2013, 02:00:59 pm
Batcat?
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: scopes on June 06, 2013, 02:22:44 pm
I like the front end of Hondas, they look relly well in my rear view mirror  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Bane on June 06, 2013, 03:57:21 pm
Bat who?

"I am not a man,more a tool...a means to and end.I will destroy this city and all it stands for."

Wait...maybe I paraphrased me old mucker Raz-Al-Ghul.That old bugger used to say sh*t that I never thought much about.Well,there you go...some stuff must have stuck!

Bane in a Twizzy....theres a thought. :surprised: :grin:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Horatio on June 06, 2013, 04:03:01 pm
Wake me up when the v-tec kicks....yo  :driver:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Degudodger on June 07, 2013, 10:03:04 am

Quote
Might have to go aand testdrive a Renualt Twizzy next. :star:

I see the same bird in a Twizzy every morning on the M3, normally between Basingstoke and Fleet and see certainly has balls of steel!


Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: edd666999 on June 07, 2013, 10:19:58 am
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.memegenerator.net%2Finstances%2F400x%2F36922202.jpg&hash=73bcd00a35dc1807960d87b2609181e2725e24f7)
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: ReeceH13 on June 07, 2013, 10:34:04 am
I like the front end of Hondas, they look relly well in my rear view mirror  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:

 :grin:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Kregiel on June 08, 2013, 06:03:00 am
Honda...

Isn't it lawn mover manufacturer??  :innocent:

Paul
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 08, 2013, 11:48:24 am
Honda do make the finest N/A engines. FACT.  :notworthy:

Interior quality isn't as great as VW and some of the lower spec cars are a little boring. You rarely hear of suspension bushes failing and other component problems like you do on this forum.

Overall they are better manufactured.

Looking forward to the new Civic Type-R in 2015. Knowing Honda they are taking so long to perfect it, rather than release something full of teething problems. Hope it has stronger DV's than the TFSI  :grin:

Rumour has it, it's a 1.6 turbo (probably with vtec as well  :evilgrin:)
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GTI5 on June 08, 2013, 12:17:45 pm
Let's wait and see how reliable a Honda Turbocharged engine is of the same class.

The 2.0 VTEC engine was canned because it can't meet Euro 5 regs, a lot of time for a car maker to be out of a particular market although I wouldn't like to say how important this particular market is for Honda.

Comparing a smaller NA engine (Jazz) to a 2.0 Turbocharged engine isn't the fairest comparison as it has inherent reliability advantages.

It's partly the price paid for having some of the latest engine technology on a road car.

I've been a passenger in a CTR FN2 and the interior seemed fine to me...it didn't rattle which is a good start but not as polished as the VAG group.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Baz300 on June 08, 2013, 01:14:10 pm
I love my Honda
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi760.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx242%2Fbaz300%2F9b95a346358cbe3d76dc1bb135ffc10e.jpg&hash=19d2992fb19948a3f54c2470100bcea347c2e2a2)

But I still wouldn't swap the golf for a civic
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: alexmccabe on June 08, 2013, 01:26:58 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night. TBH though I had him until my high 4th gear, bloody power drop off.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GTI5 on June 08, 2013, 02:34:42 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night. TBH though I had him until my high 4th gear, bloody power drop off.

Time for a remap  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Raffe on June 08, 2013, 03:14:26 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night.

No such thing :wink:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: benj1989 on June 08, 2013, 03:48:38 pm
Honda do make the finest N/A engines. FACT.  :notworthy:

Interior quality isn't as great as VW and some of the lower spec cars are a little boring. You rarely hear of suspension bushes failing and other component problems like you do on this forum.

Overall they are better manufactured.

Looking forward to the new Civic Type-R in 2015. Knowing Honda they are taking so long to perfect it, rather than release something full of teething problems. Hope it has stronger DV's than the TFSI  :grin:

Rumour has it, it's a 1.6 turbo (probably with vtec as well  :evilgrin:)
iv seen the pre release pictures looks great. they are making it to beat the megane sport that currently has the nuringburg ring record for hit hatches it is also a 1.6 turbo. It will hopefully be a road going track car lol think this could be my next car tbh. iv also had a Honda and loved it.
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Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: alexmccabe on June 08, 2013, 03:49:48 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night.

No such thing :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-92FlswT7DIU%2FTm2MjI67A_I%2FAAAAAAAAGHE%2Fr9xW42u2SB4%2Fs1600%2FHonda%2BCivic%2BCoupe%2BBlack1.jpg&hash=e0321f924dc028de126c71a2096fdacb1519bae8)

Google says otherwise. Sedan is probably what I meant.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Bane on June 08, 2013, 05:01:16 pm
 :confused:

Whoa,whoa,whoa....this thread is in danger of becoming a serious proper discussion.
Let's just maintain the status quo with Honda cars being shopping carts,Barrymobiles and dodgems for the elderly.

Except for the Jazz...any car manufacturer that calls a car aimed at the more senior parts of the population(really should have called it the Swing,but the connotations are too much) after a musical style that lends itself to a New Orleans funeral,has to be  full of Humour,right?

i like Honda.They've got a good business model and make almost everything that has an engine...apart from Helicopters.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 08, 2013, 06:10:30 pm
^^ I disagree though.

S2000, NSX, Generations of fantastic Type-R's (especially the JDM ones  :evilgrin:).

You can't ignore that. . .

It's like saying vw make fantastic rep-mobiles (passat, Jetta etc) and ignoring the Golf GTI  :confused:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Baz300 on June 08, 2013, 07:35:25 pm
But all jap cars have disgusting interiors and that's what puts me off them.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Raffe on June 08, 2013, 07:39:42 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night.

No such thing :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-92FlswT7DIU%2FTm2MjI67A_I%2FAAAAAAAAGHE%2Fr9xW42u2SB4%2Fs1600%2FHonda%2BCivic%2BCoupe%2BBlack1.jpg&hash=e0321f924dc028de126c71a2096fdacb1519bae8)

Google says otherwise. Sedan is probably what I meant.

That's not a type r, as said no such thing  :wink:

The Type-R Honda's from the mid 90's were some of the best drivers cars money could buy, whilst VW were making the MK3 Golf GTi which at best was average.

Unfortunately recent Hondas have gone back to being fugly and dull as ditch water, with the blue rinse brigade taking over ownership again, real shame.

Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 08, 2013, 08:34:46 pm
But all jap cars have disgusting interiors and that's what puts me off them.


The dash of the FN2 (2006-2009) type-R is awesome. Two teir with digital speedo, VTEC light and LED's that count you up to the red line / shift point  :drool:

It's seriously futuristic and a nice place to be.

See here: http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/attachments/inside-out/34547d1288495152-honda-civic-type-r-stuff-2007-honda-civic-type-r-interior-1280x9603.jpg

I'd hardly call that blue rinse brigade.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 08, 2013, 08:39:44 pm
Not as raw as the last civic type r I worked for Honda and had 2 of the last shape pre face lift and face lift and was going to buy the new one so took the demo car for the day and it was rubbish just not as good
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 08, 2013, 08:44:23 pm
Not as raw as the last civic type r I worked for Honda and had 2 of the last shape pre face lift and face lift and was going to buy the new one so took the demo car for the day and it was rubbish just not as good

I had a facelift in Grey and then a Championship white edition newer model(with LSD as standard) and that was a hoot to drive. CAR magazine got it round Bedford nearly as quickly as a Focus RS.  :surprised:

The older one was more raw but people like the creature comforts these days, Cruise, dual zone etc. The latest type-r is much more fun that a GTI IMHO but not quite as "polished".
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Jamie3184 on June 08, 2013, 08:47:07 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night.

No such thing :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-92FlswT7DIU%2FTm2MjI67A_I%2FAAAAAAAAGHE%2Fr9xW42u2SB4%2Fs1600%2FHonda%2BCivic%2BCoupe%2BBlack1.jpg&hash=e0321f924dc028de126c71a2096fdacb1519bae8)

Google says otherwise. Sedan is probably what I meant.

That's not a type r, as said no such thing  :wink:

The Type-R Honda's from the mid 90's were some of the best drivers cars money could buy, whilst VW were making the MK3 Golf GTi which at best was average.

Unfortunately recent Hondas have gone back to being fugly and dull as ditch water, with the blue rinse brigade taking over ownership again, real shame.



They did make a four door version of the Civic Type R in the FN2 guise though, maybe thats what Raffe is thinking of?
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: tony_danza on June 08, 2013, 09:30:26 pm
If it was a light gold coloured coupe, around the Manchester area, then I know who owns it and it has a 'charged Type R engine in it. Along with a fully working S2000 dash.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Raffe on June 08, 2013, 09:53:02 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night.

No such thing :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-92FlswT7DIU%2FTm2MjI67A_I%2FAAAAAAAAGHE%2Fr9xW42u2SB4%2Fs1600%2FHonda%2BCivic%2BCoupe%2BBlack1.jpg&hash=e0321f924dc028de126c71a2096fdacb1519bae8)

Google says otherwise. Sedan is probably what I meant.

That's not a type r, as said no such thing  :wink:

The Type-R Honda's from the mid 90's were some of the best drivers cars money could buy, whilst VW were making the MK3 Golf GTi which at best was average.

Unfortunately recent Hondas have gone back to being fugly and dull as ditch water, with the blue rinse brigade taking over ownership again, real shame.



They did make a four door version of the Civic Type R in the FN2 guise though, maybe thats what Raffe is thinking of?

I know about the FN2 saloon as a good mate has one which I have driven a few times  :happy2:

I'm being picky, but there really never was a Civic coupe ever made by Honda. I'm a big Honda fan and have owned a Civic SiRII, Integra Type-R (both DC2 & DC5) and a supercharged 30AE CTR and was part of the owners club for a number of years prior to its demise.

The MK5 Golf GTi turned me back on to VW as the MK3 & 4 were outclassed by many other manufacturers IMO.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Jamie3184 on June 08, 2013, 10:24:53 pm
I got beat by a Civic Coupe Type R last night.

No such thing :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-92FlswT7DIU%2FTm2MjI67A_I%2FAAAAAAAAGHE%2Fr9xW42u2SB4%2Fs1600%2FHonda%2BCivic%2BCoupe%2BBlack1.jpg&hash=e0321f924dc028de126c71a2096fdacb1519bae8)

Google says otherwise. Sedan is probably what I meant.

That's not a type r, as said no such thing  :wink:

The Type-R Honda's from the mid 90's were some of the best drivers cars money could buy, whilst VW were making the MK3 Golf GTi which at best was average.

Unfortunately recent Hondas have gone back to being fugly and dull as ditch water, with the blue rinse brigade taking over ownership again, real shame.



They did make a four door version of the Civic Type R in the FN2 guise though, maybe thats what Raffe is thinking of?

I know about the FN2 saloon as a good mate has one which I have driven a few times  :happy2:

I'm being picky, but there really never was a Civic coupe ever made by Honda. I'm a big Honda fan and have owned a Civic SiRII, Integra Type-R (both DC2 & DC5) and a supercharged 30AE CTR and was part of the owners club for a number of years prior to its demise.

The MK5 Golf GTi turned me back on to VW as the MK3 & 4 were outclassed by many other manufacturers IMO.

Sorry didn't mean you Raffe got the names mixed up from the quotes when i was writing my reply, met maybe thats what Alex was thinking of  :signLOL:

I know there was not civic coupe type r  :smiley:
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GTI5 on June 08, 2013, 11:10:33 pm
But all jap cars have disgusting interiors and that's what puts me off them.


The dash of the FN2 (2006-2009) type-R is awesome. Two teir with digital speedo, VTEC light and LED's that count you up to the red line / shift point  :drool:

It's seriously futuristic and a nice place to be.

See here: http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/attachments/inside-out/34547d1288495152-honda-civic-type-r-stuff-2007-honda-civic-type-r-interior-1280x9603.jpg

I'd hardly call that blue rinse brigade.


I must say that the dash design is quite unique and I was surprised when I saw it for the first time.

The seats held you in place and the driving position seemed lower.

I quite liked the 19 inch Rage wheels as well.
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 08, 2013, 11:16:58 pm
I test drove an FN2 Type R GT the other day and I really liked it.  Coming rom a forced induction car the engine feels flat unless you rev the nuts off of it, but interior, exterior, 8500rpm and the handling all put a big smile on my face, much more focussed than any VAG hatch IMO.  Would love one with the supercharger conversion.  A smidgeon over £3k puts it at 300whp.  add another grand to that and it'll be running 350whp and low 12s on the strip.

This makes me laugh though

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.tinypic.com%2F4hltt2r.gif&hash=a7a30647074c51adaf489b52cc23d7b210bf5fdc)
Title: Re: Aren't Honda's great?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 09, 2013, 04:43:20 pm
I test drove an FN2 Type R GT the other day and I really liked it.  Coming rom a forced induction car the engine feels flat unless you rev the nuts off of it, but interior, exterior, 8500rpm and the handling all put a big smile on my face, much more focussed than any VAG hatch IMO.  Would love one with the supercharger conversion.  A smidgeon over £3k puts it at 300whp.  add another grand to that and it'll be running 350whp and low 12s on the strip.

This makes me laugh though

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.tinypic.com%2F4hltt2r.gif&hash=a7a30647074c51adaf489b52cc23d7b210bf5fdc)

  :pomppomp: my thoughts exactly right there. I've been in a supercharged one, such a rush before the Vtec even kicks in

The championship white ones with the LSD are the ones to go for. I cannot stress how much better it is with an LSD. The one at Crewe Honda is pretty smart  :wink: